I just got my banks installed by banks on monday. I am not to impresed with it. My level 3 adds more power and is nice but everything over that feels the same.


With no load in my bed and on level 6 i do not even break my tires free. What is up with that?
What are the rest of you finding with your lly banks?

Seat of the pants isn't always the best way to measure performance.

Dyno or track will tell you what it's really putting out.

I will tell you that if you are running 100rwhp or higher on stock tires, if you floor it from a stoplight, it should bust the tires loose as soon as it builds boost, usually going into second.

i installed banks with speed loader not very impressed at all !! my quad. 110 seems way better off the line. does anyone know if i can stack my quad with the banks??

hefty67,
I see you have the LB7. Are you sure you have version 2?
Robgmcman,
Do you have the speedloader upgrade?

I am not sure, is there a part # ? when i ordered it I just ordered it for 02 duramax.and yes i have the speed loader

hefty 67?
Did Your 110 Pull Your 5er Better Than Your Banks?

The last two digits should be "67" for version 2.

i just installed the banks and did not tow with it yet but the quadzilla pulled the 5er great in 50 and 70.when towing 90 or 110 the exhaust temp started to get way too hot for me.the 5er weighs around 12,500, also my six gun ends in 67..the speed loader ends in 96.

hefty67,
I see you have the LB7. Are you sure you have version 2?
Robgmcman,
Do you have the speedloader upgrade?
I have the LLY and i got the 6 gun bundle so i did get the speed loader. But it feels very weak. Inpressed with level3 but after that they all feel like level 3.

should be a(seat of the pants) gain between level six and level three, does your L E D flash green when you turn key to on position, also when I set mine up my 6-position switch was not aligned right and it felt almost like you are describing so check that out, watch your boost gauge and see if you build more boost under WOT between settings this is not always the best indicator but it may help, also their are several safety features 60 second warm up and there may be a trans warm up too although I can't remember for sure, also when running speedloader your pyrometer must read at least 300f or It will be resort to stock power, someone else might chime in.I would start with the switch.

Make Sure You Have Uploaded The Speedloader As Well

does anyone know if i can stack the six gun and 110 quad??????

Make Sure You Have Uploaded The Speedloader As Well
What do you mean by uploaded? Banks installed everything and i have not touched anything but the switch.

does anyone know if i can stack the six gun and 110 quad??????
yes you can get your tranny done first




What do you mean by uploaded? Banks installed everything and i have not touched anything but the switch.
then take it back, they will straighten you out

Banks has a dyno in house?

Make them roll it and see what it's doing.

what do you suggest for the tranny,converter and kit???or new tranny.i tow alot of weight

Like bigd said, I would first see if the module flashes twice and then a steady green. The flashing green means that the module acknowledges that the speedloader is present. It does have a safety warm up feature, but I'm sure you've been up to operating temperature. I'm very impressed with mine, and wouldn't want any more power with a stock transmission. There is a noticable difference in power between all of the levels. When you say that everything after level 3 feels the same makes me believe something is not correct. For comparison's sake, my 6-gun on level 4 will edge out a Bullydog Powerpup 95hp. Mine runs very fine on my LB7. I haven't experienced the LLY 6-gun yet.

What do you mean by uploaded? Banks installed everything and i have not touched anything but the switch.
AS BIGD SAID TAKE IT BACK TO BANKS N LET THEM LOOK AT IT AGAIN. I DIDNT REALIZE THEY INSTALLED IT FOR YOU

<O:pBanks LLY Owners Read caution
<O:p</O:p
I just got off of the phone with banks tech on the problem I have been having, where level 3 feels really good, but the levels after that do not perform very well at all.

<O:p</O:p
The 05 LLy has stock 607tq. This is a lot more then the lly4.5. They told me that from what I described to them and they are know looking into is that with the extra torque on the 05 and the banks with speed loader I am slipping my trans after level 3.

<O:p</O:p
This sucks I paid almost 3,000 for it to be installed and all and all I can use is level 3.

</O:p

You have to remember that when your banks is on 6 that is a lot of power going to the transmission and since the six gun has transmission slip protection it will power down when the transmission slips. Mine runs good on 4 but when i turn it up past that my stock torque converter cant hold up so the six gun reduces power. If you want to run levels 5 and 6 you will need to upgrade your tranny.

