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Duramx Man
12-19-2004, 07:50 PM
Speedometer reads 70 sitting still, heard that GM has had this problem with lots more Instrument Cluster. Anyone else had this problem? Looks pretty cool going 125 MPH on the interstate!!!!!!!!!!!:D

aprr454
12-19-2004, 10:45 PM
I had the same problem. It started at 18mph at a stand still. Then it reset to 0 after a few times of shutting off the engine and restarting. Then it went to 140 or what would be 140 at 55mph(judging by my rpms) because it could'nt go any farther and was clicking like it was tring to go all the way around the dial. It slowly started to work its way down to the currect speed and after a week it had reset to 0 at a stop and was working fine. I had the cluster replaced and got it back and the hourmeter as 700 more hours on it and the tach is 50rpm slow. Odometer was on the money when the speedo was going ape.

Mr X
12-20-2004, 12:59 AM
This just happened to me today. I was going about 25 mph and it was reading 115 mph. I got it to reset to zero by repeatedly cranking/turning it over, stopping just before it would start - about 10 times. I gave it a small test just around the block and it seemed OK.

Dmaxcan
12-20-2004, 02:54 AM
As long as your odometer isn't going up while you're sitting there. :D

Duramx Man
12-20-2004, 05:58 AM
Actually, it is not putting miles on the odometer while sitting still but I thought maybe I would tell them it seems to be putting miles on too fast and see if they would put less on the new instrument cluster!!!!!!!!!!:D Probably wishfull thinking.

Jim659
12-20-2004, 05:10 PM
Put it in reverse and see if it starts slowing down.:)

2K2AD
12-20-2004, 06:07 PM
Speedometer reads 70 sitting still, heard that GM has had this problem with lots more Instrument Cluster. Anyone else had this problem? Looks pretty cool going 125 MPH on the interstate!!!!!!!!!!!:D
It is people like you driving 70+ in parking lots and such that cause accidents. 125 on the highway? That is going to jail speed. :D

aprr454
12-20-2004, 08:42 PM
When my truck went in to have the problem looked at the Friday before Thanksgiving I had 28200 miles. My truck went in the day after Thanksgiving(the next Friday, one week later) to have the cluster changed. I got my truck back with 27900 miles on it. And 700 MORE hours.

2500HD04
01-05-2005, 07:42 PM
This happened to my 03 2500hd gas. Just got it back today. Called gm and the dash cluster is on a national back order. Found a local company that fixed the unit for $350. Took a week. Had to remove dash cluster and send it in. Truck is dead with out dash cluster. I guess it is a good thing my mileage stayed the same,60K

Mr X that is how mine started would clear for a day or two and back to 125 MPH. Finally last week it just stayed there.

Max Payne
01-05-2005, 08:00 PM
Best thing you can do when a cluster is on backorder is take it to the dealer, let them get the info, and drive it until the cluster comes in. The new cluster will have the miles on it from when it was originally ordered, all the miles you put on in the mean-time are erased...

Lennox69
01-05-2005, 10:02 PM
atleast your saving money in fuel(sorry for the smart remark but i could'nt help it)

CYoung
01-05-2005, 10:43 PM
My 2003 with 60k did this the week before Christmas. The spedometer stayed at 70mph at a dead stop, and went up from there. Dealer rep told me that they were seeing a lot of this issue. They sent the cluster out to have a stepper motor replaced. $460.00 and a week without my truck. The rep did tell me that if GM decides this is an issue and issues a TSB, then I will be able to get my money back.

mmoore2004
01-05-2005, 11:58 PM
My 2003 has been doing it for the last year. The dealer ordered a new cluster the first of December. They tried to put the new one in this last week. G M sent the wrong one!

neo5556
01-06-2005, 01:22 AM
some one told me that the miles on the 2003 and up are stored on the BCM not on the cluster is that true or not....

Max Payne
01-06-2005, 09:51 AM
Kind of... The BCM has to recognize the cluster (you can't switch them without performing some lengthy relearns)

loydt
01-06-2005, 11:46 AM
Mine did the same thing to me, although it was the tachometer that went nuts. Been at the dealer since Monday for that and a few other things. I wish they would hurry up!!!

aprr454
01-06-2005, 03:38 PM
I'm getting my second cluster replaced as soon as in comes in. Not because of a bad speedo, they put 700 more hours on the hourmeter than when the truck went in. My father-in-law is a parts manager at a chevy dealer and he told a GM rep about it and he told him to replace it ASAP.

