Some light reading.

Link on my sig and check the GM area in the forums and interactive tech tips.
Looks interesting Eh?

:ro) :ro) :ro) :ro) :ro) :ro) :ro) :ro) :ro) :ro) :ro) :ro) :ro) :ro) :ro) :ro)

http://www.dieseltrans.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=559

Very interesting, now we need to know the price and when it's available. :confused:

intersting stuff to say the least

Very interesting, now we need to know the price and when it's available. :confused:
I am having Level2 installed Jan 31

sorry, i would tell you the price but I do not know yet.... and i am on a strict 1 answer limit.:D

Well we are waiting for more details... Posting soon I hope...

Gee, something looks familiar here.
http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14975&page=6&pp=10
This has got to be REVERSE ENGINEERING at its' best. They say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Thanks Will or Bill or whatever your name is.
Can you say XEROX?
Smoop;)

I think the sh!t is fixing to hit the fan again.. Going to get messy around here...

LOL smoop calling the kettle black?... that's a good one.

I guess DTT has copied Suncoast's yet to be released case?):h

Ok I have popcorn and drink in hand... This is going to be good...

Ok I have popcorn and drink in hand... This is going to be good...
):h I like my popcorn with extra tranny fluid on it):h

Pass the beer.

):h I like my popcorn with extra tranny fluid on it):h

Pass the beer.
Well there is only so many ways to skin the cat and they have all been done long ago(before Suncoast, TTS, DTT and ATS). So I guess were all coping the guys that did it before to different applications. So to bigger pistions, more clutches more pressure we all bow down. Now let's get on with life and go have some fun. :D

Pass the popcorn Juice!):h

I don't think Juice has the popcorn right now. OK Which one of you guys is the popcorn whore? Heck with it; Steve, Guy, which ever one of you guys is closer, get me a beer.):h Beer doesn't stick in my teeth like popcorn.:cool:

Just got this in email today...


Diesel Transmission Technology (DTT) has released their long awaited Ultimate Allison Product line for the Duramax Diesel. The days of only a shift kit and converter are over. DTT ’s Ultimate Allison Product line will allow both OEM and already partially modified Allison truck owners to finally enjoy the reliability they knew their Allison’s were capable of. Product information is located on the link provided. If you have any questions please feel free to contact DTT on their toll free number at 866-504-4002.

Pricing information will be posted in the next couple of days.



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Well there is only so many ways to skin the cat and they have all been done long ago(before Suncoast, TTS, DTT and ATS). So I guess were all coping the guys that did it before to different applications. So to bigger pistions, more clutches more pressure we all bow down. Now let's get on with life and go have some fun. :D

Pass the popcorn Juice!):h


But ...but but to throw a stink bomb into the paraded to DTT,they said they were taking a whole different direction.
In keeping with our commitment to product excellence we at DTT have chosen not to follow the present industry trend of shift kit and factory like performing converters. The DTT DURAMAX Transmission product line when released will lead the way for the Diesel aftermarket transmission manufacturers worldwide. Power transfer, longevity and durability are of the utmost importance in the design features for the ultimate DURAMAX Transmission.



Hmmmmmmmm although that is a bit changed from the first quote off their site! ;)

ATS doesn't have a shift kit per say. We know SC and others have built of a Transgo.Just about ANYONE can get a custom converter.

I'm with Smoop,late into the game if you ask me,hope the guns don't start blazing,good luck.

Well there is only so many ways to skin the cat and they have all been done long ago(before Suncoast, TTS, DTT and ATS). So I guess were all coping the guys that did it before to different applications. So to bigger pistions, more clutches more pressure we all bow down. Now let's get on with life and go have some fun. :D

Pass the popcorn Juice!):h
Well, that does it. I am giving up skinning cats, we are currently doing research on skinning possums. Juice, we tried baiting our possum traps with popcorn, we did not catch a single possum. I'll be trying sweet tators next since our currently supplier has been back ordering our turnips.
smoop;)

Just got this in email today...

I wonder how many others received this email. I did...

Me too.

I wonder how many others received this email. I did...
Hacked?

Damn I did not get the e-mail.

I would think that registering on DTT's Site Forum would give them your email. Or if you had emailed them previously on the transmission. I only got the email on my excite account, as i am registered on the BB thru that email addy.

Just a thought.

I didn't either, i'm really thinking about suicide (no one loves me enough to even spam me) ):h

I didn't either, i'm really thinking about suicide (no one loves me enough to even spam me) ):h
HA! Register next time and you will get the email..... Darn BB 'Ghosts'):h

I guess I registered....a long long time ago......looking for information......in a land far far away. ):h

I guess I registered....a long long time ago......looking for information......in a land far far away. ):h
Holy ShCensored t..... Cue Starwars Music Maestro!):h

Hey joe, first of all let us make sure reverse engineering means the same to all involved . To me reverse engineering is when you take a competitors piece,dis assemble measure the specs and copy it.

Having said that you accuse DTT of reverse engineering, kind of hard to reverse engineer when no one has ever seen the stuff we are supposed to have reverse engineered in the first place including your dealers and customers. We have been receiving phone calls for the last 2 days from aftermarket builders and installers including yours who use multiple systems including Suncoast and have never heard of these so called parts that I am supposed to be copying.

Then I started reading another thread that you jumped in . Yank converters , cutting down another vendor of course, saying that you got his piece, cut it open, know his specs and can now modify your customers to make it similar. What is the point of getting into an arguement with a guy that would admit he reverse engineers. I dont even know Steve, but what you are trying to do to his business is disgusting. Threads like that really show peoples true colors.

One thing people will find about us is if we come after someone it is because we think they are lying and can prove it technically. We are too busy to be playing stupid name calling games with you. If my dad ever did what you were trying to do with Steve at TTS I would be embarassed, and why would you modify your TC the same way as TTS if yours is better. Wouldnt they be better off buying it right from the guy that actually came up with the idea. Personally , I think you need to get over yourself and get your own ideas, if your tranny guys had these parts available to them they sure wouldnt be calling me . You had 3 years to fix them Joe along with the rest of the aftermarket and they are still failing. If the trannys were holding no one would care what we had to say. Next thing I know you will be accusing me of reverse engineering my twin turbo set up. If you intend to say that you had better do it quick and post your own pictures because mine will be done by the end of the week.

Twins by the end of the week??!! Sweet. Can't wait for the reverse engineering pics lol.

Cool, I'll be 'borrowing' Stefan's truck now... I can say that for sure :ROCK"

I'm gonna tease Juice with my twins every second I can.:ro) Maybe then my LLY, will beat a LB7.):h :ro)

I'm gonna tease Juice with my twins every second I can.:ro) Maybe then my LLY, will beat a LB7.):h :ro)
You have more weight..... and more turbos

I have less weight and more fuel.

