Anyone know anything bad about them? PERSONALLY, im 100% american for trucks, dont care if its made here, Toyota trucks arnt american!

So, looking for reasons to convince him NOT to buy it! Anything????

Look how big the frame ISNT...
Look at the truck.-:t
Tell him about the tailgates being soo weak they cant have a 4wheeler (ATV) load into the bed without bending.
Recalls.

Can't recall anything else right now.

BTW this is in the wrong forum

nice truck, if you want a half ton.

Just sell the brother to some slave traders and buy some goodies for your ride. Course you might not get as much for him if they find out he drives a Toyota.

Disown Him!

Slap the sh*t out of him!

Tell him 60 years from now, would you buy a truck made by Al Qeada? He probably say No.Then tell him why would you buy a truck from a Japanese company 60 years after they bombed Pearl Harbor.
I cant stand Japanese trucks, or the Japanese.
Probably a bad analogy
If it were my brother Id do the same as banshee1973
Bill

Did you guyes know that the most american built car right now is the Honda Accord.

Did you guyes know that the most american built car right now is the Honda Accord.

Im talking about the companies. Hell, Ford, Chevy, and Dodge alike use several forign parts.

HOWEVER

Chevrolet, Ford, and Dodge are american companies! Honda, Toyota, Nissan, etc etc are forign companies.



PS: The weak tailgate, small frame, etc all helps. My brother was a mechanic, so I have to pick structure failures. He's pretty happy with the fact that the Tundra can outrace us stock..... we didnt get into mods, because thats a neverending battle.

:funnypost

Keep in mind that the Tundra is mostly, if not entirely, built in the USA too. However... they've had huge numbers of recalls, and the gas mileage is horrible. Nobody gets the 24 mpg's they claim; try more like 14.

I tried to buy one of these trucks, but just couldn't pull the trigger (just too much $$$). With the factory duals/flowmaster exhaust, that truck will really fly. But... it's a half-ton, and not near the truck the 2500 HD's are, especially the Duramax-powered trucks.

If you are serious about finding the problems with the Tundra, the best bet is check out the tundrasolutions.com The forum is as nice as this one with some great info on "problems" There are some good pics of the tailgate failures.

known issues:
Tailgate failure (bending)
Tailgate failure (latching cables broke {the ones for the handles)
Driveshaft recall
early trucks had cam shaft failures
show him the body flex video on you tube

Iv been reading into it, tests, etc. Tundra is a decent every day driver, thats IT. Things built like crap. From bolts, to bed bounce, to offroad driving.


Maaaaan, I really needta talk em outta this.

My best buddy has a 2001 Tundra that he brought new in '01. He now has 100K on it. The only problem he's ever had except for regular maintenance has been a faulty O2 sensor and a couple of weeks ago we replaced the fan clutch. It still runs like new. If you can use a half ton truck, it ought to be an option.

I would contact the people from the "Kicked In The Nuts" website, and tell them you have their next victim! LOL!!!


Try your hardest to get him to see the light, and buy American!

My best buddy has a 2001 Tundra that he brought new in '01. He now has 100K on it. The only problem he's ever had except for regular maintenance has been a faulty O2 sensor and a couple of weeks ago we replaced the fan clutch. It still runs like new. If you can use a half ton truck, it ought to be an option.

That's not the truck the new Tundra's are... I believe the older Tundra's are built tougher. However, that new 5.7l v8 is a scorcher.

I attend church with a large number of Toyota employees... and they confirmed a few minutes ago that the Tundra is 100% built in the USA. Engines come from Alabama and the trucks are built in Princeton, Ind.

BTW, does anyone need to be reminded that our beloved Duramax engines are built on Japanese technology as a joint venture between GM and Isuzu?

As ridiculous as it may sound, I'm not convinced there is such a thing as an American-built car/truck anymore. My grandad spent 40 years of his life working for Chrysler and he swore that the first Dodge mini-trucks were American trucks, even though they were built by Mitsubishi in Japan and shipped here... just 'cause they had an American car company logo on 'em.:cookoo:

Buy American really does'nt mean what it use to. In my opinion there really isn't a whole lot of difference any more. The forign car companies keep millions of Americans employed with good paying jobs, IN America. The big three American car companies have billions of dollars invested in forign companies and a lot of the parts for there cars are forign built in forign contries. 80% of the oil to make the fuel you buy to run American cars is from the middle east. It's definetly a global industry. At the company I work for we build crank shaft dies for GM, Chrysler, Honda, Hundi and Toyota. The plant that forges the cranks is in Georgetown, KY. and owned by Sumitomo.

Well, a while back I went to a local Toyota dealer to check out the new Tundra. I was not very impressed with the truck as a whole. First, most of the frame is not boxed (only the part under the front end (for toughness)). The question that raises is "Do they expect this truck to not be worked hard?" The interior was okay, found it a bit cheap, I did not like the fake wood at all. The 5.7 is a really nice engine, still doesn't make up for the rest of the truck in my opinion. Really pricey thing too!

