I'm looking for a set of 265/75/16 with the E code for my 2003 D-Max. Anybody have positive/negatives on any brands? Most of my driving is on the freeway, but since we camp and go to the snow I don't want just a road tire and I don't want those loud (damn I only got 10,000 miles because of the large tread) tires.

Thanks

Tony P.

Check out the Bridgestone Revos.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Dueler+A%2FT+Revo

I have good luck with the Firestone Steeltech AT. I've had three sets. Plowed snow, off roaded on the farm and doesn't make alot of noise on the highway. I just bought 265/75 load range E and really like the ride, in fact I don't think they ride any differant then the 245/75 load range E. The only bad thing is Firestone is going to stop making this tire soon but don't know when.

What is GM's position on replacing the 245's with the 265's?

John Bud

I have the bridestones,wanted to sell them to a friend so I called discount tire and was surprised to find they cost more than the bfgs,and they are on back order for 6 months??? wierd huh. I decided to keep them for now,but they did real good in tahoe in the snow!

My truck was delivered new with BFG 265's and I just replaced them at 45K miles with Revos' in the same size, LR E. My dealer had no concerns with servicing my truck with this size tire, again, they delivered it to me that way. The Revo's are a little more civil than the BFG's, better ride and quieter. I priced BFG's at $640 and Revos' at about $680. So far I am happy and the $40 extra bucks was well worth the ride and quietness.

I am personally running the TOYO AT, mine are 285's but they do make a 265. I am very pleased with mine, they are quite and they ride very nice. I would look into them, they are inexpensive as well...

I have Michelin LTX MX tires, which I believe are available in 265. They are terrific and from my experience reasonably good in the snow, if you don't intend to crawl through really deep stuff.

TC

Anyone else think that nearly 700 bucks for tires is a ripoff?

man.

Im sitting on 25k miles, stock tires past the wear lines.........Theyve still got a few k in them until the steel comes in.

When I see sparks, I know the time has come http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/hihi.gif

Anyone else think that nearly 700 bucks for tires is a ripoff?


Yep, I just keep putting the SteelTex AT's back on for $332.

Hit the link Max Power gave you. When this set wears out I'll be more than happy to pay for another!

I've stayed with the OEM 245s - was planning on going with the Michelin XLTs because so many people rave about them. But when it came time for a set I found some spotty availability and very high prices. I opted instead for a set of Dunlop Radial Rovers and have been very happy with them. Good traction in wet and snow, excellent wear and quiet and stable on the highway. Also about $90/tire.

bridgestone dueller revo at---although they look aggresive they ride smooth, quite, great rubber compounding, great in snow rain and dry. never had them in mud. i'm a dealer in nice stuff (euro cars and pick ups) and these are the best truck tires i've seen(inho) i previously used michelin, which also is a good tire however i did experience some sidewall failure and i don't belive they have the snow traction of revo's. the only reason i switched and found the revo's was because France aggravated me with that whole iraq thing.
love the revos--i get them at www.tirerack.com (http://www.tirerack.com) , but the last time i looked they were out of stock----guess everybody else likes them too!!!
hope that helps
rich

Purchased Bridgestone Revo 265 form tirerack.com for under 700.00 to the door w/in 2 days from Delaware. Installed letters out and rides great, look even better.

Bridgestone Duravis and the Firestone Steeltex At's are the same tire. If Firestone is going to stop making them maybe they are just going to continue the Duravis.

I'm runing TOYO 265's, they have good tread, quiet and seem to be wearing quite well. I replaced the OE FIRESTONES because theywere just flat dangerous on wet roads.

Sears has the General All Terrain LT's in 265/75r16E. 50k tire and looks just like the BFG AT. $106 a tire. 2/3 tread at 25k miles. Me like!

When you live in an area that has snow 6 months of the year spending a few more dollars on good tires is well worth the extra money.

I think one of the best all purpose tires around is the Nokian Vatiiva. Nokian is a Finnish tire company known for their snow capabilities. I see lots of these tires in Vermont, and use Nokians myself on the Duramax in winter, and on a rear wheel drive sedan I also own.

However, Nokian's light truck tires are actually made in the USA by Cooper, so something like the Cooper Discoverer ATR might give some of the same properties, but without as high a price.