STEFAN!.... you have 3 weeks to get my twins ready:ro) ):h

Twins on an lly?....Holy sh@t batman:eek: ...can I see....please? Heck need a beta tester?:ro) Please don't use my suncoast against me...I have no idea whats going on here...maybe its none of my business.

So what's coming first, twin turbos for the LB7 or the LLY?

So what's coming first, twin turbos for the LB7 or the LLY?
Don't be Silly. There is a System Here.

Stefan's Truck First.

MINE SECOND!):h

The rest of you guys a bit later.

But Don't worry, I'll just hang around, Tell Y'all about it and Have a cup of S):h T):h F):h U):h

BASTARD):h ):h ):h

Juice........... You + twins = troubbbblblble

"Anything" + Juice = TROUBLE!!!! lolololol ):h

BASTARD):h ):h ):h
Actually .... I have learned my lesson... I will not say what gets installed on my truck for the next 6 months.... Just post dyno sheets.... will that be sufficient to assauge your misgivings?):h

There There....... I am kidding... I do not need more power... nope... perfectly happy with 242RWHP.... yep..... The truck is perfect from the factory... No need for more.


:eek:

Juice........... You + twins = troubbbblblble
Time To Bring my new Mod to DTT.

TWIN COMPATIBLE
JUICEGRIPS(TM)):h

Juice

You need to ride a mule for a while and get your thoughts together. You are far too hyper. Mules have a way to calm ones soul ( till they kick the $hit out of you)):h I feel your hyper vibes all the way from Kanada ( no disrespect because of spelling). Please, just get on that mule and take a ride into the forest, you will come back a new man or ripped to shreds.):h
mike

[QUOTE=Got Juice?]Actually .... I have learned my lesson... I will not say what gets installed on my truck for the next 6 months.... Just post dyno sheets.... will that be sufficient to assauge your misgivings?):h

We don't need any north of the border fuzzy math.):h ):h

"Actually .... I have learned my lesson... I will not say what gets installed on my truck for the next 6 months.... Just post dyno sheets...."

Juice........... Did you really write that? You must be kidding. I think that you would explode in less than two weeks with any real good info........sheesssh, who do you think you're kid'n? ):h


Steffan............... Did you get any pointers from Clint? You know he had a set of twins some time ago. When will we see the "set" of turbo's?


Burner--------------------------> :D

Juice

You need to ride a mule for a while and get your thoughts together. You are far too hyper. Mules have a way to calm ones soul ( till they kick the $hit out of you)):h I feel your hyper vibes all the way from Kanada ( no disrespect because of spelling). Please, just get on that mule and take a ride into the forest, you will come back a new man or ripped to shreds.):h
mike
:D

Mike.....ripped to shreads, would that be the Mule or Juice? You know he does live wayyyyy up there in Canada. It does get lonely... a mule might not be enough. ):h

My Money is on the Mule:eek: ):h

My Money is on the Mule:eek: ):h
Try whispering in its ear.:ro) For Gods sake don't start hyping up DTT to the poor animal.):h

I don't care who ya are......... that's funny right thare.

Burner,

I didn't get pointers from anyone on this twin kit, I believe that Clint's Truck ran a turbo under the truck which I am not doing.

Stevan K,
I have to apologize, maybe you did not reverse engineer anything, maybe it is just a coincidence that the thread and pictures with specs of our 27"sq C-1 piston posted in NOV 03 ( alittle over a year ago) looks amazingly similar to the ones you engineered. I guess your definition of reverse engineering is a little like "what is is"

http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14975&page=6&pp=10

http://forum.thedieselpage.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=005494

These are the photos posted by Dave Gamble.


As for boring the case for C3 & C4, that's all yours, I'll stay way away from that.

It really amazes me that so many customers pay for these Allisons that "don't hold" and never complain even after paying avery sizeable price.
What's really amazing is they even purchase additional ones for other trucks.

Yes, we have been involved in Allisons for three years. We, didn't have the luxury of someone else's development to look back at, unlike some.

If you have not been embarrassed by your dad by now, you will never be.

Have a nice day,
Smoop

Well,alrighty then ,that solves that ,I think :o

Well,alrighty then ,that solves that ,I think :o):h Yup.... sure does):h

Manoman, if you want to read posts by grown men acting like little kids, you read transmission threads. "I thought it up FIRST! Nay nay nay....."

If you can cut through all the BS, you might get some useful info.....but you'd need a really big knife.

Tom http://dieselplace.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107

As we all know........ Talk/hype is cheap. This holding issue will be resolved come early spring. However, long-term effects may take some time. We'll cross that bridge when we get there.:rolleyes: Long Bridge.......

Manoman, if you want to read posts by grown men acting like little kids, you read transmission threads. "I thought it up FIRST! Nay nay nay....."

If you can cut through all the BS, you might get some useful info.....but you'd need a really big knife.

Tom http://dieselplace.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107
I think a shovel would work better:D

No kidding. Kinda tough for to choose which way to go.

Well, I just want to see a twin set up that doesn't have a turbo under the truck. Can you say "Water Logged Engine" Or, we can just put in the bed right? John

Joe, by showing the pictures you just confirmed what we have been saying all along. Joe this may have fooled some but not DTT or a good technician or builder. Allison transmission lesson 101.

Mike L and some of you other guys out there building these units take a good look at OEM C1 piston, take a look at the balance piston, how does oil get under the C1 balance piston. Take a look at where the inner seal is in the inboard C1 piston. Look really close because if you are not paying attention you will miss it.

You will find that if you took the C1 balance piston and threw it in the garbage your transmission would not function any differently before and after. That is where you went wrong Joe. You designed a new piston eliminating the C1 balance piston when in reality if you understood the function of the C1 balance piston you would have realised that you could have simply omitted the OEM C1 balance piston and achieved the same thing. Its nice to have a new piston I guess, but it does not offer any mechanical advantage over the OEM one because the diameter no larger.

No one is disputing that the DTT C3 & C4 have more holding capacity. Also not being disputed is that DTT is making a completely different C2 clutch piston and you are not.

What you are trying to say is that your C1 piston is the same as DTT’s yet you have not modified the C2 clutch piston to accommodate the larger C1 Clutch housing and Clutch piston. So basically no portion of our C1 system will physical fit into an OEM C2 piston.

Heck Joe, our C1 clutch piston by itself will not even fit into an OEM C2 piston. Guys I think I know now why their C2 aren’t holding, they were thrown in the garbage to make room for the C1 piston. Guys, I will try and get Bill to do a pictorial for you to help properly explain. Mike L and the others out there that build these units look at the oem piston, you can see it for yourself.

Cool, the war room is back....