You have to remember that when your banks is on 6 that is a lot of power going to the transmission and since the six gun has transmission slip protection it will power down when the transmission slips. Mine runs good on 4 but when i turn it up past that my stock torque converter cant hold up so the six gun reduces power. If you want to run levels 5 and 6 you will need to upgrade your tranny.

The Allison is limited,The stock trans is not build for endless power gains,It has factory build in safety features,and so does the Banks Tuner..Upgrading trans is the is the solution.The TC also has limits.When adding Hp (90 Plus) you must consider upgrading the trans in the future. If you like the lower settings the stock ally will do just fine. Pressure and clutch surface is just not their for higher Hp gains, If these feature were not build in in some cases you would be towing ( at much higher Rebuilding cost)too the upgrade Shop instead of driving it There

You have to remember that when your banks is on 6 that is a lot of power going to the transmission and since the six gun has transmission slip protection it will power down when the transmission slips. Mine runs good on 4 but when i turn it up past that my stock torque converter cant hold up so the six gun reduces power. If you want to run levels 5 and 6 you will need to upgrade your tranny.
That is not true. I talk to the tech and level 6 has no protection on it so be careful. I am slipping on level 3 as well. I have been very easy on my truck but i am not even getting it into 3 with out it cutting power. I am now on level1 i am going to look into retuning my banks. I am not happy at all. I can only run level 1 i have not had it slip in level 2 yet but why pay so much for nothing?<O:p</O:p

what techs are you talking too- unless the lly program has been dramatically changed from the lb7 which I am sure- safety wise it has not been, he is wrong. I will talk to peter treydyte tommarrow if he is in I will pm you I have spoken to him before and since the tranny protection stuff is what I have been trying to defeat I am certain that all levels protect your tranny I mean what would be the sense of having tranny protection on the lower levels and not the upper levels. Have you checked your fluid is it burnt, you really need to find out 100% whats wrong with your truck before you post I understand that your upset but it does not seem that you have dug deep enough maybee i am wrong but as I said before the techs seem to be just knowledgeable about installing the product not troublshooting problems such as yours, banks sell alot of products for lots of different models of trucks all with different parameters and settings and I do not think that they would have their best guys sitting around answering the phones.

what techs are you talking too- unless the lly program has been dramatically changed from the lb7 which I am sure- safety wise it has not been, he is wrong. I will talk to peter treydyte tommarrow if he is in I will pm you I have spoken to him before and since the tranny protection stuff is what I have been trying to defeat I am certain that all levels protect your tranny I mean what would be the sense of having tranny protection on the lower levels and not the upper levels. Have you checked your fluid is it burnt, you really need to find out 100% whats wrong with your truck before you post I understand that your upset but it does not seem that you have dug deep enough maybee i am wrong but as I said before the techs seem to be just knowledgeable about installing the product not troublshooting problems such as yours, banks sell alot of products for lots of different models of trucks all with different parameters and settings and I do not think that they would have their best guys sitting around answering the phones.I talked to a tech do not know his name and he pointed out and read in the manual that level 6 was not going to protect me. That is what he told me out of the manual. And also had said he just had a in house memo put on his desk in order to remind him of this fact. I am digging dipper do not worry about.<O:p</O:p
<O:p</O:p

Banks should protect in the rest of the levels I was told but read some of the other posts I am not the only one having this problem.

<O:p</O:p
Yes I am not happy but I also post what I find as I find it so people like you can help me and make sure I am not over looking things. I am calling banks again tomorrow. As well as looking into a dyno run this week.

It looks like the LLY 6-gun is right in line with the LB7 6-gun as far as total output to the transmission.
LB7 300hp 520tq + 155hp 385tq = 455hp 905tq (flywheel)
LLY 310hp 605tq + 124hp 303tq = 434hp 908tq (flywheel)
I don't know why LLY users would be having problems slipping the transmission when the LB7 6-gun doesn't.

You can brag all you want about "trans protection" but the bottom line remains unchanged, if you approach or exceed 700RWTQ your Allison is slipping.