At one time when the guys did the ratings of vehicles they use to give you the prices of different parts and pieces that you could expect to use, starters, brake pads, calipers, their was a hole list. From experience nothing on a Toyota is cheap. PLAY SAFE!

is he prepared to feed it rice.

Number 1
"an American Flag Just Would'nt Look Right On The Rear Window"!!!

Number 2
"even Though It's Made Here, The Profits Still Go Back To Japan ".

Number 3
"they Can Undercut Their Prices Here,but We Can't Sell A Chevy Over There Without Them Charging Excessive Prices".
Yeah,i'm A Retired Gm Employee..thats Why..

Had Christmas dinner with a retired GM employee. He worked in the financial dept. Met him through church. We started talking about the bad years, 70's-80's. He told me how he started doing field work when dealers starting going computerized. He never knew or realized anyone complained about GM quality. Apparently, the upper level management were so disconnected from the dealerships, they had no idea of things that plagued many GM vehicles like emission control issues etc. He just figured all mass produced machines have their share of glitches and defective parts. Talk about disconnected! All the high buck executives think about is the bottom line. If it shrinks, fire the guy above you. If it gets bad enough you bail out and someone else gets blamed. Ain't much different today. If Toyota quality is going south it's because it's almost entirely built in this country now, and that's sad.

Had Christmas dinner with a retired GM employee. He worked in the financial dept. Met him through church. We started talking about the bad years, 70's-80's. He told me how he started doing field work when dealers starting going computerized. He never knew or realized anyone complained about GM quality. Apparently, the upper level management were so disconnected from the dealerships, they had no idea of things that plagued many GM vehicles like emission control issues etc. He just figured all mass produced machines have their share of glitches and defective parts. Talk about disconnected! All the high buck executives think about is the bottom line. If it shrinks, fire the guy above you. If it gets bad enough you bail out and someone else gets blamed. Ain't much different today. If Toyota quality is going south it's because it's almost entirely built in this country now, and that's sad.

AAAAMEN BROTHER

Have him take it out for a test drive, go wheel to wheel on acceleration over any distance he feels good with. Now who won?

Put them back to back and get a nice 3 inch/20 foot strap between you and see who out pulls who.
Now who won?

Fuel mileage test? Who wins? braking ability? Who wins?

Then ask him why he wants a Toy?

Is he really your brother?

Its doesn't make sense to compare diesel vs. gas. I think there might be a reason why toyota is the #1 auto maker. A toyota man could nit pick our trucks too. The big three has feared the day toyota joined the full size truck market, besides give them a break, if your prejudice because their japanese, thats one thing but these guys have been building full size trucks for not even a decade and they have a truck that has been a top contender, I think that speaks for itself. I love my truck but I would consider a HD toyota if they offered a diesel, if you look into it quite a few execs at these japanese auto companies are american also I beleive the guy who runs toyota right now is a yank.

show him this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWjTbiYo3x0&feature=PlayList&p=2895B977EE368746&index=14

i have seen this in real life driving next to one going down the road

wow thats bad

show him this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWjTbiYo3x0&feature=PlayList&p=2895B977EE368746&index=14

i have seen this in real life driving next to one going down the road

The ford did pretty good
The toy-:t

Tell him to seriously compare the prices. I almost bought a tundra... then I found out I could buy a fully loaded LTZ w/ the duramax for the same price as the fully loaded tundra.

Twice the truck for the same price. Don't forget foreign cars/trucks don't have the huge mark up between invoice and MSRP that domestics have. Alot of times you'll be luck if invoice is only 3K less than sticker. At first it may look cheaper... but when u get down to it... it's not.

I saw one in the grocery store parking lot tonight. It had a sled deck and ONE small sled on it.

The springs in the rear were totally flat! Yup, that's Toyota Tough at it's best. I wonder if the DOT were to scale him if he would be overweight? Ya Think?!?!

I had a 2006 Tundra for about 6 months before upgrading to the Chevy. The Tundra was great for a family vehicle, but I was killing it for work.

It took me a while, but I realized I could sell the 18-wheeler we had for our family business, and we could trade the Tundra in for the Chevy and I now have a family vehicle and a mini-semi truck all in one.

Have him take it out for a test drive, go wheel to wheel on acceleration over any distance he feels good with. Now who won?

Put them back to back and get a nice 3 inch/20 foot strap between you and see who out pulls who.
Now who won?

Fuel mileage test? Who wins? braking ability? Who wins?

Then ask him why he wants a Toy?

Took em to the Chevy dealer the other day, he's switched back :) He's not gonna be dmax'n but he's back to Chevy.... 08 1500 Z71 to be exact. Hopefully he doesnt change his mind before he actually buys it (inside a month somewhere)

Eh... like I said b4.... if he was willing to drop the cash on a Toy... then he might as well look at the dmax. As it's about the same price... maybe actually a few hundred cheaper.