Yikes, that is going to leave a mark...:eek:

Yikes, that is going to leave a mark...:eek:You think?:rolleyes:

But at least the innards of everyone's products are on display and we can see what is what. And where the $$$ are spent.

I would like to know what the OEM core will hold and what the "revised" core will hold? The dang things have got to crack at some point?

And I thought this thread got hijacked.:rolleyes: ):h Tests will be fourth coming(did yawl get it?):h ) and fifth coming.:D I have allready started my converter tests as of now. I will be receiving a DTT upgrade soon and I will install this kit in trippins truck with the purpose of destroying it. I told this to Stephan and he said go for it.

But what did Guy say? Or was he slobbering at the thought? Lucky freakin devils, ya all are.....

Tom

He won't know about it until the next time he flies out of town and leaves his truck with Mike :D

I find this very interesting.........:ro)

Keep the info coming...............it really is cool to see the different argumants as to why one is better than the other.............

Juice, where are those grips.........Trippin might need them..........):h

I will be receiving a DTT upgrade soon and I will install this kit in trippins truck with the purpose of destroying it. I told this to Stephan and he said go for it.
:eek: Your going to what? :eek:


That's it I'm taking a cab from home to the airport from now on!):h

I'm thinking after all the testing is done I will probably end up with a TTS converter, a DTT machined case and clutches, an ATS Co-Pilot and one tired transmission Guy, I mean Mike. :eek:

I like all the mods to give us more holding power, however I still haven't seen the long list of failed trannys that has caused this tranny up grade issue. If there is a list that is reportable "I would like to see it". I drive my Suncoast Level 3 around all day long "and not gentle like" with 8400lb's of dually on top of it, and a TTS Extreme with 4.10 gears. Where's the issue with the trannys that is so bad it warrants this level of reconstruction and debate. John

One thing that we can all be sure off, regardless of what happens...Those in the business are pushing the envelope clear off the table. You truly will see some leaps and bounds in the transmission world here folks. Ignore the pissing matches and stay on the look out for some damn good stuff coming from all corners.

I have been on the phone with Stefen and Bill K. and talked techy stuff, those guys know whats going on. So does Joe, Clint and Steve Cole. Same cat, different way to skin it. Quite possibly some of the brightest minds in the business here folks, buckle up and hold on tight.....

Eric, you're right on the money. :ro)

I'll agree 100%. :D




Burner--------------------->:D

Juice, where are those grips.........Trippin might need them..........):h
I was going to send Trippin an invoice for Juicegrip(TM) certification, A Certificate of Authenticity and my Engraved Juicegrips(TM) in a commemorative display case.

But....I decided not to send the invoice because very soon Guy will have the same transmission that I have been 'Trippin' out on.):h

Guy..... 'Got Juice?' on the new transmission yet?:ro)

Keep us posted!

LOL

I was going to send Trippin an invoice for Juicegrip(TM) certification, A Certificate of Authenticity and my Engraved Juicegrips(TM) in a commemorative display case.

But....I decided not to send the invoice because very soon Guy will have the same transmission that I have been 'Trippin' out on.):h

Guy..... 'Got Juice?' on the new transmission yet?:ro)

Keep us posted!

LOL
ROTFLMAO ):h

That poor Cat,skinned so many times over :(

You will find that if you took the C1 balance piston and threw it in the garbage your transmission would not function any differently before and after. That is where you went wrong Joe. You designed a new piston eliminating the C1 balance piston when in reality if you understood the function of the C1 balance piston you would have realised that you could have simply omitted the OEM C1 balance piston and achieved the same thing. Its nice to have a new piston I guess, but it does not offer any mechanical advantage over the OEM one because the diameter no larger.

No one is disputing that the DTT C3 & C4 have more holding capacity. Also not being disputed is that DTT is making a completely different C2 clutch piston and you are not.

What you are trying to say is that your C1 piston is the same as DTT’s yet you have not modified the C2 clutch piston to accommodate the larger C1 Clutch housing and Clutch piston. So basically no portion of our C1 system will physical fit into an OEM C2 piston.


Just stating facts here so I don't want everyone to jump all over me.....

Stefan, looking at the pictures Joe posted you would really have no way to know if he elimintaed the balance piston or not, unless the piston would not fit inside the C2 housing. Also, looking at the pictures it is obvious that he created more clamping force as surface area was increased....drastically. I don't beleive this C1 piston pictured above will fit inside the OEM C2 either which means he would have had to modify the C2 piston to accomodate it......I guess I don't understand what it is you were trying to say.

I would be more interested in seeing the C3 and C4 stuff myself.....C3 seems like more of a weak point to me...but what do I know?

I'm always willing to learn about this stuff...so don't include me in the pissing match....

I'm thinking after all the testing is done I will probably end up with a TTS converter, a DTT machined case and clutches, an ATS Co-Pilot and one tired transmission Guy, I mean Mike. :eek:Guy...you aren't going to be using the upgrades Steve has in testing....and if you aren't the one testing it, who is...I thought your truck was the official West Coast Test Rat........


We also showed our new transmission upgrade for those of you wanting to go beyond what the original design of the Transgo Kit was for. It's still being tested and should be released in March or sooner. So far testing is going good and it looks like it should be good for 700 RWHP when used with our multi-plate converter.
How about an update Steve....how's the testing going?

Guy...you aren't going to be using the upgrades Steve has in testing....and if you aren't the one testing it, who is...I thought your truck was the official West Coast Test Rat........

How about an update Steve....how's the testing going?
Dipper, Dipper, Dipper,
You should know by now that I test everything I can get my hands on.
Tunes, Transmissions, Converters, Traction devices, Nitrous, from many different companies. :D

Keep an eye on my sig and you will always be up to date on (IMHO) the best products that have been released to the public for sale.

Stevan K.

OK I didn't know we needed to illustrate you can't put a 13" tire on a 15" wheel, but in your case we will. Here is the rest of the story.



Mike, what Stevan is trying to tell you about C1 balance oil is that he dicovered that C1 uses lube oil not apply oil like the C2. Eureka!

" You designed a new piston eliminating the C1 balance piston when in reality if you understood the function of the C1 balance piston you would have realised that you could have simply omitted the OEM C1 balance piston and achieved the same thing" What the heck is that supposed to mean? Stevan,
I believe that the people reading this comprehend and understand what they read, so your smoke & mirrors doesn't work. We understood the C1 system long before you evened owned a D-max and that is why we DID eliminate the C1 balance piston.

No one disputes your C3 & C4 holding capacity because you havn't proved that they have any.

"I guess, but it does not offer any mechanical advantage over the OEM because the diamater no larger" If 7 is not larger than 6 then canadian math must be different.