I replaced the stock tires after they were worn with Less Schwab Open Country A/T 265/75R16's. Very happy with them. So far the tread is quiet on the road, traction is fine and the load rating while an E is 300+ lbs over the stock OEM tires.

See them here:
http://www.lesschwab.com/tires/light_suv/opencountry.html

I recently replaced the oem's with 265 Revos, great tire.... awful price, and I am starting to think that they will wear too quickly. Had BFG ATKO on F$%d Expedition... awesome tire, no E load range... Awful price. Best tire experience I've had is with Dunlop Radial Rover RV (not AT) excellent tire... fair price.... awesome tread life.

forgot to mention above.... the reason I didnt get Dunlop Radial Rover RV again is they were discontinued.... at least that is what all my local tire dealers have told me, found some in the wrong size, on clearance... (Da#$4Mit_)

Toyo and Khumos are inexpensive, and do come in 265.....

Good performance, fair ride, and relatively quiet.

Made in Asia...by non-teamsters = low prices.

If the price of US made tires are "a rip-off", buy the cheaper ones and don't complain about outsourced jobs and trade deficits. Not everyone ignores the obvious.

I've been thru: TOYO Open country 245's 28k miles, Bridgestone steels 245's 24k miles, Dunlop Rover RV XT 265's 30k, now into Michellin 265's, hope to get better tred life

i only got 20,000 out of my stealcraps. i went with the 265 revos becouse of the 50,000 mile waranty. plus their is not a hole lot of tires to choose from in a 265 e rated a/t tire.

I'm going to second the Nokian Vatiiva, I have a set of these on my suburban. What a great tire, pulled the Firestone SteelX's and replaced them with the Nokian's. Going to Nokian Vatiiva on my new 05 Dmax when it gets here and replace the 245's with 265's. The SteelX's would spin at the stop signs when it was wet out.

I have 245's. Dealer service adviser says GM not concerned with one size up! 265's for me and am looking at ProComp All Terrains.

Toyo and Khumos are inexpensive, and do come in 265.....

Good performance, fair ride, and relatively quiet.

Made in Asia...by non-teamsters = low prices.

If the price of US made tires are "a rip-off", buy the cheaper ones and don't complain about outsourced jobs and trade deficits. Not everyone ignores the obvious.
For a load range E tire, I can see spending 100 bucks a tire, someone said that General makes some in this range. I think that General is an American company........You seem to be up to date on this....Inform me.

I also wouldnt think that there are too many man hours involved in making tires. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/confused.gif

My point was that I am cheap, and 100+ bucks for a tire sounds like a lot.

Thanks for the "buy American" reminder. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/rockon.gif

Got over 70K miles with the OEM Bridgestones.Mostly highway.Going back with the same..Ken

For a load range E tire, I can see spending 100 bucks a tire, someone said that General makes some in this range. I think that General is an American company........You seem to be up to date on this....Inform me.

I also wouldnt think that there are too many man hours involved in making tires. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/confused.gif

My point was that I am cheap, and 100+ bucks for a tire sounds like a lot.

Thanks for the "buy American" reminder. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/rockon.gifGenerals = Japan. I believe Dunlop (Germany) took over General Tire in the late 70s - early 80s (don't recall exactly), then Dunlop was sold, Genrals went with it to Japan. They are all marked Japan now, anyways. Generals are not bad on dry roads, but the ones I ran on my Intl 9670 road tractor (22.5") were horrible in the wet stuff. Unfortunately, they outlasted the darn truck, so I did not get to test other brands to compare.

Currently, I roll on 19.5" (see signature) so I can't get tires for less than $290 a peice no matter what the brand, so I guess that's why I've grown less sensitive to the prices of Light Truck tires. Did not mean to incinuate that anywone was "cheap", if it was a faux-pas on my part, I appologize.

I currently have Michelin's on the ground, and a Khumo for spare (all that was available at the shop where I got a steer tire fixed). I run "highway service" treads on front (for quieter ride and better braking on blacktop), Code XTN, 225/70R19.5F, 12-ply low profiles, and more aggressive Highway-Traction Block on the rear, Code YTN, 225/70R19.5F, 12-Ply, Low profiles. I've got at least 1/4" tread left at all six positions with 120,000 Miles on them. But that may not be representative of what Light Truck tires get on 16" rims. Full set of Michelins (as above) will run $303.90 (average) a peice from Mr. Tire. They are literally the best prices around (here anyway).

