: Diesel Vette?
Frank_EP 12-07-2007, 02:55 PM Looking around the net I see LOTS of mention of this product for 2009.
Drivetrain is twin turbo 4.5 to the L90E. Preproduction mule spotted
at speed on the road in Germany.
Anybody got any more details?
squirrelmasta 12-07-2007, 03:47 PM i don't think it will happen for 09. Actually, unless the entire auto market goes diesel i don't think that will happen.
BigBoyBlue 12-07-2007, 04:18 PM I believe the diesel corvette article was an april fools joke.
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94068
check out the date
it was all rumor from there.
dfnlkn 12-07-2007, 04:19 PM I am quite doubtful that they could do that feasibly. First, the engine bay on the Corvette is tight enough without turbos, yet alone two and there is no way they will put them under the car, don't forget the intercooler. So it would prolly weigh quite a bit more and mess with the handling meaning it would need adjusting as well. So as the last poster said, unless the entire car market went diesel, the Corvette for all practical reasons will remain a gas car. Btw, it is not like it hurts their CAFE rating that much anyhow.
BigBoyBlue 12-07-2007, 05:17 PM a diesel vette would only work if it was a mid engine. Diesel engines, no matter how light, are still heavier than gas engines of comparable size. A heavy nose on the corvette would mean all new suspension design is needed. A diesel would have to be placed as a mid engine to help with handling characteristics.
Chicago TDP 12-07-2007, 06:23 PM there is a vette with a Dmax in it. It is like a C5 chassis and a totally moded 6.6. I thinik it is on U tube dot com
torqueofthetown 12-07-2007, 09:01 PM If its that vette thats doing a big burnout, I'm pretty sure thats a fake.... diesel sound added to the vid.
If there ever is a factory diesel vette..... I'd bet it'll show up in Europe first.
keith_2500hd 12-09-2007, 12:31 AM there have been corvette and cadillac's reported in europe, testing engine/drivetrains for several years. this engine is tighter and lighter than 6.6L Duramax.
07dodge 12-09-2007, 02:40 PM there is a vette with a Dmax in it. It is like a C5 chassis and a totally moded 6.6. I thinik it is on U tube dot com
Thats a fake...the guys that made the video even admitted it was. And if you listen to it, thats a Cummins sound clip
dmax3500 12-09-2007, 02:52 PM this eng is supossed to be the same size as a small block chevy, i can see all kinds of cool things to pu it in ,32 3 window coupes and 1969 camaros
cjsho 12-12-2007, 02:58 PM Audi has said they'll build a Diesel R8, it will be interesting to see how it does. I wouldn't doubt a diesel Vette, but not for quite a while........
WHTDMAX06 12-14-2007, 11:04 PM Ya the 4.5 is designed to fit anywhere an ls motor does so technically a bolt in for a 97+ corvette. The intercooler would be another story with the fitment as mentioned. The other big issue is the non married transmission that a c5 or c6 has you would need a custom bellhousing to fit the tc and the trans would need to be beefed up etc. Not feasable but definately on my wish list.
malibu795 12-14-2007, 11:19 PM Ya the 4.5 is designed to fit anywhere an ls motor does so technically a bolt in for a 97+ corvette. The intercooler would be another story with the fitment as mentioned. The other big issue is the non married transmission that a c5 or c6 has you would need a custom bellhousing to fit the tc and the trans would need to be beefed up etc. Not feasable but definately on my wish list.
no you wouldnt need a special one. you would need a diff flexplate/flywheel tho
360/660 power rating would be very fun to drive.... and push ~35mpg realy world
I don't think they should "bastardize" a Vette. GM needs to build a car similar to a WRX with four wheel drive and a turbo diesel. How about they buy Lancia and reproduce the Stratos with a mid engine 4.5 turbo diesel?:drool:
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/3003/lanciastratospg0.jpg (http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lanciastratospg0.jpg)
Ling_650vette 12-20-2007, 04:45 PM this eng is supossed to be the same size as a small block chevy, i can see all kinds of cool things to pu it in ,32 3 window coupes and 1969 camaros
That would be cool - TT Dmax in a 69 Camaro :cool:
As cool as I'd think it'd be to see a factory powered diesel Vette, I seriously dont see it coming to fruition anytime soon. Esp with the LS9 powered ZR1 fixin to hit the showroom at over $100,000 I dont think GM cares too much about having a diesel Vette lol.
But the suspension IMO is the least of the worries (weight ratio/handling is a different story). I'd be more worried about a transaxle handling all that torque. Even the gas TT powered cars tend to need upgrades when they start pushing the boost, and most of those systems are near what the 4.5 Dmax is slated to be at (least in tq, maybe not hp).
how bout this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw9FTFlSsB0&feature=related
im guessing fake tho but who knows
Rafedial1 01-14-2008, 07:59 AM The idea of a performance-oriented diesel powered passenger car will be apart of our very near future. Some people have already started acting on that idea as well, like DHRA and this guy below.....
Check this out...http://www.18to1.com/index.php?&MMN_position=1:1. It looks and sounds legitimate.
Duratys 01-14-2008, 10:44 AM The idea of a performance-oriented diesel powered passenger car will be apart of our very near future. Some people have already started acting on that idea as well, like DHRA and this guy below.....
