What should I expect to pay for the triple loc and co-pilot with instalation?
Any suggestions where to go, I am in east central IL? thanks for the help

kit is a tick under 3200 and install complete will be in the 1500 range. You'll be pushing 5k with freight and fluid..or less

Look for somebody to offer an installers warranty. If it pukes.....

Do the clutches too while you have it out...

with the clutches and everything what am i looking at thanks for the info

that price includes the entire rework, clutches and all

I got an estimate from bellflower transmision, which is in bellflower, ca. i was refured to them by ATS. which came out to $7,521 for a complete re-built tranny from ATS.

1- ATS tranny, LCT1000 $3895.00
2- ATS triple lock covertor and ATS controller $1388.00
3- Fluids $50.00
4- Fluid adatives / cooler flush $52.00 = $5,385
Labor $1135 plus tax

Does this sound right?

5,385.00 for fluids is a bit expensive.

you might want to shop around a bit on that.

Heck, I bet MikeL would even fly up there and change the fluids for that much $$$$ LOL

that $5000k was the total with parts and fluids. then labor $1135

I would PM dpfcummins.

that $5000k was the total with parts and fluids. then labor $1135
I was making fun of item #4 you posted... it has a typo.

It was a joke... :)

I got an estimate from bellflower transmision, which is in bellflower, ca. i was refured to them by ATS. which came out to $7,521 for a complete re-built tranny from ATS.

1- ATS tranny, LCT1000 $3895.00
2- ATS triple lock covertor and ATS controller $1388.00
3- Fluids $50.00
4- Fluid adatives / cooler flush $52.00 = $5,385
Labor $1135 plus tax

Does this sound right?
Call or PM Mike L. for a competitive quote. He installs ATS kits as well as any other trans mod you can think of.

For god sake call Mike L quick. I think your being cleaned out.

on edit, who the Censored is Bellflower transmissions? I've never heard of them, but that's not saying much. I don't even know who this "Trippin guy" is. ):h ):h ):h

John

I think 1135.00 for installation is way out of line. They are allready making a good profit on the trans. They seem to show no love to their customers.

mike

Just talked to bellflower transmission and their quote of $7521.70 includes ATS tranny LCT1000, Triple lock coverter, co-pilot, fluids & labor.
they say they will need the truck for 3 days, what do you think MikeL?

:rolleyes: is their any other companies that can beat this quote?

Just talked to bellflower transmission and their quote of $7521.70 includes ATS tranny LCT1000, Triple lock coverter, co-pilot, fluids & labor.
they say they will need the truck for 3 days, what do you think MikeL?

Holy cow thats a lot of bread. Save 4 grand and tackle it yourself I say. For that price that should include a weekend in Vegas while your truck is being done.

The fact that the copilot is included make more sense now.

I just got mine done this weekend with all new clutches, co-pilot, converter and everything for $4600. It is awesome to not have worry about limping.:ro)

It is awesome to not have worry about limping.:ro) i had no clue how true this was untill i went to the other side :D

for that kind of coin how do they sleep at night??

Jmoody ,Get ahold of Clint down there by you in Paris.NLDP

just remember when you buy the complete kit from ats, you get the triple loc, co-pilot, and c1,c2 and c3 clutches. the "kit" does not include c4 and c5 you hafta request them after the fact and i believe they add another 300-500 onto the bill. if you do the complete tranny swap they already have all the clutches done. the reason why they dont include c4 and c5 is that they are very tricky to get in and out. i did the complete tranny swap and did all the labor myself. i had about $5400 in the whole deal, co-pilot and everything. i can take a truck and have the tranny out in a little under 2 hrs now. all together i can do a swap out in about 6. thats drinkin some beer and goofing off. just my $0.02

Just talked to bellflower transmission and their quote of $7521.70 includes ATS tranny LCT1000, Triple lock coverter, co-pilot, fluids & labor.
they say they will need the truck for 3 days, what do you think MikeL?
Thank God ATS is only up the road from me, I will be going direct when I upgrade.