Also, I run everythng stock and the truck scales at just under 12,000 lbs. empty, so I am not hard on those tires (no smoking these big boys, and governor limits speeds to 85 Mph.).

I have 245's. Dealer service adviser says GM not concerned with one size up! 265's for me and am looking at ProComp All Terrains.My wife's '99 GMC K2500 (pre-HD, 6.0L gas, GVW "Over 8600 lbs" on the door) had 265's on it soon after it got all-4 tires slashed in a parking lot. They were replaced at a Good Year tire shop that did not have 245's in stock, so they put on what they had and changed the speedo to correct the rolling distance.

She never had any dealer say a thing, and it was in and out of several shops for routine and other maintenance, as she travelled across the country. I don't think they even cared since the difference in rolling distance is minimal, and would not make that much difference to start causing problems.

Dunlop Radial Rover A/Ts are no longer available? That's why there was a "limited quantity" message when I just bought the new pair off TireRack! I got 58,000 miles out of my OEM Firestone Steeltex. I just renewed the rears only on my Dunlops (fronts still look great - rears were getting close to the wear indicators and I decided I needed some more "bite" for Winter) at 37,200 miles. Darn! I guess I'll be looking for something else in another 40,000 miles or so.

My '02 had the firestone steeltex with 66k on them when I sold it. They were miserable on wet pavement but great in the snow. My '04 still has the OEM Bridgestones with 45k and looking like I will get 70k out of them but they are positively worthless in over 6" of snow. I'd like a more aggressive tire when I'm off road but 90% of the time I'm on the highway so I don't want to buy a tire that won't last 50k. Still undecided about which to go with. Really considering Michellan.

Big O Bigfoot ATs.

Coopers - made in Ohio I think, ProComps, made in USA also. I'm getting some Coopers to replace my OEM's in the spring, I don't tow with the H2's.

Generals = Japan. I believe Dunlop (Germany) took over General Tire in the late 70s - early 80s (don't recall exactly), then Dunlop was sold, Genrals went with it to Japan. They are all marked Japan now, anyways. Generals are not bad on dry roads, but the ones I ran on my Intl 9670 road tractor (22.5") were horrible in the wet stuff. Unfortunately, they outlasted the darn truck, so I did not get to test other brands to compare.

Currently, I roll on 19.5" (see signature) so I can't get tires for less than $290 a peice no matter what the brand, so I guess that's why I've grown less sensitive to the prices of Light Truck tires. Did not mean to incinuate that anywone was "cheap", if it was a faux-pas on my part, I appologize.

I currently have Michelin's on the ground, and a Khumo for spare (all that was available at the shop where I got a steer tire fixed). I run "highway service" treads on front (for quieter ride and better braking on blacktop), Code XTN, 225/70R19.5F, 12-ply low profiles, and more aggressive Highway-Traction Block on the rear, Code YTN, 225/70R19.5F, 12-Ply, Low profiles. I've got at least 1/4" tread left at all six positions with 120,000 Miles on them. But that may not be representative of what Light Truck tires get on 16" rims. Full set of Michelins (as above) will run $303.90 (average) a peice from Mr. Tire. They are literally the best prices around (here anyway).

Also, I run everythng stock and the truck scales at just under 12,000 lbs. empty, so I am not hard on those tires (no smoking these big boys, and governor limits speeds to 85 Mph.).
No, you hit the nail on the head. Im very cheap......http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/rockon.gif

I was unaware that Generals too are made overseas. Does Firestone make the same tires that came stock in 265 size?

I'm looking for a set of 265/75/16 with the E code for my 2003 D-Max. Anybody have positive/negatives on any brands? Most of my driving is on the freeway, but since we camp and go to the snow I don't want just a road tire and I don't want those loud (damn I only got 10,000 miles because of the large tread) tires.

Thanks

Tony P.