Check this out...http://www.18to1.com/index.php?&MMN_position=1:1. It looks and sounds legitimate.
You bet that cars legit..................hes a member of this forum :cool:
jcool 01-14-2008, 02:32 PM the aftermarket makes rear mounted turbos for the corvette, near the old mufflers. There also is a intercooler as well to fit in front of a ls motor, if the 4.5 really is the same diminsions it really is something that can be done, and they can make a tranny hold up to the tq without a doubt but I dont think it will be very cost effective
Ah yes the diesel vette. How many of you are old enough to rember the original diesel vette much less actually drive one???? Oh wait you guys are talking about a diesel CORvette!!!!
DIESEL 5 01-14-2008, 05:02 PM I think Audi will be the first with the R8 TDI.
[At a press event enlivened by a solo acoustic performance by rock star Bryan Adams, Audi (http://autos.msn.com/browse/Audi.aspx) has unveiled a thought-provoking concept car powered by mold-breaking, race-proven diesel technology.
“We are challenging the final piece of conventional wisdom [about diesel engine cars],” said Audi AG Chairman Rupert Stadler. Certainly, he has the right car for the job. The R8 TDI concept’s 6.0-liter V12 twin-turbo engine develops 500 horsepower and 737 lb-ft of torque. It nails the 0-62 mph sprint in 4.2 seconds, with a top speed of more than 186 mph. And that mountainous torque is available at just 1750 rpm.
Derived from the V10 unit that has twice run the prestigious and demanding Le Mans 24-hour race, the engine is just 6.5 inches longer than the V8 in the regular R8 (http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/overview.aspx?year=2008&make=Audi&model=R8). Its narrow 60-degree angle, and advanced materials combining iron and graphite make it compact and light enough to fit the R8 shell.
Super Clean for a Supercar
How clean is it? Clean enough to meet the ultra-tough California emissions standards that still defeat many lesser diesels. The secret to this is advanced combustion control, involving as many as five fuel injection events per engine cycle, combined with a three-stage exhaust treatment. A standard catalyst and particulate filter are fitted to remove pollutants and soot. An additional catalyst uses small quantities of an additive called AdBlue to break up nitric oxides. This system will last the lifetime of the vehicle.
Fuel economy may not be top of the criteria list for supercar buyers, but the R8 V12 TDI concept scores even here, testing at 24 mpg.
The transmission is a short-throw six-speed manual with a small diameter clutch for quick, precise changes. Naturally for Audi, and necessarily with so much power, there is a Quattro four-wheel-drive system.
Similar Styling
The concept’s exterior is a lightly restyled version of the familiar R8. Up front, additional layered air vents sit below the distinctive LED rimmed headlights. The aluminum bodywork is finished in matte silver, contrasting with the “side-blade” that vertically transects the body behind the cabin. The glazed cabin roof and engine cover are two transparent sections separated by a race-derived air duct that accelerates air into the engine. The rear of the car has a variable spoiler that extends upwards.
With the standard R8 already on sale and very well-regarded, it’s entirely possible that this concept could be produced, albeit at low volume. But it’s equally important to Audi as a way of making a point about the potential of diesel engines to deliver economy, cleanliness, and performance.
With a diesel in the R8, "the sky is the limit," said an Audi board member.]
KoryVette 01-14-2008, 07:27 PM You think we have trans problems. C5 and C6 trans would never hold a Dmax I dont care who built it. I know lots of corvette guys and you get in to the 600-700ftlb range there putting in a new trans every time they go to the track. Chris over at ECS figured out how not stuff a 350th in the back of his C5 and it still doesnt live that long.
um an audi a8 has always been available in a diesel just not in the usa.
and yeah i heard that numerous companys are bringing diesels to the us now. audi. more vw's . even toyota has diesels in japan. their are so many sweet cars and trucks outside the usa it makes me sick. and it seems everything is awd.
so that white vette really has a cummins in it huh. lets see some pics under the hood then if he is a member on here
mr._bowtie 02-01-2008, 11:05 AM BigBoyBlue is right!
You also have to think that the current motors that are in Vettes are an all aluminum small block, so they really dont weigh very much. The resulting changes that would have to be made would send it off the charts. There will be some guys do it aftermarket Im sure but GM wont do it.
There is room for turbos... there are plenty of guys running around with turbo and blown vettes. Get online and do a search for a turbo corvette and tons of stuff comes up.
I think we may see diesel SS Impalas and Monte Carlos but the chances are slim they will stuff one under the hood of a performance car. Vette or Camaro
detroitdiesel 02-01-2008, 07:33 PM The idea of a performance-oriented diesel powered passenger car will be apart of our very near future. Some people have already started acting on that idea as well, like DHRA and this guy below.....
Check this out...http://www.18to1.com/index.php?&MMN_position=1:1. It looks and sounds legitimate.
Thats a cummins motor, you can tell by the noise, and there is no way they could shove a cummins in a vette.
detroitdiesel 02-01-2008, 07:35 PM but check this out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO_kjaxIDzc
joelykool 02-01-2008, 07:46 PM but check this out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO_kjaxIDzc
Sweet car but not as sweet as the dmax conversion in the GN.
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