Then I had to do the passenger side:(. What a PITA that side is. The worst part was putting the heat shield back in. The pass. side took about 3 1/2 more hrs. Leo

For a minute there I was like...
:drop_mout



Did you leave the turbo in?

Chaser

It's all in the marketing:) Leo

It's all in the marketing:) Leo

Nice work...
Took my dad and I all day...did pull the fender/turbo out. That took a little bit...:)

I love you guys... you make me feel normal.

Unlike the Flatland Fireball, with his 2-hr turnaround for all 8. :)

I took the fender out, not the turbo. The turbo removed would have made a big difference. I was trying to remove as little as possible. Taking all weight off the wheel made fender removal easier. Leo

I love you guys... you make me feel normal.

Unlike the Flatland Fireball, with his 2-hr turnaround for all 8. :)
Jim: I think we should call his bluff and have him do a demonstration. We'll hold a lottery and Chris can change the winners injectors:D. Leo

Call BS all you want....I can (and have) done it in under 2 hours....I have tools and shortcuts that most folks don't....

I'm sure not calling BS on ya, Chris... I'm just in awe. My cuts have healed up from the last time I did it, and it took 8 hrs and 7 bandaids!

2 hours just isn't within the realm of possibility for this olde farte...

Call BS all you want....I can (and have) done it in under 2 hours....I have tools and shortcuts that most folks don't....
No offense was intended. I never doubted your claim, I was just pokin fun. Thats why the title read that way. Leo

I must come off as very brash....

I was not offended in the least....perhaps I should use the smileys more...

I must come off as very brash....

I was not offended in the least....perhaps I should use the smileys more...
Glad to hear it Chris. I've noticed in a lot off posts things get taken wrong so I guess the smilies are a good idea.:) Leo

Call BS all you want....I can (and have) done it in under 2 hours....I have tools and shortcuts that most folks don't....

Total BS

:)

That there is a bad case of DMS you got there, Teroma...

DMS = Delayed Smiley Syndrome

It took me about 4 months for my glow plugs. The first 7 took about an hour. It took me 4 months to get the courage up and limber enough to get the 8th one, you all know what one that is. :p:

My father in law has blown a headgasket.
We're soon pulling out the heads.
As soon as the heads will be out, I'm sure guys I'll can change the 8 injectors and glow plugs in less an hour :D :D

Hey no cheating!! :D:D:D

so what do mechanics charge to install these? i had no idea they would take so long. i dont like working on a car that long, especially if i dont feel like im making progress...

I can change them in about 30 minutes.

of course no one said anything about whether the engine is IN the truck or not...:)
2 hrs..damn that's good. I think it would be worth the airfare to get you here. Maybe when I was younger but now I have to think
about stuff too much. Then again I used to use my stomach as the tranny jack.

Call BS all you want....I can (and have) done it in under 2 hours....I have tools and shortcuts that most folks don't....

Hey Chris, you're killin' me - please share which tools and shortcuts!

Sincerely,

Rob :)

Mitchell time is 4.1 hrs all both sides turbo engine on the injectors. Time for glow plugs is 1,5 all turbo engine. Some redundant labor there i would imagine.

That there is a bad case of DMS you got there, Teroma...

DMS = Delayed Smiley Syndrome

Nobody else caught that, or did you all feel pity and decide to let it go?

Local reputable shop (whom installed the IP on my truck a while back, works like a charm) wanted $26 each for reman injectors, and $300 labor to install injectors. Making the grand total $508. I havnt let them do it, and may not(that deal heath is offering on his new bosch injectors is sounding awfully good. Just hope its still going on when i have money :D) , but i wanted to see what it would cost for the shop to do it.

Nobody else caught that, or did you all feel pity and decide to let it go?

DSS, DMS, small difference. :)

Thanks for taking pity on me. I must have had PMS on my mind when I was writing that post!

Hey Chris, you're killin' me - please share which tools and shortcuts!