BiteMe
01-06-2005, 04:06 PM
They sent the cluster out to have a stepper motor replaced. $460.00 and a week without my truck. The rep did tell me that if GM decides this is an issue and issues a TSB, then I will be able to get my money back.Sorry to get off topic, but how will you know if they issue a TSB? I'm curious because I had a problem with my transfer case (something about a spring wearing through the case causing a major leak and 1/2 the case to be replaced - $1700) and I'm wondering if this may be an option for me.....

CYoung
01-06-2005, 11:06 PM
I am hoping that my service rep will tell me, or that the TSB will be listed here if and when it is issued. This issue seems to be occuring on all GM trucks.

Bodysurfer
01-13-2005, 01:18 AM
Been having that same problem....I posted it in the 2500HD forum. Sounds like GM has some explaining/fixing to do !!!!


LATER !

dieselsnow
02-16-2005, 05:26 PM
My speedometer did the 10-125 thing so I called the dealer and dropped it off yesterday. Called today and they removed my clueter, sent it to factory and told me I would be 2-4 weeks before I get it back. They did rent me a 1/2 ton Gas Truck, but this is ridiculuous. They said it was a safety issue and the they had to keep it until the new cluster comes in. I am not happy with this 1/2 ton
I will have to borrow a truck from someone to pull my trailer, don't want to use this without trailer brakes and the little v8, no allison is not impressive.

I tried for a 2500hd even gas for a loaner. no resposne yet.

I have 22,000 miles and it is warranty.

Any one else seen this?

Bodysurfer
02-16-2005, 05:45 PM
Mine has been doing that....sitting at 40 to 50 mph at stand still. Too many of these things going out. GM better step on the turn around... a week or more is totally uncalled for.

Any GM techs here know what the _ is up with this matter?

THANKS!

aprr454
02-16-2005, 06:07 PM
I had four clusters replaced. The orginal one, bad speedo, first replacement wrong hours, second was for an 05' not compatible, third same as second, fouth was an 03' and works fine. My father in law is the parts manager at the dealer I use and he said GM just sent out a bulletin about the 05' clusters no working with the 03' trucks. Also, the dealership got some type of reprograming so the 05' will work with the 03' because that is all they make now is the 05's

65Bowtie
02-16-2005, 09:58 PM
I just got mine replaced. It was back ordered for a couple of months. They brought it in for diagnosis, said "your right, it doesn't move when you drive it" and ordereed a replacement. I have been driving around for a while without knowing how fast I am going, no safety issue.

They put the new cluster in, knocked exactly 500 miles and 100 hours off.

Max Payne
02-17-2005, 09:47 AM
I have been able to temporarily correct the speedo stuck on 40mph etc. issue by repeatedly cranking/starting and shutting off the truck. The speedo gets closer and closer to zero with each crank/restart. You can hear the gears in the cluster spinning every time the cluster does the jigaboo when you let the key back from the crank position. Try it, it works. Probably not a permanent fix, but enough to buy you some time while you wait for parts.

Max Payne
02-17-2005, 09:49 AM
02 - 05 Chevrolet / GMC / Cadillac All Full Size Trucks and Utilities Clicking Noise from IPC or Gauge Needle Sticking - kw click tick speed speedometer oil temperature tachometer cluster motor panel #PIT3327B - (Feb 4, 2005)
02 - 05 Chevrolet/GMC/Cadillac All Full Size Trucks and Utilities Clicking Noise from IPC or Gauge Needle Sticking
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The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in the PI.

Condition/Concern:
Some customers may comment on a clicking noise coming from the I/P cluster or gauge needle sticking.

Recommendation/Instructions:
Root cause appears to be the stepper motor in the cluster. Due to the magnitude of this concern, certain I/P clusters are now on back- order and the electronic service centers cannot meet the demand for new/or remanufactured clusters. Enhancements have been made to the stepper motors and I/P clusters. The supplier has made available a significant number of replacement clusters to address the back order condition. These clusters include improvements to internal rotors and a new motor design which will address concerns with noise and gages. The Electronic Service Centers ( ESC ) should be able to address dealer orders going forward as a result of better communication with the supplier.

Note: Until back order situation is completely resolved, most replacement clusters will be 2005 model year part numbers and these clusters must be reprogrammed, using a VCI from Techline 800-828-6860 IF USED in a 2003 model year vehicle.

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Please follow this diagnosis process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed.