If your C2's arn't holding, that;s your problem, Go Figure.
http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16376

Smoop

I am lost. Who has the better tranny upgrade again?

I am lost. Who has the better tranny upgrade again?
FORD!):h

So who is working on an adapter to stick a torqushift behind my truck?:confused: I want to be able to pass trucks even though I have a much heavier trailer just like in the commercials:(

That's just sick.....sick man, sick.-:t

Speaking of Xerox..... Ya think Ford tried that with their 5r100 or whatever the heck it is? They got the 'base' right....but no design thought after that. I have yet to see a new Ford trans hold any real power for long. Oh, real power is 400 RWHP, minimumummumm.


Burner--------------> :D

Burner,

We have finished our initial 5R110 program, but I assure you there are no similarties to the Allison. Allison is definitly a superior trans, but I'm impressed with a lot of qualities of the 5R110. I would have to say our test truck is close to 425-450 RWHP ( we will have precise figures shortly) The shifts are crisp ( tire barking) but this trans is using mechnical diodes (one way clutch) where as the Allison shifts clutch to clutch. The Allison wins for just brute strength.
Smoop;)

well you guys know where I stand on all of this.........................80k on one alliison that been installed in two different trucks and abused says alot for Suncoasts ability to build a great tranny..............Im sure all of the parties above are trying to offer a great product.........The one I have experience with is the Suncoast and it has exceded all of my expectations. To all interested in tranny upgrades do your homework make your choice and live with the consequences...........hopefully your experience will be as good as mine has been with my Suncoast

Well said David.

All I can say about Davids '500 RWHP' truck is good. That trans is..... well, it's just wicked. Easy on the pedal and it's smooth, stomp it and it shifts "click, click, click."

....... David, sorry about the 40 MPH kick by Sabb tire .... I don't think the tires spun more than 15 times or so.):h



Burner-------------------> :D

Amen SDaver. Well Said.

So I guess we need to start getting stories from all the "BIG HP" trucks with transmissions to find out who likes what and "WHY???".... Post awaited on this one..

So I guess we need to start getting stories from all the "BIG HP" trucks with transmissions to find out who likes what and "WHY???".... Post awaited on this one..
What qualifies as "Big HP"?

Well I guess that would depend on who you talk to. But to answer your question, I would say anything more than the holding capacity of the Allison and up... So 400+ maybe or more....:D

Well I guess that would depend on who you talk to. But to answer your question, I would say anything more than the holding capacity of the Allison and up... So 400+ maybe or more....:D
What made you choose "DTT Trans coming soon!!" ?

I did some homework which included a lot of reading and time on the phone talking to various users of other transmissions and the DTT and after all that, this was my decision.

Well I guess that would depend on who you talk to. But to answer your question, I would say anything more than the holding capacity of the Allison and up... So 400+ maybe or more....:D

I know my Suncoast holds 342 more than that. That big enough?
:cool:

Stage I or II?

What qualifies as "Big HP"?Not me.... 242RWHP):h ):h ):h ):h

Joe, I could say so much after looking at your pictures but it would serve no purpose. I know it is not the same and it would give you the information you need to potentially make it the same.

What I will say is this, I agree with sdaver, a customer has to feel confident that the vendor he chooses is giving him the best advice and product available at the time of their transaction. I cannot elaborate on Joe having these parts for two years as he claims and not making them available to his technicians or customers wanting the best.

I can only refer to our customer base, when they call our shop asking for advice, they rely on our transmission expertise and advice as they don’t know anything about transmissions, they have to rely on us to be truthful and honest. That is all anyone can do when out of their own element. It is up to us as professionals to advise properly based on the products we handle, design and have available for them. I cannot speak for the other after market but our customers like to do the job once.

Our customers whether near or far from our DTT build shop deserve the same quality service and products whether they come directly to us or go to our recommended installer. Holding back products unless they come to DTT head office shop is absurd unless you intentionally want customer’s guys to bypass your supporting vendors. Do you honestly think we would waste our time and R&D money if these transmissions were holding with what was available on the market.

Unless I have this all-wrong Joe, your dealers have had access to your C1 and C2 parts since 2003 and either your customers were too cheap to buy them or your dealers never felt it necessary to offer these parts to their customers? Those of you that have gone to Joe know the truth.

Not me.... 242RWHP):h ):h ):h ):h
LIAR LIAR!!!:D We know better...

Juice........... You + twins = troubbbblblble
Wrong.........You + twins + new and improved Juice Grips = troubbbble.):h

To my knowledge up until just a week or so ago the biggest DIY or dealer kit from Suncoast was the Stage III which I have been running successfully for over 10K miles..........:D

In fact all of the C1/C2 mods from SunCoast were in house only......:( .....I know I wanted the Stage 4 or 5 parts for my tranny and could not get them unless I wanted to send my tranny to Suncoast as a core for another one as a swap.............

Since I was more than capable of doing the install myself, I chose too stay with the Stage III Kit..........

T:cool: NY

Interesting enough, I chose DTT as much as they chose me. They came to me because of my lust for more HP(They have watched both runs over 500) and their desire for someone to run the sht out of their transmission. I came to them because I watched ATS trucks... Suncoast Trucks and DTT trucks at Dragraces and at Pulls.

I Chose DTT for their reputation as innovators. For a company to take a POS 727 tranny with a bolt in overdrive perform reliably I knew they would not let me down with the Allison.(Besides the Billet Shafts for the dodge, Accumulator pistons and all that stuff... talk about a drool factor you never ever see once installed)

Finally I called their Customers ... none had buyers remorse.... some wished they had done a DTT initially instead of wasting money (on what or who's i do not know) 96%.
96% had no hesitation about answering YES to the question of "if you had to do it all over again.... what tranny would you choose?" John T and Sly Put it to me best: It's your money.... where do you feel the most comfortable parting with it?

Ya, I whore my truck out (some say this and they would be correct too) BUT when i do it is on MY TERMS unless i totally trust someone with my truck. So in went the DTT after the Transgo Debacle (my fault big power big 10PSI launches and I tow... I sh you guys not, the loads this thing has pulled dodging scales...nevermind) Bill told me I had to make the trans go last for 7 months.... when i called him in 6 months... He immediately told me i was screwing with his timetable (on the Allison Program)

To their Credit (certainly not mine) I limped my truck in to Vancouver 11 hours(literally ) and Bill's Crew put in an AWESOME effort on their time off on a weekend (they were booked solid that whole week) to prep a new allison, rip mine out, swap convertors , pressure test trans, install to truck, road test truck for 1 hour and guess what? Their install crew worked 7 extra hours (at regular shop rate) and we hit a snag. Vinnie drove 2 hours out of his way to get me to my sisters house (taking his time out from his family) to make things right.
The next day I get to the shop and at 9:00 AM ... my truck is ready to go. Something about a 2Cent part...