Sincerely,

Rob :)

Chris, I have to change mine soon I would love to know what tools/techniques make it that much quicker.;)

I would say if I drive the truck long enough to change the injectors again it could possibly be done in a 3-4 hour window at my pace. Knowing what has to come off, staying away from all the "might as wells" and just jumping in with a good attitude I think I could knock it out in a few hours rather than a whole day. No bs'ing, no safety breaks, no trips to the parts store, it could be done. It really isn't that bad of a job folks, just jump in and do it.

Chris, I have to change mine soon I would love to know what tools/techniques make it that much quicker.;)

I'd like to know the short cuts as well. I'm doing mine tonight and as a total Newbie I figure 1.5 to about 3 ought to about do it...days that is.:o:

Yeah, what shortcuts? I got tools all over the place.

Shortcut #1 - the 'search' button...;)

very easily done by anyone in 3 hours. Should be no need to remove turbo or inner fender if you have the correct sockets. Heat shield removal is likely the hardest part cause they can get jammed in and rusted over time. First socket is and otc part #5060 and the other is an ac delco 1 3/16. These sockets both have 7/8 hex heads on them and the ac delco is a deeper one than the otc. With those 2 sockets and 7/8 gear wrench this is painfully simple job. The otc is 3/8 drive and ac delco is 1/2. You will use the ac on the 2 directly beside the turbo with the gear wrench. the rest are super simple. hope this helps

I'm ahead of schedule. I got the driver's side done in only 3.5 hours. Course I took out both fender wells so I could clean up with the new pressure washer my wife bought me this week (love that gal); pulled and replaced one injector twice as at one point I had one more copper ring than injectors.:o: Two of the injectors were trying to separate under the torque of removing the fuel lines so I had to figure a way to hold the top portion still while I loosened the lines (trip to store, failed trip, vise grips). Then I had to go all the way up to the solenoid rail and remove that bracket to get enough play in the lines so I could replace # 5 and 7; otherwise, I had the feeling like I was going to over stress them. Wimp, I know but better safe than sorry.
I should have the passenger side done this morning, now that I know more about what I'm doing. Then comes the OPS and Lift Pump....

I'd post pictures but the only thing different about my job and those already posted are the amount of scratches on my forearms from crawling around the engine bay trying to find dropped nuts and bolts.:D

Course I took out both fender wells so I could clean up with the new pressure washer my wife bought me this week (love that gal)

Don't be so happy just yet... mine did the same thing, and I felt the same way. Then it started...

... do you know how many things around the house and yard that can be washed with a pressure washer?

It might be a set-up... if you don't find yourself washing siding, windows, concrete, fences, decks, etc, then she really was just being nice to you.

PS - I even tried explaining to my wife that it was against the law to use a pressure washer on things that didn't have an engine. She told me she would bake me a cake with a file, and get back to washing the deck.

sigh.

Interesting thread,. too bad you,ve turned into a jaded curmudgeon chris,. when the flatland furball got crashed all the love disappeared,.not even a link posted,. love the search function it's like my wife,. doesn't understand what i want when i say what i think i want,.then she tells me what she thinks i want and i just give up,. kinda like the search function here,. it's all in the "right words",.. just like wives,.
jimmy better show the wife just how easy a pressure washer works,.
's what i do,. and yes i can cook better than her,.:D

nick
PS i call BS with no smilies,.

It might be a set-up...

"Might be a set-up?" I've been married 26 years and oh yeah, it's a set up. But now I don't have to rent one. Truthfully, she's wonderfully good about staying off my back about anything. The master bath has been a dirt floor for longer than I care to admit :o: but she didn't start complaining when I began this project on the truck. In fact, she went with me to get the tools I needed for the job. Knowing that labor charges would be three times the cost of a few tools, she's good with it. I buy her kitchen "tools" all the time to compensate. "Its all good."