I thought c 4 and 5 was pretty easy to get to. c1 and 2 are kinda a PITA. c 3 is the exact same procedure as c 4

I would suggest taking a ride in an ATS truck and also in a SC truck and possibly waiting a few weeks if possible to see how this DTT will shake out. I bounce around between Springfield and Peoria if your interested in cruising around in a stage 5 truck.

ratlover, they way i understood it when i talked to several diff people at ats. was that c1- c3 were fairly simple. i was gonna do all the tranny work myself but they described the work of puttin in the c4 and c5 as VERY TRICKY. just what i heard so i wouldnt bet that farm on it...lol

C4 & C5 come out the back side of the tranny

i wonder why c1 - c3 are the only ones that come in the kit

The c4's and c5's take an extra hour or more to change taking the backside apart. The reason they dont come with the triple-pak kit is because the stock c4's and c5's will work fine in most high horsepower situations. Matt

I wouldnt skimp.. C4's are burnt in 90 % of the trannies I pull down.. Thats 2nd gear folks.

If your not comfortable doing the c4, then hire it out. Dont skimp.

c3's and c 4's were the only thing that showed any sign of damage in my trans. I am not saying that I believe the stock c-4's wont hold the power but I sure as heck wouldnt pull apart my trans 1/2 way and not atleast check em. And at least stick the little buggers back in with the slots lined up. You can yank the back of the case pretty easy leaving the output still connected. C5's come right out and then it looks exactly like the c3's. It can take a bit of wiggling and giggling to get the back of the case to drop in since you have to get the gears to do thier little meshing thing but its not hard. Just gota make sure you do the front 1/2 and then the back 1/2, dont want to strip the case althe way down or it becomes a real PITA to get it back together.

What dmaxalli says makes perfect sense. Wouldn't you at least like to inspect your C4 & C5 clutches to know there not toast before you button the trans up? I know I would.

If you've got a good working tranny your C5's are probably fine--C4's are another story. If I were spending all that money, I'd sure want to know that my trans was in tip top shape before it was put back in my truck. Do it right, the extra time and money will be well spent.

I fell into that trap. I bought the whole ATS kit last Feb. It came with C-1s C-2s and C-3s. I had limped my stock trans once or twice before the ATS install. I didn't even look at C-4 or C-5 as they weren't in the kit.

After the install I started racing the trans hard.

6 months later I had a long tow coming up for vacation, so I decided to look at the trans just to make sure everybody inside was playing nicely. I found C-4s with a considerable amount of wear. Now did it happen before or after the ATS install? I'll never know. :(

I immediately called Clint at ATS and urged him to begin offering C-4s and C-5s as part of the kit, or at least as an option, so that his customers would at least know to look at them during install.

Hopefully, I had some effect in preventing somebody else from having the same experience that I had.:D

I also believe the heavier trucks like mine are harder on clutches.

for the money i feel the trans swap is a pretty good deal. plus you have the relief of knowing that all your clutches are new and it really saves on time. if you are fairly mechanical inclined you can do it yourself in your garage or driveway with some ramps a a couple jacks. heck if you were not more than couple hours away ill come help as long as you have beer in the fridge):h its not a bad job if you have taken one out before. my first time was a little rough, but arent they all?):h

my first time was a little rough, but arent they all?):h
My first time required the use of a excavator and a skidsteer with a pair of forks for the R&R:eek: ):h

Second time when much easier with no use of equipment:eek: ):h . Third time went as easy as # 2(although took quite awhile time wise, not becasue of install dificulties) and I have taken a vow to never use UPS again:mad:

Oh no Philip The Bac will be all over you for that one.):h

I figured that would light his fire):h

I understand delays, I can deal with that. When the new UPS driver cant find my dads house 2 days in a row(he couldnt find it the first day what the hell made him think he could find it the second day, and my dad lives IN TOWN, duno why he got lost:confused: ) that peves me a little, especially when they dont try to contact the shiiper or the reciver to find out WTF the deal is. But when i call to see what can be done and I get a "we cant do anything call the 1 800#"(I got that before when the local office didnt want to deal with anything) and the 1 800# tells me"I cant do anything if the local office cant do anything"(local says 1 800# office calls shots, 1 800 says local calls the shots) I start to get anoyed. When i ask 1 800 why should I continue to do buisness with your co and I get a "well you just have to accept that we are humans and make mistakes" I start to get a little tweaked. When i say I relize you make mistakes and I am willing to accept that but what will you do to make things right and I'm told to call the corprate office. "Whats that #?" "I dont have it, you will have to look at our website" "you dont know your own corprate #?!" "Nope" "whats your name?" "Jaqualin(sp?)" "got a last name?" "My first name is all I'm required to give you" I hang up the phone since right now i am annoyed and I am getting no were with "customer service" I look up corprates number and its the same FREAKIN # I CALLED:mad: at this point I am really pissed. I say screw it....my truck is going to sit till monday because my package is sitting in the back of a truck and they wont let me get to it even though they know exactly what truck it is in, hellI will even rummage through the truck and fish it out I tell local and the "help desk"......if it was air mail I could get it but since its ground and the ground operation is shut down on sat:mad: So.......I went to hooters, ate a **** load of buffalo shrimp and drank alot of beer(ask Daryl:o ) Had to burn a day of vacation ect ect. I tried to get them to refun the shipper but they said the shipper had to be the one calling. WTF? You cant credit his card or his account without him asking for it? He has to take time outa his schedule to wait on hold for 10 min to get his $ back?