Now, they could have said nope, gonna have to lay you up for another 3 days, but they gave up their family time freely.... something i don't take lightly..... and they did right by me. That's a level of service I can live with.

I did some homework which included a lot of reading and time on the phone talking to various users of other transmissions and the DTT and after all that, this was my decision.
Care to elaborate on what specifically made you choose DTT (a newcomer) over an ATS or Suncoast (both time tested at this point)? By no means do I think you made a bad decision... I'm just interested to know why you've chosen them.

I take it that all was well?

Hey, there's nothing a blue wrench and a hammer can't fix.:ro) ):h

Sounds like they were there to 'Get'er done' and not mess around. You really don't know about that kind of dedication until you're there.

The best customer you have is the one that doesn't come back, customers that don't have problems.;)


Burner------------------------>:D

Care to elaborate on what specifically made you choose DTT (a newcomer) over an ATS or Suncoast (both time tested at this point)? By no means do I think you made a bad decision... I'm just interested to know why you've chosen them.
Well one of the reasons is actually what you stated, DTT is a newcomer. I like to get in on the ground floor sometimes and be part of a new trend. I talked to alot of people about this and got various responses about why they liked and did not like the trans they choose and what they would do if they could do it again. I talked to 3 people who have the ATS and they are not happy with it at all, say it shifts terrible and pops from time to time. I talked to 10 people who have the Suncoast, and from only 2 people did I get praises. The other 8 have had issues from small stuff to complete failure. DTT is a simple design and simplicity is usually the answer to complicated problems. After reading about how strong the kit is and the shift timing and piston design, I think that set me in the direction that I wanted to go. So, I have chosen them for 1 simple reason.

1) I just want to be like Juice, he is my hero....:D ):h


But really, trust me I will be the first person to jump back on the board and tell you whether I think it is junk or it is an awesome transmission... I have never been one to keep my opinion numb from anyone else... So with that, when I get mine and get it installed then I will be able to post what I think and how I feel about the decision that I have made. And if I am unhappy all will know and like wise if I am satisfied......;)

So, I have chosen them for 1 simple reason.

1) I just want to be like Juice, he is my hero....:D ):h


:eek: ):h Oh man....Now THAT is funny ):h ):h

Where are all these Suncoast failures?

The only failures I have seen are those that chose to underbuild or assembled incorrectly.

What were the "small" issues? ( other then the big VA box shifting)

I am lost now....

I've lost accurate count, but the ~20-25 of these that I have done, I havent had anybody unhappy.. Not to the point of not doing it again at least:confused:

[? Those of you that have gone to Joe know the truth.[/QUOTE]
Stevan,

I was wondering how you would handle the photos. As usual you side-stepped.

I'll go with that. I think what you really mean is that all of the Allison owners should have patiently waited for 4 years until the transmission god from the north decided to bless you with his divine powers.

Just like the Dodge and Ford products, you jumped on the train after it had already left the station.

So by your own words, do I understand that the guy that wants to work own his own truck can purchase your parts himself and do his own installs? Or will he be confined to one of your"authorized, trained, installers"

And just to be perfectly clear: I do not believe nor have I stated that you don't produce a good product. I have my doubts that you posess the self-confidence to be able to say that to anyone. From the day of your entrance into the market you have be-rated, & poor mouthed, any person or company that dared to be in the same field.

Stevan, I don't pretend that I think of myself as the pinnacle of transmission knowledge. I'll let my customers and peers determine that. I respect your dad's talent in the transmission field, but I will not sit quietly by while you BS the ones that don't know the difference.
Smoop

80% unsatisfied rate sounds a bit high to me.

1) I just want to be like Juice, he is my hero....:D ):h
O SCensored .... LOL you're not gonna start blowing turbos now are you? Juicegrip(TM) Certification is serious business:eek: besides they are a BCensored to change):h


But really, trust me I will be the first person to jump back on the board and tell you whether I think it is junk or it is an awesome transmission... I have never been one to keep my opinion numb from anyone else... So with that, when I get mine and get it installed then I will be able to post what I think and how I feel about the decision that I have made. And if I am unhappy all will know and like wise if I am satisfied......;)
Trippin's going to have his soon, I'm having mine done soon (Level2)
It's great that there will be more experiences out there other than mine!:ro)

An Upgraded Tranny Failure Survey Might Be A Good Idea
List Tune/tunes A Guy Was Running
What Kind Of Tranny Mods And By Who
Mlieage On It Prior To Failure (upgraded One)
What The Symptoms Were
What Was Done To Correct The Problem
What Was Putin...another Of The Same Brand Or Sumthin New
Regrets On Either
Im Sure Some Of That Info Gathered Would Be Good Reading...any Thoughts?

Well, I think a survey would be great, but bear in mind one or two companies may have acouple of hundred entries and one company has only 3 or 4 under their belt, do you think this might produce a true reflection? If I had only built 1
and it worked I guess I would be 100%

Smoop's words of wisdom: "The beginning of understanding begins when one can say " I don't understand". The advantage ( and maybe the only one):rolleyes: to growing older is that you come to the understanding that things like trucks and such are just accessories on the options of life.

bye now,
smoop

I Totaly Agree, And Everybody Else Would Too, That That Would Have To Be Taken Into Consideration...the Info Is All That I Am After, Not The Numbers.

Where are all these Suncoast failures?

The only failures I have seen are those that chose to underbuild or assembled incorrectly.

What were the "small" issues? ( other then the big VA box shifting)

I am lost now....

I've lost accurate count, but the ~20-25 of these that I have done, I havent had anybody unhappy.. Not to the point of not doing it again at least:confused:
Did MurraytheCop ever get his problems sorted out?

Tony, his problems were not in the trans. They were there before I went into it the first tim ( I found out after the fact from him) and they were there after we did the L V.. I reprogramed a stock ECM and TCM for him as was gonna try that out.. I dont know the outcome as I know that his wife recently had a baby ( 4-6 weeks ago now) and I dont know how much time he has spent playing with it. Either way, I am 100% convinced his problem isnt in the trans...may not even be in the truck?

Well, what's it gonn'a be? To poll or not to poll? :confused:

On the numbers, I will agree with Joe. You cannot compare 100 ATS, 200 SunCoasts (http://www.suncoastconverters.com) and 50 B&M's to 5 or 6 DTT's.




Burner--------------------->:D

Just so we are all clear on this. I'm very happy with my ATS. I would buy it again and I still recommend them. :D

Mike L. and I are testing the DTT so that Mike will be able to offer his customers an informed point of view regarding all the different trans mods available.

