Diaric
01-02-2008, 11:41 PM
I know that no web cracks is whats preferred. I just pulled apart my 87 block and all 3 center webs have cracks about 1/2 an inch long. I pulled apart a 1984 block I have that dropped a rod, and it has cracks on the 2nd and 3rd main only on one side. About 1/2 inch again. The others look ok. I have a line on a 1984 doner truck, but am probably gonna go through a lot of work to find more cracks.
I was planning on installing a main stud girdle on rebuild before I found the cracks.
Since probably most every block I find will have cracks, how much is too much? and has anyone found a way to stop them from spreading that actually works.
The 87 block is in great shape and I was hoping to rebuild it, the 84 was for spare parts and will need some bore work, like maybe a sleeve from dropping a rod.
Fred482`
01-03-2008, 04:56 PM
I did build one, with the owner's full knowledge and permission, that had 1/2" cracks on two main saddles. I used the DSG girdle, had the mains line honed with it torqued in place. So far, so good! It's been two years, don't know how many miles but quite a few.
This build care about after tearing down several cores, looking for a block without cracks. The one I built had the least wear and cleaned up good.
Diaric
01-03-2008, 07:56 PM
thanks for the info.
has anyone tried to tig the cracks?
I have an arc, mig and tig. I suck at arc, but could see tig doing it the coolest and least grinding.
I've searched welding cast and there seems to be a different opinion on how to do it from almost everyone
EngineBuilder
01-06-2008, 01:12 AM
When I was going through automotive school, we were taught about welding cracks- mostly on cylinder heads, but also on some cast iron blocks.
You'll want to use a center punch, and put a good dent at the end of the crack; this is supposed to help stop the crack from spreading. Then use a pencil grinder to open up the crack some; about an 1/8 of an inch on either side of the crack. Fill the gap with your bead, then grind it down flat. (grinding it flat keeps it from being a focal point for heat, which would probably cause the same area to crack again)
I don't know how important keeping the temps down will be- I've only done this a handful of times, and never on a head that would get used afterward. It was purely for educational purposes. FWIW, all we had was an old Lincoln arc welder, and it worked great.
Diaric
01-06-2008, 02:08 AM
thanks for the info.
called some welding shops that specialize in exotic welding, they think its possible, and a supplier of specialty rod for cool welding where the block doesn't need to be oven heated etc. the rods are about $125 a box. it sounds like it can be done with the proper prep work. if this were steel, there wouldn't be any concern about welding up cracks.
called a few rebuild shops and they never fixed, just tossed em, but don't even know where to get a good block anymore.
it would be informative to hear if anyone tried to repair the cracks and if it held up in use.
zijmer
03-01-2008, 04:13 AM
I know that no web cracks is whats preferred. I just pulled apart my 87 block and all 3 center webs have cracks about 1/2 an inch long. I pulled apart a 1984 block I have that dropped a rod, and it has cracks on the 2nd and 3rd main only on one side. About 1/2 inch again. The others look ok. I have a line on a 1984 doner truck, but am probably gonna go through a lot of work to find more cracks.
I was planning on installing a main stud girdle on rebuild before I found the cracks.
Since probably most every block I find will have cracks, how much is too much? and has anyone found a way to stop them from spreading that actually works.
The 87 block is in great shape and I was hoping to rebuild it, the 84 was for spare parts and will need some bore work, like maybe a sleeve from dropping a rod.
do the cracks go deep into the webing? if not you may be able to save the block buy installing splayed caps.
MillwrightJesse
03-01-2008, 08:16 AM
the AM General blocks are good if you can find them