If sun coast or ats or DTT or billybobs trany shop had great customer service it would just be icing on the cake if they sold an excellent trany. Even if thier customer service was horrid and they still made the best trans they are still selling a great trans, many people would still buy knowing they have poor customer service becasue thiermain desire is for the best trans. But if you have no product and all you are selling is service......well it better be freaking good. I will never use UPS and I will not buy a product from a vendor if I cant get it shipped from someone other than UPS.

Sorry BAC, no offense to you since I'm sure you offer excellent service and value to the UPS customers in your area but you Co. seriously **** in my cheerios over a couple incidents and I aint shipping brown again.

ummm.....wow, that turned into one hell of an angry rant:o

ratlover - i have been in the shipping buisness for over 9 years . for the first 6 years i was pushing ups services but all of a sudden things changed . they dont care anymore if your pakage is on time . they dont pay claims on lost or damaged goods no matter how it is packed . this is all attributed ups management . my drivers over the years have been great. ups drivers can slack though being part of the union is a great thing for a driver . they can get away with anything short of stealing and keep thier jobs . fed ex on the other hand is not union so the drivers need to perform or there are real consiquences . also my fed ex account rep will bend over backwards to fix amyone of my complaints or claims the same day i call . on the other hand my ups rep takes about 4 days to call back and then he will tell me sorry my hands are tied i cant help you . i am sure people will have different opinions . everyone has different life experiences.

Didnt ever say not to check the c4's, but the trannies i've done have been good, probably depends on wether you are rebuilding the tranny as a precaution to more horsepower or if you have already destroyed it. I would recomend doing the c4's if you have the extra money but i've also seen stock c4's hold a lot of power just fine. Not very complicated to do just a little more time. Matt

So did anybody tell him how much he should expect to pay for an ATS trans and who to go to:confused:

We have gone just a wee bit OT:o

I am getting mine done next month for $4600 and that is triple pack, convertor, co-pilot, ats C4's-C5's, transynd and deep pan, that was all installed.:ro) Cory

ratlover, i loved the story, got a good laugh out of it cause i have been in that same situation about 3 times. glad to know im not the only one...lol

onebaddmax, thats sounds like a pretty d*** good deal to me. my swap cost me about 5500 and the truck was only down for an afternoon(that was the biggest problem for me, i could only have it down for a day at a time). plus i dont have any installers close.

Thats what it looks like after seeing what others have paid.

I am getting mine done next month for $4600 and that is triple pack, convertor, co-pilot, ats C4's-C5's, transynd and deep pan, that was all installed.:ro) Cory
That seems a little cheap especially with copilot install and deep pan. Don't forget shipping.

Price is in line with what ATS sells them for. Labor is only 600 which looks to be the good part of the deal. It says "includes shipping of parts".

Price is in line with what ATS sells them for. Labor is only 600 which looks to be the good part of the deal. It says "includes shipping of parts".
You better make sure because if that is true, the installer would make more money on the unemployment line.

$600 for 8hrs. of work is better than farming most days. Matt

Hell yeah I'd take $75 an hour!

600 bucks in 8 hours...

Not in the trans world.. 8 hours or 30, it dont matter.

That hardly covers your time and you "backend" to cover and 'unintentional expenses' if something happens to that trans....

You guys are missing the point on the labor charge...Mike knows what I mean.

That's no different then any other business.

You better make sure because if that is true, the installer would make more money on the unemployment line.I can promise you that it is true because they did mine just this weekend and I was out the door for $4600 http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/rockon.gif