You gotta love Mike's ambition! :eek:

Mike L. and I are testing the DTT so that Mike will be able to offer his customers an informed point of view regarding all the different trans mods available.

You gotta love Mike's ambition! :eek:

Ambition/ Dedication to his Profession:ro)

Trippin's Willingness to try something different:ro)

Poll would serve to be useless as there is too many variables, but I am all for it. In fact, I'll start it.

poll (http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?p=464402#post464402)

Hey Guys,

I am going to sit on the bottom of the ocean down Mexico way for about a week. I'll be looking at your poll when I get back. Stevan, be nice while I'm gone.;)
Smoop

Hey, its nice and quite down there.:rolleyes:

I ever make it down to your shop your going to have to point me in the direction of some nice spots to blow bubbles. Eventually wana hit some of the caves down there again......

Smoop's words of wisdom: "The beginning of understanding begins when one can say " I don't understand". The advantage ( and maybe the only one):rolleyes: to growing older is that you come to the understanding that things like trucks and such are just accessories on the options of life.
smoop
Here is a better one

"People in glass houses should not throw stones!"

I knew that one would go right over your head.:cool:
smoop

I knew that one would go right over your head.:cool:
smoop
EVERY TURN AND DECISION HAS ITS OWN CONSEQUENCES...GOOD AND BAD

You can lead a horse to water, but it takes a pencil to be sharpened.

Originally Posted by smoop

Smoop's words of wisdom: "The beginning of understanding begins when one can say " I don't understand". The advantage ( and maybe the only one) to growing older is that you come to the understanding that things like trucks and such are just accessories on the options of life.
smoop


Perception is percptecion...... get it.


Ok, try this on....












Somops wrods of wdisom: "Teh bgeininng of uersdnadnig bigens wehn one can say " I dno't udernstnad". The atvadnage (and mbaye the only one) to gwornig older is taht you cmoe to the unstnading that tinhgs like tkurcks and scuh are just asscecroies on the opoitns of life.






..... notice anything? Did anyoe have trouble reading the second quote?

Yes, all of the letters are there. However, most are misspelled and yet it still reads. Perception is perception. Both quotes are the same, mean the same and get the point accross...yet one is whacked. I think that the transmission building is approached in the same way. Just like the two quotes they convey a statement. The means justifies the ends.



Burner--------------------->:D

Richard

What are you smoking my friend? ):h Pass it around. :cool:

Someone has way too much time on his hands to go through all that stuff....

Somebody please hijack this thread.

Ahhhh a little philosphy on a friday night.

how much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could build trannies?

There once was a man from nantuket..... err no.... better not

There once was a girl from Regina who had a ..... err no.. even worse.

ok.

Thread now Hijacked

So you want highjacked, eh?.....................


Three guys need a place to crash for the night. They find a motel that has thirty dollar rooms. They're cheap so they only got one room, each paying ten dollars. Just an hour after they set-in the manager called the room and said tuesday is five dollars off, he over charged them and would return it shortly. A few minutes later the bellhop shows up with the five bucks. The guy that opens the door thinks about splitting five bucks three ways and gives the hop a two dollar tip. ....... Ok, so everyone got a dollar back wich means they each paid nine bucks or a total of twenty seven dollars. And the bellhop got two dollars which made the total twenty nine dollars........ where is the other dollar?:confused:

So you want highjacked, eh?.....................


Three guys need a place to crash for the night. They find a motel that has thirty dollar rooms. They're cheap so they only got one room, each paying ten dollars. Just an hour after they set-in the manager called the room and said tuesday is five dollars off, he over charged them and would return it shortly. A few minutes later the bellhop shows up with the five bucks. The guy that opens the door thinks about splitting five bucks three ways and gives the hop a two dollar tip. ....... Ok, so everyone got a dollar back wich means they each paid nine bucks or a total of twenty seven dollars. And the bellhop got two dollars which made the total twenty nine dollars........ where is the other dollar?:confused:


It was given to the Crack Whore in the lobby because that's the quality of the establishment you get for triple dude occupancy for 30 dollars a nite,25 on Tuesday!

You want clean sheets ? :D

I bet they all shared the same bed............who was the meat in that sandwich -:t -:t -:t -:t -:t

T ):h NY

Well one of the reasons is actually what you stated, DTT is a newcomer. I like to get in on the ground floor sometimes and be part of a new trend. I talked to alot of people about this and got various responses about why they liked and did not like the trans they choose and what they would do if they could do it again. I talked to 3 people who have the ATS and they are not happy with it at all, say it shifts terrible and pops from time to time. I talked to 10 people who have the Suncoast, and from only 2 people did I get praises. The other 8 have had issues from small stuff to complete failure. DTT is a simple design and simplicity is usually the answer to complicated problems. After reading about how strong the kit is and the shift timing and piston design, I think that set me in the direction that I wanted to go. So, I have chosen them for 1 simple reason.

1) I just want to be like Juice, he is my hero....:D ):h


But really, trust me I will be the first person to jump back on the board and tell you whether I think it is junk or it is an awesome transmission... I have never been one to keep my opinion numb from anyone else... So with that, when I get mine and get it installed then I will be able to post what I think and how I feel about the decision that I have made. And if I am unhappy all will know and like wise if I am satisfied......;) GMC, Seems the poll seem to prove your post for what it was (BS). A Texas size pile. All these issues? lets hear some specifics. I challenge you too produce authenicated facts to back up your BS. There is one other thing that seems to puzzle me . Based on your homepage why would one solicite and postvender status (in bold print)for a product ones customers are not happy with? You may want to change that, I have.
I can verify every Allison purchase in whatever area, so go for it.
"But really, trust me." Gimme a break.
Smoop

On second thought, that may not be all Texas BS, I detect the oder of some of that Canadian "Mad Cow" mixed in.

Smoop;)

Sorry guys, but I had to solve that one.....


$30-5=25..............$8.33/ea
$3 returned.............1.00/ea
$2 tip.....................0.67/ea
----------------------------
total...................$10.00/ea


Tom (yeah, so I'm nuts) :rolleyes:

On second thought, that may not be all Texas BS, I detect the oder of some of that Canadian "Mad Cow" mixed in.

Smoop;)
Joe, if thats directed towards me, sorry for telling the truth. The post Eric started said to explain, so i did..............maybe should have sugarcoated it and brushed it under the carpet, which happens here alot.

Did i bash your company........no, did i say i would never buy from you again.......no, did i say i would never recommend your trans to anyone........no. I would have expected alot more sense from an elder like you. The bickering you do on here, with other vendors makes me shake my head, i'm half your age and have more business sense than to talk like that and bash my competition, let alone on the internet.

If you want maybe i should tell all the details of the dispute between my installer and you, and make a poll of it:eek: Naw, it will never work as its your word against his word, and you've got to many members here hanging close to your rear end with puckered up lips. Its done and over and i won't make the mistake again.

