FYI
I put my rig on a cert. scale today to see the differance from my 2500HD. The 2500 in my sig weighed 6720# full of fuel and me.
My dually weighs 8092#, which suprised me :eek:. The GAWR front is 4860# and my actual wt. was 4500#. That doesn't leave much room, although it was still 4500# with my empty, 13,620# T.H. hooked to it, with 3180# of pin wt. (My 2500 wasn't as close to the max wt. on the front). I was 1480# under the max on the rear axle when loaded on the dually, but the gross of 11,400# was near capacity at 11,220#.
Hell, I was over the gross wt. on the 2500 by 1000# and she handled it well. Just wasn't comfortable.

Your dually weight is about right, my old '99 F-350 CC dually 2wd with a 7.3 weighed 7600 with a half tank of fuel and me and my '07.5 CC 4X4 dually with the DMax weighs 7880 with 3/8 tank of fuel, me and my son. These trucks aren't as light as most people think

Captjohn thanks for the info i have not had the chance to weigh my 373 fuzion on the truck yet but i know its going to be really close i think my 373 weighs 200# more. Also I was talking to an MTO officer up here which would be like your DOT and to pull this trailer iwill require a class A licence which is tractor trailer. Well i already have A DZ licence so i will take my single axle dump with the float railer and a Bobcat on it and get that but they dont tell you this stuff at the dealer buying the rv. What was your total weight truck and trailer.I have a 8'6" plow on my truck and i am over 200 KG on my front axle when it is on i cant belive gm wont put a heavier axle on the front,anyways i will have to get it hooked up and do some figuring out.

I don't know how much weight my bedliner added but it's at least 1/4" thick. That stuff cant be light. My weight was full of fuel and me. 165 soaked!:D
Truck w/ Fusion 362, empty water tank, a few drinks, bed and bath linens, 2nd a/c, etc..,
21,712#. Add a Seadoo or 2 quads and 100 gal of water and a couple of passengers and I'll be at or over 23,500#.

oh i forgot tp mention the MTO has no Problem with me pulling doubles is legal as long as the second trialer is under 2800kg its cool if over that you get into brakes as some crap total allowable length is 75 feet im gonna look at a hitch on the back of the Fuzion.

I wonder why the dually is so much heavier. I figured the extra tires and wheels and stuff couldn't be more than 500 lbs....

My '02 was an ext. cab/short bed as opposed to the CC long bed. But I still didn't think it was over 1300#.

the rear end is probably around 300lbs without rims and tires add steel rims and load rated "E" tires maybe 40-50-60lbs each

chassis is thinner in width than a SRW truck maybe different dimensions for the frame rails maybe thicker steel gauge springs are definately heavier

The easiest way to find the EW is to take the cargo capcity off the Tire and Loading Information sticker and subtract it from the GVWR.

the rear end is probably around 300lbs without rims and tires add steel rims and load rated "E" tires maybe 40-50-60lbs each

I wouldn't doubt that one bit. I bet the axle alone weighs 500 lbs.

I don't think there's a differance in the rear ends for the 2500hd, 3500srw hd and 3500 drw hd. Spacers and extra tires on the drw. The drive trains are the same. As for E rated tires, they all come with those. I doubt there's much differance in weight of the thin steel and thick aluminum wheels either. I think the extra 1300+# is the crew cab, long bed, and 2 extra tires.
Remember, I was comparing the dually to an ex. cab, short bed 2500 D/A.

I don't think there's a differance in the rear ends for the 2500hd, 3500srw hd and 3500 drw hd. Spacers and extra tires on the drw. The drive trains are the same. As for E rated tires, they all come with those. I doubt there's much differance in weight of the thin steel and thick aluminum wheels either. I think the extra 1300+# is the crew cab, long bed, and 2 extra tires.
Remember, I was comparing the dually to an ex. cab, short bed 2500 D/A.

There's a big difference in wheels! The extra two tires are probably 100 lbs, the two front spacers probably fifty for both, and I bet the difference in weight on each wheel is 50 lbs.

That comes to exactly 500 lbs (seven wheels). What else is there? I thought the axles were the same too (narrower for a dually?). The bed sides are probably lighter than a SRW.

What else is there? I thought the axles were the same too (narrower for a dually?).

I think the axle length is the same. My bro-inlaw is using some wheels off his old 3/4 ton Dodge on his dually. Granted, it's a dodge, but just an example. They fit but sure looks funny. :D

The bed sides are probably lighter than a SRW.

The NBS Dually's have steel hydroformed bed sides, so I would think they are a bit heavier than a SRW, rather than lighter :think:

Someone else posted (on DP, can't remember who) that they weighed thier CC Dually on the way home from the dealer, with full fuel @ about 7500#
Not sure how much extra options add to the weight, things like the sunroof must be heavy.

:beerchug:

The easiest way to find the EW is to take the cargo capcity off the Tire and Loading Information sticker and subtract it from the GVWR.


This gave me a weight of 7662#. I'm sure that's w/full fuel. I'm 430# over that, minus my weight of 165#, leaves 265# for bed liner, nerf bars and mud guards.
Thanks OS.