I think the Michelin LTX M/S (made in South Carolina) are just what you're looking for. They're quiet, very long-lasting, & do an acceptable job in off-road & snow conditions. I would have put them on my H2 wheels if they were made in the correct size, but they aren't, so I bought a set of Cooper Discoverer ATRs (http://www.coopertire.com/us/en/ProductDetails.asp?ProdType=LtTruck&id=257)(made in Ohio). I really like them so far, but can't imagine them lasting near as long as the Michelins.

M/T

Firestone = Bridgestone (also Japan)...same company now. All Bridgestone sizes are the same for Firestone, the only differences are the tread patterns and some warranties. BTW, Bridge/Fire-stones cannot be patched, regroved, or recapped without voiding the warranties. Something to do with their patented shell construction. For commercial service, I would give either brand a "thumb's up". For appearance, their sporty T/As are on a lot of new trucks from the factory. GM, Ford, and D/C sell a lot of trucks with Firestones on them, and the consummers seem to be pleased, for the most part (other than the Ford fiasco a few years back...can you say "recall"). And to answer your question directly, you should be able to get 265s in either Bridge-Firestones from Mr.Tire, as I believe they are standard size on larger SUVs.

I've been away from fleet buying for a few years (since '97), and manufacturers do change compounds and constructions every so often, so my experiences may not reflect the most current information. I just go with what works best for the service that I currently put on them, and Michelins have never failed me since that first car I had as a teenager, a '66 Impala SS Convertible that came with the 327 SB, Dual Carter AFBs (swapped for Holley 1150s and Edelbrock in '70), Hurst "triple-shift", and Michelin Radials (and yes, back then lots of people would honk to tell me that I needed air in my tires; yes, they were expensive to replace; and you could only special order them from Sears).

Thanks for the info RF. I acually just looked on Ebay, and they have a pretty good selection of these tires on the cheap.

GitRDun

I put 265 revos on mine and love em. I've done about 8000 miles so far. They perform quite well on the highway with 20000 combined and they perform quite well on snow ice etc. I comfortably blew by a whole line of cars chaining up going over Snowqualmi pass last weekend 2 hours before they closed the pass. Didn't slip once.

I have BF Goodrich All-terrain and they are working out really good, good in the snow and good on the high way. Might want to look into them.

Thanks for all the info. I'm leaning towards the revo's at costco. Out the door they are a hair under $700.00........Damn what happened to the days of buying tires for my 69 bug?


Thanks again

Tony P.

I have Nitto Terra Graplers in 265/75/R16 and the have worked out great. They come in load range E and the dealer reprogrammed the computer for the spedo and abs. They were pretty cheap too i think about 120 per tire from discount tire.

I have run the Mich LTX's for years and always thought great of them. I was somehow talked into buying the Revo's back in November and I did. I think they are awesome tires. I like the tread design, they are quiet, yet rugged.

Jeff

Radio Flyer- check www.ricksontruck.com for prices on you 19.5's. They have the 225 michelin at $254/274, depending on load range. I'm considering 19.5's for my truck, since I'm only getting about 20k out of a set of the stock Firestones. Can't seem to modulate the throttle...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif I like the look of the 19.5's, even on the SRW trucks. They would have to last 3 times as long to pay for themselves, but I don't think that's out of range.

Didn't see them mentioned, but after my TrXus MT's (very poor IMO) wore out I put on a set of Cooper Discoverer S/T in 265 LRE. More aggressive than a standard A/T, but much more civilized than a MT. Seem as quiet as to OEM Steeltex tires.

http://www.coopertires.com/us/en/ProductDetails.asp?ProdType=LtTruck&id=190&title=Light+Truck+Tires

I would recommend the TOYO Open Country AT tire. I have 5k on them so far and they are showing hardly any signs of wear. They are also very quiet and make the truck corner like a sports car. Have three other friend of mine that I have talked into getting this tire and they all could not be happier.

After the 25K rotation, my Revos have been very loud. They were very quiet the first 25K. This is their second winter and snow traction is great, but the noise will keep me from buying them again. BTW they were rotated every 5K.
Steve

SWLA,

Thanks. My local Mr. Tire has slightly higher prices (mounted and balanced), but the state tire fees bring the price up quite a bit. Buying mail order for local mounting and balance would bring it up to about the same.

I really do appreciate the link, though. Your definitely looking out for the rest of us here.