Oh ya, how many of you guys that upgraded to the stage 5 single sided clutches from the stage 4 paid for that???? Joe you've got all the paper work, maybe you can enlighten us??? I know i didn't pay a cent for the upgrade, and i'm not the only one. Mackin, and Daver, if i remember you guys had to pay for that upgrade, who else had to pay.........why, you guys have more followers on here than a certain "canadian mad cow" :D

One last thought, how many trannies has Buck been through :eek: Can you count them on both hands or will you need your toes to count that high. I'm off to plow snow(hope my trans doesn't give out):h ) and make some money for a different trans this spring :p

Jeremy,

No, thatwas not directed towards you. The "mad cows" are way west of you. But since you want to air dirty linen here it is. Our relationship terminated when I sent you a new torque converter at no charge and the one it replaced was not and has not been returned. The response I got was "my installer decided to keep it for his own truck" Evidently he thought it was OK $1295.00 + $200 coreUS, You violated the trust. not I. You experienced an electrical problem (solenoid Im told) and chose to ignore it. Once the trust I extended was trashed our relationship ended. No, all transactions were between you and I, not your installer. No, there will not be any transactions between you or your installer and myself. period. Lets see your trans failed in July and you are still plowing with it? Either your math or your anatomy is in about the same shape as your ethics.

Why don't you let Buck, Daver, & Mackin speak for themselves.

Smoop

........ I know what Buck is running. ):h



This one........ (http://www.suncoastconverters.com/)

I’ll honestly say I don't think you can build a bulletproof Allison. There. Done.

You give someone a tranny that can hold 500HP and they'll find a way to make more. Same trend continues... you raise the bar; they raise the power they can make. That inspires innovation.

I personally know of trannies built by the current two high-dollar Allison aftermarket companies that have failed. BFD. If you beat on it hard enough it will break. These things aren’t indestructible. If you throw enough power at something you can break it. What matters is that the vendor will work to improve the product for the better of everyone. It’s a continuing cycle.

has a suncoast ever failed under LOTS (ridiculous) of power? yes. what about an ATS? Yes. What about a trans-go kit? Yes. What does this all mean? Our trucks have the potential to make lots of power, which is a great thing!

I don't care if people air their dirty laundry but really where does it get us? Nowhere...

Innovation in the key thing. Someone makes it, and then someone breaks it. Then the person that made it goes back and makes it better the next time. Competition only encourages this. This benefits the consumer and I LIKE THAT as it helps all of us Allison enthusiasts.

i can garantee that buck has nothing bad to say about joe and suncoast,i will be calling him shortly to let him reply aswell.funnything is buck did go through some tranny issues but was pushing the power limit as was i,funny thing is my first suncoast level 4 never failed,until i broke the flexplate and fylwheel,i called joe and he told me congradulations ,thats the first one i have heard of.i told him my tq con was beat up some to,he told me what to try for the tq and helped me find a new flex plate and even shipped me new bolts free of charge.never had an issue always excellent service. and not to get in this but the suncoast tranny,joes newest tranny design is in my truck,the one that has made the 11.4 runs and has made over 700 hp many times with no correction factor at all.of course thats a different story.its a shame this place is becomming more and more like the dieselpage each and every day,i only hope the muddslinging doesnt hurt this site like the page.sorry for the rant nick

its a shame this place is becomming more and more like the dieselpage each and every day,i only hope the muddslinging doesnt hurt this site like the page.sorry for the rant nick
Funny thing, it only seems to happen in the Allison threads.......

I'm glad guys are so passionate about what they sell, it ends up making a better product, if you ask me; but if you want to see who's best, namecalling isn't it....prove it on the street and at the track.

Tom :eek:

Well said dpower. Can someone hold me now i'm gettin ascared.

Jeremy,

No, thatwas not directed towards you. The "mad cows" are way west of you. But since you want to air dirty linen here it is. Our relationship terminated when I sent you a new torque converter at no charge and the one it replaced was not and has not been returned. The response I got was "my installer decided to keep it for his own truck" Evidently he thought it was OK $1295.00 + $200 coreUS, You violated the trust. not I. You experienced an electrical problem (solenoid Im told) and chose to ignore it. Once the trust I extended was trashed our relationship ended. No, all transactions were between you and I, not your installer. No, there will not be any transactions between you or your installer and myself. period. Lets see your trans failed in July and you are still plowing with it? Either your math or your anatomy is in about the same shape as your ethics.

Why don't you let Buck speak for himself

SmoopJoe, i agree, the converter was not sent back. You required me to send you the rotating assembly back and the old converter. I sent the rotating assembly back, and yes you are correct i did not send the converter back. You are correct again, my installer wanted my old converter for his truck. I mentioned that to you back 2 Novembers or Decembers ago when you sent it, that this is what he wanted to do, you told me you wanted to talk to him. As far as i new, he was trying to get a hold of you and the issue would be resolved. If the dealings were between you and me, like you say, why then did you not contact me????

To me it sounded like it would be something that could be done. He was to contact you about trading your converter for the first time he re and re my trans, which by the way was 2 months down the road(i had no dealings on that deal, that was all you and Greg. I was in the middle of a move and my truck got re and re'd and i got the call the truck was ready. I asked how much i owed, and he said Joe is taking care of it. I phoned you and commented on your overnighting of parts to get my truck up and runnng again. Very appreciative).

He said he tried to contact you,but you never returned the calls, and you say you called him, but he never returned the calls. I don't know whos telling me the truth as it had nothing to do with me, other than my trans. The original agreement was that you would pay for the re and re. 2 months down the road he has still not settled up, and from my side of the fence, if i was left messages about getting paid, i would return the calls. If i had to side with anybody, it would be my installer, but i remain to be neutral somewhat.

Maybe i should have stayed ontop of you guys and your telephone tag(now that i think of it Greg did phone you while i was there, but had to leave a message......i don't know if you called back or not). I didn't and didn't have contact with my trans guy again, until this July. I would have thought if there was a problem, i should have been notified and maybe a resolution could have been resolved. Again, no communication was made(seems this happens more and more nowadays). If i was out to screw you, then why did i send the rotating assembly back. I remember, i called you to make sure if you had received the rotaing assembly and you said yes, and wanted to talk to Greg about the converter. If you or anyone was to know me, i'm not one to screw people over, and in fact try to help people that are getting screwed over :mad: Maybe a pet pev i have.

