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P.W.
02-04-2008, 01:10 PM
Is this to much to handle for my 08 Gmc Sierra SLT 2500 hd Crew Cab 4x4 D-max? Family of 5
http://www.forestriverinc.com/nd/floorplanview.asp?name=51&page=sand&series=5thWheels

skiandplay101
02-04-2008, 01:55 PM
You should be good. Get airbags or springs and make sure your tires rated for the weight if you change them

golddigger
02-04-2008, 02:07 PM
Looks like it should be a sweet setup.

shaydog
02-04-2008, 02:22 PM
You will be fine. Maybe get a pyro and boost gauge just for safe measure.

haulin-rv
02-04-2008, 08:42 PM
I would run a dually, thats got an overall length of over 40ft. That a bunch of trailer for a 2500, my concern would be wind and stability more than weight. Look at it this way it the safety of YOUR family.

thejdman04
02-04-2008, 09:01 PM
i agree w/haulin

davey1028
02-04-2008, 09:35 PM
Ran alot more than that with my 2500. Get some air bags please. 80 PSI in rears 60 PSI fronts. Lot of pin weight. Watch your tires.

kasl33
02-04-2008, 11:13 PM
I agree with haulin. Dually's make the corners a lot more stable and a LOT more safe for everybody around you.

shaydog
02-05-2008, 10:28 AM
I would run a dually, thats got an overall length of over 40ft. That a bunch of trailer for a 2500, my concern would be wind and stability more than weight. Look at it this way it the safety of YOUR family.

Well now that you mentioned it, I agree.

bigdaddy650r
02-05-2008, 10:41 AM
Tires!

demaxter
02-05-2008, 01:31 PM
If you decide to stick with a 2500HD, I would recommend upgrading your tires to 265's. My 5th wheel trailer weighs 14,000# and has a pin weight of 2,600# which would load the stock size rear tires nearly to their maximum capacity--not a good idea.

golddigger
02-05-2008, 01:46 PM
Specify load range "E".

dwrat
02-05-2008, 02:16 PM
that most likely will put you above the GVR on the rear axle and that could be a problem in the long run.

Mr Bigblock
02-05-2008, 02:16 PM
Thats a big trailer i got a Fuzion 373 its 38 feet long weight is 12500 empty ibought a new 08 Crew cab Dually for it. i think you way over with a 2500 the dually will give you lots of stability plus look at your states law you may need a class A to pull it i know up here anything over 10000# you need AN A licence.

golddigger
02-05-2008, 03:44 PM
There is no law here on personal vehicles and having a class A. Although with half of the people who pull them or drive RV's there pught to be. Some of them are as long as a semi so they should have some type of licensing.:offtopic:

P.W.
02-05-2008, 06:58 PM
I'm going to go with this Travel Trailer. The fifth wheel is to much for me. What do you think,now?
http://www.forestriverinc.com/nd/floorplanview.asp?name=46&page=sand&series=Ttrailers


John

buildingup
02-05-2008, 08:05 PM
Your going to wish that you went with the 5er...

kasl33
02-05-2008, 08:08 PM
I agree, you will get really annoyed with all the instability of a bumper pull ride compared to a 5er. Plus, you can turn sharper w/ a 5er/gooseneck - your limit is the cab vs. a bumper pull your limit is the rear of the truck.

skiandplay101
02-05-2008, 08:25 PM
I think that one will push your truck around a LOT more than the 5er plus parking will be a lot harder

P.W.
02-05-2008, 08:39 PM
I forgot to tell you guy's that I have hensley arrow hitch. What I like about a travel trailer is, you have the box wide open for bikes,wood ect. Also I won't have all of that pin weight on the truck.

Mr Bigblock
02-05-2008, 08:52 PM
that is just as long as the first one lol.If you want storage for bikes and what not look at a toy hauler. Wow that big the 5ver is the way to go.

Dragrcae247
02-05-2008, 08:52 PM
I have a 36' comfort and have pulled it with both the 2500 ccsb and the 3500 cclb and could not tell much differance. What I can't under stand is if you look at the gvw of the two the 2500 says it will haul 300 more pound in the bed than the 3500. Why I don't know, you would think that the 3500 long bed would haul more but even the brocher says it won't. I hot shot all over the country with the 3500 and have over loaded my truck plenty of times but do run E rated tires (10 ply). The heavyest I have carryied is 34,000 truck , trailer and backhoe. Make sure your trailer brakes are in good shape and brakes on all axles. I tape my plugs to make sure they don't come unpluged.

kasl33
02-06-2008, 11:43 AM
If I took out my 100 gallon fuel tank I would have room for my bike. I put quite a bit of dunnage (wood) in my bed as well as all kinds of nuts & bolts.

