: Swapping out mirrors
chevy_9465 01-09-2005, 10:01 PM any body ventured into swapping out mirrors, below is a picture I drew out of what it looks like when I remove the cover, now what I need to know is if I can remove this entire triangular black piece by removing the inner door panel, if I can get that off I think these other mirrors can be made to work with a little southern ingenuity:D
quantum mechanic 01-10-2005, 08:50 AM Hmm.. that mounting hardware's there somewhere. I like your replacements.
The factory mirror's are easy to remove and don't require removing the door panel, just the little triangle panel above the door panel near the dash board and the chunk of foam under it just pulls out. 3 (10mm) nuts and an electrical plug (if so equipped). I have found keeping a pointer magnet and some tape near by helps to keep the nuts from falling down into the door.
chevy_9465 01-10-2005, 07:33 PM thanks for the info guys, i think those mirrors will really make the truck stand out
I'm sure it will, post some pictures.
quantum mechanic 01-11-2005, 12:26 AM could you mention what they cost and where you got them?
chevy_9465 01-11-2005, 08:25 PM sorry, guess i kinda made it sound like i already had them, there a few sets on ebay im gonna bid on, i saw some new ones on there for about $170
bowtie 01-12-2005, 03:54 AM those would look sweet on our trucks let us know if you get them and how they mount up.
countrycoach 01-12-2005, 08:55 AM Actually on a 94 you will have to remove the whole door pannel. Then remove the big piece of foam and there should be three nuts holding the mirror on. Remove those and they should come right off! Good luck, I have replaced my mirrors 3 times! :cool: Just make sure you don't drop the nuts down in the door!
chevy_9465 01-12-2005, 09:53 AM my friend just got a 02' dmax (lucky Censored ),his has just got the normal mirrors but i did some measuring and that triangular piece is about 1" taller and 1" wider, dont know if this would hurt anything or not. guess if i get them and they dont fit i could always sell them to him(by the way i drove his duramax 6 speed last night and, WOW, there really is no comparison, even with the chip my truck dosnt even come close)
Thanks CC. I forgot about '94's being the older style interior. The door panel is still easy to remove to get access to the mirror.
spindrift 01-12-2005, 11:34 AM This is towing mirror information that I pulled off RV.net.
1. Schefenacker TTT-mirror (telescopic travel tow mirror) MSRP $400 - $550. The most expensive replacement mirror I've found. Large, angular style. Incorporates an adjustable spotter mirror into the housing. Main glass is approximately 7" high X 9" wide and the spotter glass is 4.25"h x 3.5"w. Options include electric, heated glass, and LED marker lights and turn signals. These mirrors unextended measure 17.5" out from the vehicle - to a total of 22" - and manually telescope out another 4.5" Mirrors fold in for parking in tight spots or on impact. Available with interchangeable covers.
02-22-03: I received a file from Schefenacker providing dimensions and photos illustrating the mirror's size and extension measurements. Just click here to view the file >>> http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=1368467&uid=779612
PROS: Total extension, size, spotter mirror, lights, individual replacement parts are available.
CONS: Price, requires additional wiring for lights.
Company website: ttt-mirror (http://www.ttt-mirror.com/)
2. Power Vision Mirror (MSRP $439 - $469) - this mirror extends and retracts electrically. These mirrors are available as factory options on '03 GM Pickups. Options include electric and heated glass. These mirrors are not as large as some others with the glass measuring 10.5" wide X 6.5" tall. The passenger side glass is flat so objects in mirror are not closer than they appear. These mirrors are 16" out when retracted and extend 5" to a total of 21" from the door. Mirrors fold on impact. An optional spotter mirror is available, however some users report it is not adjustable and is aimed up too much. The manufacturer claims the extended width from the outer edge of one mirror to the outer edge of the other is 107" - 109" depending on vehicle.
PROS: OEM style, power extension.
CONS: price, requires additional wiring and mounting of switch to extend, smaller glass.
Manufacturer's website: Power Vision (http://www.powervisionmirrors.com/)
3. Lucerix X-Mount/CIPA replacement mirrors. MSRP $400 - $479. These mirrors are large with glass size of 10" X 10" and telescope manually out up to 4.25" or about 19" from the vehicle. One user reported his mirrors measured 104" tip to tip on an '02 Silverado. These mirrors fold on impact or for parking. Stick-on spotter mirrors are optional. Mirrors are available with manual or electric glass, heated or non-heated. Mirrors are reported to install easily and quickly, using OEM power connections.
PROS: Style, size.
CONS: A little pricey, but the cheapest of the replacement mirrors.
Factory website: Lucerix (http://www.lucerix.com/) and CIPA Mirrors (http://www.cipamirrors.com/)
4. McKesh (MSPR $130) - These mirrors mount temporarily on the doors of your tow vehicle using straps and clips. Users claim these mirrors are the widest mounts (up to 20" from the door to the center of the glass) and allow the greatest vision to the rear. Main glass is 6" X 9" and most users recommend the optional spotting mirrors that mount to the brackets. Users report spending 10 - 15 minutes completing initial install, mainly adjusting the mirror to the vehicle, but only a minute or two to remove or reinstall once adjusted. Some users report these mirrors vibrate and others report the straps hum at speed. A few users have reported minor damage to their vehicles caused by the clips scratching their windows or by the adjusting device rubbing on their door if the provided guards are not properly installed.
PROS: Price, Size, extension, transferable to other vehicles.
CONS: Appearance, possible damage to door.
Manufacturer's website: McKesh Mirrors (http://www.hensleymfg.com/mckeshmirrors.html)
5. Various slip on or clamp on mirrors - CIPA and other brands make different styles of tow mirrors which slip on, clamp on, or strap on to your factory mirrors. These mirrors are reported by some people to vibrate, but most users report favorable experiences. The model most likely to vibrate are the clip on style while the slide on and the CIPA Universal (with the tension knob) suffer less vibration. Most mirrors extend 4 - 5 inches or more beyond the factory mirrors. Users towing 102" trailers report this style of mirror does not typically allow full view to rear. Cost is $11 - $40 per mirror depending on model.
PROS: Price, ease of installation and removal.
CONS: Smaller glass and total mounted width.
Hope this helps.
Billman 01-12-2005, 12:24 PM Very thorough, Spindrift. Which ones do you have?
I bought a set of Powervisions off Ebay 2 years ago. Still haven't gotten around to putting them on yet.
Interesting signature, countrycoach...
spindrift 01-12-2005, 12:42 PM Billy,
I guess great minds think alike.:eek: I've got the PowerVision as well. Unfortunately, at the time I made the decision based solely upon price. Probably would go with the Lucerix if I had to do it all over again.
The passenger side PV needs to be shimmed very carefully. If you install as is, it creates an awkward angle of vision which doesn't provide a safe perspective of the road. However, the extension is fine and I have no problems seeing the back of my 34' TT.
Pics of the PVs:
Billman 01-12-2005, 01:14 PM Call me crazy, but those look like Lucerix/Cipa??
spindrift 01-12-2005, 01:56 PM O.K., 'ya know... you're one crazy son-of-a-gun.
The Lucerix mirror has more glass surface area. If you see them for real, you'd almost think they were round. They're big.
spindrift 01-12-2005, 02:04 PM Uh, I'm just as crazy as you. I've got the Vision View mirrors. Power Vision...Vision View, they're all the same, right?:o
So...I should be adding this http://www.rpminnovations.com/ to the post above.
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