Yes you could say i was screwing you over for not sending the converter back(not how i see it), but then again my installer pushed other work off to bring my truck in on priority, and still was not paid up. Who's to say if i sent the converter back to you, you would have ever paid my installer :confused:. I would feel bad that he never got paid, and would take it upon myself to pay what was owed. Yes i stepped in as the arbitrator(sp) and hoped you two professionals would settle it, as i left it somewhat on an equal table. You said you would be willing to do a trade when i originally talked, so i didn't see what the big deal was. The deal was not with me and none of my trans talk was discussed with me, only you and Greg(i am somewhat trans illeterate :D ).

The only time i contacted you was when the trans failed and i asked you what you wanted me to do, and to call after and comment on the speedy parts. Its too bad it went this way, but it did. I like others here brushed it under the carpet, until now. Maybe you've struck a nerve, i don't know. I don't bad mouth any company on line and don't hide behind a computer screen and call names like others here. I'll tell it like it is, and i told the truth(as much as i know), and so have you, obviously theres always 2 sides to the story. Is it a hung jury..........

As far as my trans going south last July, yes my trans is up and running, your not the only one with trans parts to get my truck back up and running. As far as my electrical problem, not unless you talked to Greg(i highly doubt) then you have second hand knowledge. There was alot of problems with it, and we are not sure if it was an electrical, or it was clutch wear causing particles, screwing with the solenoid, and pump. One will never know what really started the problem.

So yes my math and anatomy is just fine thanks. Funny how that hiding behind the computer screen comes up again, real mature Joe, doesn't make you look like a professional in my eyes reading your posts as of late. Why not just do your work and let your product show how good it is, not how you like to spend time showing how you act on the forum, i don't see Clint on here bad mouthing:rolleyes:

If Buck wants to speak up, thats up to him, i'm just pointing out that it was all speculation that Suncoast had any failures at all. I am the only one that spoke up and know of another with several, who else is there that has kept it to themselves :( Don't worry your not the only one with failures, i've heard of your competitors having them too, its mechanical, it will break.

See how thats done Joe, no name calling or childish behavour. Class dismissed.

Now reading what was posted while i wrote my novel, i am not one to mud slingging, but assumed Joes jab was directed towards me, apparently not. My bad, it still would have been under the carpet if it wasn't missunderstood. I responded to Erics thread, and was truthful, no different than what i just wrote. By no means do i want to drag other names in. I'm done, as its long past and over with. Can't fix whats been done, and i have moved on, as has Joe with more customers. Now that my truck is very warm from idling this long, time to go move 12" snow and make some money :ro)

Smoop,

Too Bad So Sad That You Feel That Way...wasnt My Intentions,and Allyou Have To Do Is Go Back And Read. I Was Just Looking For Info On What Amt Of Hp/tuner/stack It Took To Trash Each Guys Tranny, And The Road He Took To Make Sure It Didnt Happen Again....thats It N Thats All. Seems To Me Like Your The "mad Cow" ............dtt Have You Up Late At Night?

Ok, while the purpose of the thread was to try to show you guys what i was running, have DTT Chime in with any information that i can't talk about; not to start a mudslinging contest. I would appreciate it if the topic were to stay somewhat on track so that i don't have request that a moderator lock the thread.

i can garantee that buck has nothing bad to say about joe and suncoast,i will be calling him shortly to let him reply aswell.funnything is buck did go through some tranny issues but was pushing the power limit as was i,funny thing is my first suncoast level 4 never failed,until i broke the flexplate and fylwheel,i called joe and he told me congradulations ,thats the first one i have heard of.i told him my tq con was beat up some to,he told me what to try for the tq and helped me find a new flex plate and even shipped me new bolts free of charge.never had an issue always excellent service. and not to get in this but the suncoast tranny,joes newest tranny design is in my truck,the one that has made the 11.4 runs and has made over 700 hp many times with no correction factor at all.of course thats a different story.its a shame this place is becomming more and more like the dieselpage each and every day,i only hope the muddslinging doesnt hurt this site like the page.sorry for the rant nick

Right on! I normally don’t get into these conversations about trannys. As a matter of fact, I don’t even own an Allison tranny. I was just browsing and came across this thread. I have dodge that ‘s equipped w/ a Sun Coast by choice. I live in North Washington however; my tranny preference is down in Florida.

When I built my truck, I really research the tranny market and after contacting several high performance owners’ across the Nation, my decision was easy… A couple of things that impressed me about Joe and his company were his excellent people skills, customer focus and cost. I have had excellent reliability, performance and success with Joe’s product. I just finished another truck, and needless to say, Suncoast is in that one as well.


I don’t get the chance to say this enough, Thanks Suncoast for the performance !!!!!

Ok, while the purpose of the thread was to try to show you guys what i was running, have DTT Chime in with any information that i can't talk about; not to start a mudslinging contest. I would appreciate it if the topic were to stay somewhat on track so that i don't have request that a moderator lock the thread.good points,i am interested in what the dtt tranny has to offer the market,cant wait until its out and some big hp gets pumped through it,then the dust will have to settle ay

Ok, ok............ no more -:t SCensored .............

Right on! I normally don’t get into these conversations about trannys. As a matter of fact, I don’t even own an Allison tranny. I was just browsing and came across this thread. I have dodge that ‘s equipped w/ a Sun Coast by choice. I live in North Washington however; my tranny preference is down in Florida.

When I built my truck, I really research the tranny market and after contacting several high performance owners’ across the Nation, my decision was easy… A couple of things that impressed me about Joe and his company were his excellent people skills, customer focus and cost. I have had excellent reliability, performance and success with Joe’s product. I just finished another truck, and needless to say, Suncoast is in that one as well.


I don’t get the chance to say this enough, Thanks Suncoast for the performance !!!!!
Hey Bill!
For those that do not know, Bill has a 10 Second CTD (The white one I posted the video of) and is running a Suncoast transmission.

If you ever get the chance to see Bill's truck, or Hoss's Truck (Red Rocket; Mark Harris) run, I highly recommend it.

I'll tip my hat to ya on that one Juice. :)

Right on! I normally don’t get into these conversations about trannys. As a matter of fact, I don’t even own an Allison tranny. I was just browsing and came across this thread. I have dodge that ‘s equipped w/ a Sun Coast by choice. I live in North Washington however; my tranny preference is down in Florida.

When I built my truck, I really research the tranny market and after contacting several high performance owners’ across the Nation, my decision was easy… A couple of things that impressed me about Joe and his company were his excellent people skills, customer focus and cost. I have had excellent reliability, performance and success with Joe’s product. I just finished another truck, and needless to say, Suncoast is in that one as well.


I don’t get the chance to say this enough, Thanks Suncoast for the performance !!!!!

Bill,
LOL):h I still think your selection had something to do with them huge SUNCOAST stickers you have on both sides of your truck.

Opie

This thread has strayed off course and my now removed post certainly didn't help get it back on track so I've removed it and closed the thread.