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: Rear end "CLUNK" sound when cold???


skoryaro2
01-17-2005, 02:46 PM
Since the onset of very cold weather again over the past few days I have noticed that if I start the engine (block heater used) and put the truck into forward gear without a proper warm-up (to pull it out of the garage for warm-up) I get a loud "clunk" sound from the rearend. It only does it when it's cold and only does it once until another very cold start-up again. I think it's related to putting it into gear w/o a proper warm-up. Does this sound right? I know I should be waiting before putting it into gear but just trying to get it out of the garage so as not to wake the whole house up :).

I recently changed the rear-end fluid out to Mobil 1 synthetic from the stock fluid.

Thanks! Rob

On edit: Ooops - probably should have been in the Allison Trans. forum :(

ramaporunner
01-17-2005, 07:14 PM
I have experienced the same thing and the dealer cannot replicate it. I have even left it over night and met them early but I can not duplicate the clunk. It happens most every time my D/A is backed out of my long driveway..... after approx 15 feet, there is a "clunk" that seems/sounds/feels to be in the rear end followed by a "squeaking" sounding like a brake pad or drum rubbing in the rear.

The dealer first replaced the front yoke w/ a nickle one because of a tSB concerning a "clunk" and that fixed it for a while but it's back. At wits end. Replaced rear diff w/ Mobil1 75-90 thinking it would help. Did not at all. Any ideas?

Diesel-N-Dust
01-17-2005, 07:22 PM
Try greasing your slip-yoke. Anti-sieze works great.

skoryaro2
01-17-2005, 09:25 PM
Will try the grease - thanks!

Ramaporunner, Sounds like mine is a different issue than yours. Mine only does it once when first put into gear when cold (upon first pressure applied to drive train). I pulled my truck head-in to the garage tonight to see if it does it putting it into reverse tomorrow AM instead of forward gear.

Kurt W.
01-17-2005, 09:45 PM
That happened one time so far this season to me. It sat outside during my work period in about 10 degree weather. It may just be from a little bit of condensation it the rear end causing it to freeze up a bit. But don't know what to do to keep it from doing that though.

Loki_nine
01-18-2005, 08:59 AM
Try greasing your slip-yoke. Anti-sieze works great.
Anti-sieze is NOT a lubricant!!

It has some abrasive qualities & I would not use it to "grease" anything

skoryaro2
01-18-2005, 09:02 AM
That happened one time so far this season to me. It sat outside during my work period in about 10 degree weather. It may just be from a little bit of condensation it the rear end causing it to freeze up a bit. But don't know what to do to keep it from doing that though.

Yea, that's what I'm thinking. FWIW it was 1*F this AM and it didn't do it this AM (put it in reverse rather than forward) :confused:

Diesel-N-Dust
01-18-2005, 05:53 PM
Anti-sieze is NOT a lubricant!!

It has some abrasive qualities & I would not use it to "grease" anything
The label says "Anti-sieze lubricant"

Prevents seizing,galling and corrosion of metal parts in temperatures of -65 to +1600 degrees.
It does say not to use in bearings crankcases or gearboxes.

I have used it on the splines of the slip-yoke on my last truck and it had over 100k when I sold it. never had any problems. It did solve the driveline clunk for me.

olskool53
01-18-2005, 08:05 PM
mine does this to! I believe its the rear brakes releasing! When you park these at night the brakes are red hot,set the ebrake let it sit overnight in 10-20f or even colder, and you get some moisture frezeing on the pads caliper and rotor! Its normal, never does it when its warm!

skoryaro2
01-21-2005, 10:39 AM
mine does this to! I believe its the rear brakes releasing! When you park these at night the brakes are red hot,set the ebrake let it sit overnight in 10-20f or even colder, and you get some moisture frezeing on the pads caliper and rotor! Its normal, never does it when its warm!

I think you are right! I've really paid attention to it the last few days. It is worse the first couple days after a wash or during times when the roads are wet in very cold temps. After a few days of dryness, it stops doing it. It does sound like it comes from the rear brakes.

Loki_nine
01-21-2005, 11:44 AM
The label says "Anti-sieze lubricant"

Prevents seizing,galling and corrosion of metal parts in temperatures of -65 to +1600 degrees.
It does say not to use in bearings crankcases or gearboxes.

I have used it on the splines of the slip-yoke on my last truck and it had over 100k when I sold it. never had any problems. It did solve the driveline clunk for me.There is a reason they don't recommend their own product for such use.
It is not a lubricant in the typically thought of manner.
It "lubricates" against "seizing, galling and corrosion of metal parts" by setting up a barrier between dissimilar metals (most bolts/nuts are not made of the identical material that they are securing). In order to do this it incorporates a base that inhibits corrosion & is not easily dissolved (unlike most true lubricants) along with very fine gritty particules that serve to minimize any actual physical contact dissimilar metals may have. Put some between your fingers & rub it together for a short time, it will feel rough & anything but slick.

Does this really sound like a product you want to place between 2 surfaces in motion, that must also maintain contact?
Certainly there are products available more suited/recommended for this type of lubricating application (ie-bearing grease,etc...)
Although you stated you had no trouble, applying products for use in applications other than their intended purposes can lead to warranty issues, & accountability problems on the professional level.

WOJO 1
01-21-2005, 01:38 PM
My brothers truck had a similar sound. He took it in and they replaced the entire rear gear set. Dealer told him they have done more than a few. His is an 03'