Jared Duramax
02-06-2008, 06:03 PM
bumper pulls suck they dont handle wind good and are not very stable i would recommend a 5th wheel as said earlier you will regret not getting a 5th wheel when you have a trailer that big.

ct0218
02-06-2008, 08:36 PM
I have a 36' comfort and have pulled it with both the 2500 ccsb and the 3500 cclb and could not tell much differance. What I can't under stand is if you look at the gvw of the two the 2500 says it will haul 300 more pound in the bed than the 3500. Why I don't know, you would think that the 3500 long bed would haul more but even the brocher says it won't. I hot shot all over the country with the 3500 and have over loaded my truck plenty of times but do run E rated tires (10 ply). The heavyest I have carryied is 34,000 truck , trailer and backhoe. Make sure your trailer brakes are in good shape and brakes on all axles. I tape my plugs to make sure they don't come unpluged.
Are you sure it says you can carry 300 lbs more in the bed? I think it says just the opposite. There is quite a bit more payload capacity in the bed of a 3500.

haulin-rv
02-07-2008, 12:19 AM
I just dragged a new Carriage 35ft 5er to NC and am now heading to Mo with a 37ft. I would rather pull one of these tanks than even 30 ft TT any day. I have pulled a few of the 35-36ft TT's and Hensley or not you would be better off with the 5er or better yet a bit smaller 5er.

P.W.
02-07-2008, 05:59 AM
Have you ever towed with a hensley? We when to the black hills last year with a 30 ft tt and a Nissan Titan (about about 600 miles one way) and i didn't think anything of it, no problems at all. I have never towed a 5er though.


John

2003bigsilverado
02-07-2008, 06:21 AM
I have a 30' TT and not sure if I would want to go much lorger then that unless it was a 5er. Ounce you get to this length the rear over hang gets huge. the trailer wheels are to far forward so that they can make tighter turns but then the back sings way out because of the huge over hang. I want a new trailer in a couple of years and wil probably go with a 5er if I go any bigger then what I have now. I don't have any problems hauling the TT now with my dually and I don't even use a DH just a standard ball ajustable set up.

haulin-rv
02-07-2008, 07:17 AM
Have you ever towed with a hensley? We when to the black hills last year with a 30 ft tt and a Nissan Titan (about about 600 miles one way) and i didn't think anything of it, no problems at all. I have never towed a 5er though.


John

Yes I have. Hensley or not I would not want to be going cross country pulling a 35ft TT with a 2500. Heck I pass on hauling them sometimes now even with my dually (depends on were its going).

yitsock
02-07-2008, 10:00 PM
Go with the 5er over the other one.

I have a 33' 5th wheel and it pulls more stable than some tt's I pulled that were 1/2 the size.

Plus, if you ever have to hook the thing up by yourself you'll thank us! I watch the guys where I store mine take forever to hook up their trailer (or until I come help them).

I put down the tailgate, backup. Get out check tire press, raise the legs and I'm off.

Dragrcae247
02-07-2008, 10:49 PM
Are you sure it says you can carry 300 lbs more in the bed? I think it says just the opposite. There is quite a bit more payload capacity in the bed of a 3500.


When I went to pick up the 07 2500hd I asked about a ccsb 3500. The dealer showed me the comparison and said that it was due to the length of the frames. I didn't think it was right either but he proved me wrong.

ct0218
02-08-2008, 07:28 PM
According to the GM website:
2008 2500 cc, 2wd - GVWR:9200; GAWR:6084; load capacity:3301
2008 3500 cc, 2wd, drw - GVWR:11,400; GAWR:8200; load capacity:4979
The reason for drw is to carry the extra weight, not so that it can carry less...

OldSoldier
02-09-2008, 09:54 AM
According to the GM website:
2008 2500 cc, 2wd - GVWR:9200; GAWR:6084; load capacity:3301
2008 3500 cc, 2wd, drw - GVWR:11,400; GAWR:8200; load capacity:4979
The reason for drw is to carry the extra weight, not so that it can carry less...

Those web sites are confusing and deceiving...that cargo capcity for the 2500HD is with a gas engine...subtract 8/900# for a diesel.

Haulinbass02
02-09-2008, 10:08 AM
Ditto on getting the 5er over a long TT. We just traded in a 34' TT and am glad we did. We got a 39' 5er now and it is 100 times more stable than the TT ever was. It is easier to manuever and only takes a couple of minutes to hook up and go. I towed the TT with a 2500HD and with my 3500 DRW and didn't like the way it towed with either truck.

IMHO, I would look at a 5er, only a little smaller than the one you are looking at. We bought a Legends in that same floorplan as the one you are looking at. Weights are almost the same and the Sandpiper is actually a little longer. I would not tow that 5er with anything other than a 3500 truck. I was going to keep my 2500HD to tow it with but decided against it and am glad I did. It is just way too heavy for a 2500HD I think and I don't think it would lend to a safe towing experience. My 2 cents.