Been trying pretty damn hard to get some B100. I called tons of places here in So CA, and they all wanted something like 3.50+++ for it. And thats w/o taxes.

I got hold of a place that makes it out in Coachella Valley, and they are selling unroad taxed B100 for 2.78/G!!

The name of the place is Escher oil Co. I spoke to Jim.

Its made from WVO........http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/rockon.gif

Making french fries?

2.78 :eek: is b100 so much better ? #2 around here is $1.79, couple places below that. could not see paying that much for popcorn smell

Adding a few gallons to the diesels each time. Im just going to make my own blends.

Im getting it for use in the tractor anyway. Ive noticed that I get a migraine almost instantly after sucking the fumes. Really not good when running the PTO for the chipper. What I really need is a vertical exhaust.

If I can give my $$ to farmers instead of Saudis, Ill do it. Making B20 only raises the price per fillup by 5 bucks.

Manny,

What is the deal? Do you have to buy in bulk?

Are going to buy some?

Wonder when the tax break is going to kick in??

I found the website..is it the imperial biotane and also there is the supreme biotane.

The imperial is the WVO and supreme is virgin Soy.

Did i get that right?

Yup. Ive got farm designation, so I can buy it w/o road taxes. It will only be used in the tractor.

Im not even sure what happened about W's tax break. When I found it was 2.78'g, I didnt ask much more.

Im just getting a 55g drum.

Im getting it for use in the tractor anyway. Ive noticed that I get a migraine almost instantly after sucking the fumes. Really not good when running the PTO for the chipper. What I really need is a vertical exhaust.
Manny,

How does your tractor run with this B100? Have you used any other suppliers of B100 for it? I'm asking because our 2003 Kubota L4630 didn't like the good quality local brew we tried in it last year. With the same fuel, our VW TDI has run just fine. The GMC 6.5 was OK except for repeated lift pump failures I'm looking into right now (more to come; watch this space).

I'd like to use B100 in the tractor as well. Thoughts?

KN

Ive never run any BD in the tractor yet.

Even when I do, it will only be in <B50 quantities. Pry closer to B20.

What exactly did your tractor do? Did it possibly have something to do with cold temps and gelling?

Did you notice a difference in the way your other vehicles ran with it?

MT,

When I first tried the BD, it was late July a couple of summers ago, I was brush-hogging thick 4' pasture grass, temps were in the 80s. I was working the machine fairly hard. I lost some power, could smell a burnt barbeque smell + saw a bit of smoke. Tractor seemed to be starving for fuel or otherwise straining. It would hesitate occasionally under load. I topped up the tank with dino a couple of times and it ran better.

When the temps went down in the fall of 03, it gelled/clogged the fuel lines. There could have been some residual glycerine but it also could have been petro-sludge. This November as well, I had to clean out where the fuel line entered the fuel filter after only using occasional BD splashed in for around B5-B10 at most. It seems to be a once-a-year clean-up needed when the cold weather starts.

The L4630 seems to be pretty sensitive about what it burns. You can smell it almost immediately. What I want to find out is if a washed, top-quality fuel behaves any differently. When I can get ahold of some known "pure" BD, I'll give it another try.

The other vehicles seem to lose a bit of fuel efficiency on B100 or high concentrations. The truck runs smoothly but loses some power as well. Think it's due to the lower BTU content in BD; there just isn't quite as much latent energy. The smaller lighter 1.9 TDI does not seem to lose a lot of power. I suspect the energy/ BTU difference affects larger engines / heavier loads more. I've read a couple of farmers' posts earlier on indicating that larger machines such as big tractors and combines seemed to lose some power.

I'm OK with losing a bit of power and efficiency, but get cautious around reliablity problems. I'm relatively new to diesels, and feel like I'm still learing the ins and outs. The fuel conservation and environmental benefits of biodiesel make this worth the ups and downs.

Did you get the BD from a place that meets the ASTM standards?

I just picked up mine, but it will be a few days before I can use it. Rainy.

Just need to find a barrel pump.....

BTW, what year is your JD?

The fuel is not ASTM tested, so there remains a certain mystery factor. I'm commtted enough to try these things anyway. Our area does not have any commercial BD outfits...yet.

My Kubota is a 2003. Are you going to use a dessicant breather on your drum? It fits in the small bung of the drum. I've read that these are a good idea if there is any humidity around at all; i.e. outdoor storage. (I'm using 5 gal. jugs.)

I havent thought of that. I thought you wanted the drum sealed?

Im still looking for a barrel pump.

It sounds like you bought your BD from a less than reputable place. From what Ive heard, it is real risky to buy BD unless the place is ASTM certified.

Have you looked on the biodiesel.org site for a place that sells the good stuff nearer to you?

How much did you pay/g for yours?

The dessicant breather is in effect a 1-way valve (out) for moisture. If the drum is in the sun, temp swings can cause condensation to build up. These drums are also not hermetically sealed from what I can tell. This may just be an extra precaution, but I'll track one down if I drum store outside.

We are part of a very small home brew co-op. Costs around $1.25-1.50 gal; taxes handled separately. We're pretty careful. There is NO commercial/ASTM dealer less than 4 hrs drive from the Albany area. Believe me, I've checked. One of my future projects is to be part of getting one of the local fuel dealers into getting at least B20. They'd need fleet business to make a go of it.

What year is your tractor?

Interesting, youve got a coop. Where do you get the oil? Virgin or WVO?

You might send some fuel to AVlube or something to have it sampled.

The Kuboda is an 03. 4 banger, 45 horse.

We use WVO; local resource / envronmental conservation. Getting fuel tested in on my list.

How far away did you go to get your B100? - WVO or virgin stock?

The company is a good 100 miles away, but I was able to meet one of their drivers about 30 miles away. It worked out real good.

The place offers imperial and supreme biotane. The impreial is made from WVO, while supreme is from virgin oils. Im not sure how much the latter costs.

Still waiting on rain to stop to get it out of the truck........bummed

Manny,

Are you going to try it in the DMax...at full strength??

How much did it cost you..I am assuming they just sell in the 55 gallon drums??

At most, Ill add 5g to the Dmax on fillup. Makes B20. Ill do the same for the TDI.

Too expensive to do B100 in the Max, not to mention doing something that is kinda rare.

The 55g of B100 cost 153 bucks. I bet you could get more, possibly at a better price.