Back on topic. I'm 2.5 hours into the right side and I'm wondering... what's with this @#$%^ heat shield and that 4th nut on the Turbo?:mad: I'm not looking forward to putting them back on I can tell you that. At least Chris' record is safe from me. I feel like Willie Coyote in a foot race with the roadrunner...no contest. At least the injector lines broke free with little or no fuss. I found the source of oil accumulation/leaking, at least on the driver's side. The oil return line's hose clamp isn't even remotely tightened to the engine. It is so loose it just slides up and down with gravity.

Oh well, "Breaks over, back on [my] head' before sweetness gets home with lunch. Gotta finish, then on to OPS and Lift Pump; then Pressure wash away the engine, re-assemble and hit the drive way. Next week it will be back to the bathroom.

Thanks for the encouragement all.

Interesting thread,. too bad you,ve turned into a jaded curmudgeon chris,. when the flatland furball got crashed all the love disappeared,.not even a link posted,. love the search function it's like my wife,. doesn't understand what i want when i say what i think i want,.then she tells me what she thinks i want and i just give up,. kinda like the search function here,. it's all in the "right words",.. just like wives,.
jimmy better show the wife just how easy a pressure washer works,.
's what i do,. and yes i can cook better than her,.:D

nick
PS i call BS with no smilies,.


curmudgeon.....ROFL...

I've been called a lot of things.....never a curmudgeon....:D

curmudgeon.....ROFL...

I've been called a lot of things.....never a curmudgeon....:D
Ok I DID a SEARCH and could not find what that means...:D

very easily done by anyone in 3 hours. Should be no need to remove turbo or inner fender if you have the correct sockets. Heat shield removal is likely the hardest part cause they can get jammed in and rusted over time. First socket is and otc part #5060 and the other is an ac delco 1 3/16. These sockets both have 7/8 hex heads on them and the ac delco is a deeper one than the otc. With those 2 sockets and 7/8 gear wrench this is painfully simple job. The otc is 3/8 drive and ac delco is 1/2. You will use the ac on the 2 directly beside the turbo with the gear wrench. the rest are super simple. hope this helps

Thanks for the tip. Just bought one. This seemed like a good deal 39.95 for the OTC.
If anybody else needs one it's Item#20212190453 on the big auction site.
He's got 4 left.:D

I found the source of oil accumulation/leaking, at least on the driver's side. The oil return line's hose clamp isn't even remotely tightened to the engine. It is so loose it just slides up and down with gravity.


Mine was worse... the clamp was done up, but the hose wasn't down over the tube leading to the engine... just butted-up to it.

That's now TWO I've heard of leaking there ... I bet mine had been like that right since the factory.

Grrr... freakin truck must have been built on a Hangover Monday.

Finished in only 12 hours and I didn't even have to pressure wash the house!:D
That was one job I won't do voluntarily again.:cussing:
Observations: Getting that turbo back in was a entertaining. Heat shield almost as much fun as the turbo. Checking grounds and such while in there already was a plus. Putting fender wells back in the dark isn't much fun.

I can't wait to find the OPS and replace it now. Should I wait for the bruises to heal first or just double tap them?

In all seriousness. I'm glad I did it myself but I know I wouldn't have even thought about trying it without all your shared posts, techniques, stickies etc.

And, oh by the way, my hat is off to those who can do this job in 2-5 hours and those that can do it with the fender wells AND the turbo...:bow:

Paul

Mine was worse... the clamp was done up, but the hose wasn't down over the tube leading to the engine... just butted-up to it.

That's now TWO I've heard of leaking there ... I bet mine had been like that right since the factory.

Grrr... freakin truck must have been built on a Hangover Monday.
Must have been ...MY 95 same thing. When I did my oil cooler I noticed the rubber tube on turbo return line was leaking and clamp very loose.

Attaboy, Paul... you make me feel like less of a 'Special Ed' kid.

I think our speed on this job is NORMAL, and guys that casually toss off lines like "2 hours, no problem" or "shouldn't be hard" are just mutants.

So there. :)

curmudgeon.....ROFL...

I've been called a lot of things.....never a curmudgeon....:D

Don't feel bad he called me a "skinflint" a couple of years ago. :)

Dave