Models:
( (02-05 Chevrolet All Full Size Trucks and Utilities) and (02-05 GMC All Full Size Trucks and Utilities) and (02-05 Cadillac All Full Size Utilities)

dieselsnow
02-17-2005, 01:17 PM
mine is a 2004. Called today and they are on a backlog 2-4 weeks.
Evidently they pulled my cluster out and are waiting for the replacement to come in. Still same answer as it is a "Safety issue" so they have to disable my vehicle and they can not allow me to take it until the new cluster arrives
Don't mean to be a pain in the butt, and I do appreciate the loaner but
2-4 weeks? They did confirm that it is part of the 100k warranty.

LeftCoastMax
02-17-2005, 10:27 PM
Well. Put me on the list. My speedometer just went bad tonight. 60 mph standing still. 85 mph up my driveway. As I understand the situation, you're better of not taking the truck in to the dealer until the parts problem is resolved. Any other suggestions?

neo5556
02-20-2005, 12:08 AM
if my tach is doing it the same stuck till I restart the truck 30 min later when the cab is warmer...my truck is past the warranty so will that still be covered under gm or am I stuck paying for the replacement...thanks for the input.

JIMPRU
03-02-2005, 01:07 PM
I just had my cluster replaced for the same reason. Seems to work fine but I have one question. The oil pressure reads about 30psi at idle and will go close to 120psi when the RPM's hit about 1500. Is this normal or am I just paying more attention to it since it was just replaced. Also speedometer seems off a little also but that could be that I was driving around in a KIA until they were able to get the cluster repaired. Only took about a week to get it repaired. I am running Mobile 1 syn oil and the temp here is about 53 or so. Thanks

Bob M
03-03-2005, 08:30 AM
same here just came out of garage yesterday.Turning key back and fourth will get it to reset for sometime but will end up right where is was before.Had to replace the whole instrutment panel.

PSYCHOSTROKER
03-30-2005, 11:03 AM
Mine had been doing this for a very long time, I was going to post a picture show that I was doing 120+ at 1800 RPMS I thought it was just a fluke at first.
I called my dealer yeasterday, give him the code off the back, I should have mine today, Some of the Clusters are back ordered but I guess the one I need is not, But here is my real question, He asked me about the mileage and log hours, Should I have told him the exact truth on those numbers? Is there another computer in the truck that will show up with the actual miles?

PSYCHOSTROKER
03-30-2005, 04:24 PM
OK now that I have my replacement Cluster I plug it in and Walla I just have the milage,hours and that's it not personal, or bussiness mileage, no fuel mileage, no instant fuel mileage, and etc So does any body know what to do next does it need to reprogramed into the cluster?? need some help here

Diesel Dragon
03-31-2005, 02:56 PM
Psycho,

Do you meen none of those options are there any more or are they still there and just reset to 0 again.

If there gone all together then you need to go back and let them know, maybe it was the wrong cluster, if they are still there but reset to 0, I don't think you'll get the personal, business, or other stuff back since it's all owner resettable anyway.

You'll have to start over on the business miles and add them to what you had if you remember.

And now's a good time to see if you can get a new higher mpg reading.:)

DD

PSYCHOSTROKER
04-04-2005, 12:52 AM
Psycho,

Do you meen none of those options are there any more or are they still there and just reset to 0 again.

If there gone all together then you need to go back and let them know, maybe it was the wrong cluster, if they are still there but reset to 0, I don't think you'll get the personal, business, or other stuff back since it's all owner resettable anyway.

You'll have to start over on the business miles and add them to what you had if you remember.

And now's a good time to see if you can get a new higher mpg reading.:)

DDThey had to take it back they for got to program the rest in there I should have it back next week

PSYCHOSTROKER
04-04-2005, 05:35 PM
I got it back in and its doing just fine but now I got an injector going out, Not related

McRat
04-19-2005, 01:51 PM
Mine is now doing the same thing.

It started with the speedo being "notchy", jumping 2 mph instead of moving smoothly. By the time I got home, it was stuck at 35mph while sitting still.

Dealer says they won't touch it if it is not "stuck" when I pull up. Problem? It only does it after several hours of driving at 75mph. Kinda hard to do around here.

Bodysurfer
04-19-2005, 05:49 PM
...... Dealer says they won't touch it if it is not "stuck" when I pull up. ...........
Hey Pat, I was told the same thing. The guy said, "When that problem happens again, just come on by and we'll take a look at it." Seems like everytime I have the time, the speedo just happens to be back at "0" and working fine. Go figure !!!


LATER!