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: Replacement center cap on stock wheels?


roper1
12-16-2004, 07:55 PM
Does anyone know where to get them? I'm talking about non stock some kind of replacement. Do any of you have them?

Bill Gisse
12-16-2004, 08:25 PM
I looked for months and couyldn't find any. Have lost 4 so far, the dealer replaced two and Discount tire replaced 2. I now put a dab of silicone latex caulking compound on ech wheel nut external threads before putting the caps on. Haven't lost any in the past ten months. Kids in the neighbor hood tell be they can get me some cheap. You know where they'ed get them. That might even be where mine went.

GMC2500HD
12-16-2004, 08:55 PM
Usually you can find them at hubcap and wheel places... I would try your local street side wheel guy, he might have some, if not hit ebay...

DRCook
12-17-2004, 12:01 PM
http://www.wayneautoparts.com/ has some. I bought some takeoff wheels from them, saw they did have some in their parts room. I also bought a bed for my 91 k2500 and lots of other parts. they are decent people to get parts from

roper1
12-17-2004, 02:17 PM
I should have put aftermarket one's. Not the stock plastic one's.

aka108
12-17-2004, 05:37 PM
Those things are a royal PIA. You would thing GM could design something deleting those plastic pieces of junk. The Germans and Japanese seem to be able to and they are decent looking wheels.

Frank Blum
12-17-2004, 07:12 PM
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the design and there are easy to put on. They do not fall off unless you let someone use an air wrench on them and wipe the detentes out. Later! Frank

JJs DuMax
12-17-2004, 09:49 PM
Unfortunately the guys in the tire shops are a bit lazy when it comes to delicately torqing those cheap POS plastic caps back on (did I say that out loud?):h )

It is a lousy design, plastic and metal don't expand/contract at the same temps. No problem running around town with a minimal load, first time I put my 5ver behind the truck one of the caps flew off due to the heat buildup in the wheel. I bought a set of simulators, they come with a longer thread cap which seems to work a little better. I check them often though. Just my .02 cents worth. JJ :)

Frank Blum
12-18-2004, 03:29 PM
I stand corrected. I guess they are very complicated and hard to install correctly. Later! Frank

aka108
12-18-2004, 05:49 PM
The OEM plastic hub covers along with the plastic "nuts" are junk, just plain simple pure junk.

JJs DuMax
12-18-2004, 09:56 PM
Frank B, didn't mean to step on your toes dude! GM has been using the plastic caps and nuts for years and while they work fine on their cars IMHO they shouldn't be on heavy duty trucks. Happy Holidays! JJ

Turfmower
12-19-2004, 12:37 PM
I dont know why you guy have so much problems with them I still have the originals on my 95 and my 03.

Frank Blum
12-20-2004, 12:44 AM
No problem JJ. I am a retired Maintenance Foreman and always check out everything I buy. I took one off the day I brought my truck home. Junk was my first impression also but they work. I decided then and there to take them off and put them on by hand. I just don't have a problem with them and neither does the local Big O. The tire shops learn fast after they buy a few. I have been looking for a better looking center with no luck. Later! Frank

BERK
12-20-2004, 05:21 AM
Ga'bage, I lost one on the hiway and found the other 3 loose so I took them all off.

DuckhunterInTN
12-20-2004, 09:11 AM
It would be neat if somone came up with some different aftermarket versions of a higher quality.

aka108
12-20-2004, 09:43 AM
Be even neater if they were designed out of existence. 16 nuts per wheel is a little too much when 8 are non-functional.

Kurt W.
12-20-2004, 10:49 AM
Don't know if any of you seen them, but... I found a set of billet aftermarket caps on Ebay a couple weeks ago. I think they were about $175 though. They looked really nice, made your factorys look like aftermarket wheels. I just wish that GM didn't stamp so many numbers under the caps, they would look so much better with with a centercap from the inside. If I can find a listing I'll post it.

JJs DuMax
12-20-2004, 09:16 PM
I had a local tire shop replace the rubber valve stems with metal high pressure valve stems and extenders to air up the dually. I caught the tech putting the plastic caps back on the truck with an air impact wrench.:mad: Fortunately he was going really slow, but he didn't even bother to pre-thread them first. Two were stripped and wouldn't torque properly. Last time at that shop!

I have a 96 GMC Safari van with the same caps. I've only lost a couple of them over the years. Guess I'll stock up on them on eBay. Happy Holidays! JJ :)

DuckhunterInTN
12-22-2004, 11:29 AM
Be even neater if they were designed out of existence. 16 nuts per wheel is a little too much when 8 are non-functional.

Yeah, but it wouldn't help me, though, because I've already bought a truck.....:)

Rockin
12-23-2004, 01:49 PM
Right after I bought my truck, I took it to the dealer because the plastic nuts weren't staying threaded. Turns out the came out with a different size of the plastic nuts. They replaced all 4 of my center covers and I have'n't had a problem yet.

I too would love to find some kind of center cap that looks better than the stock ones and also not have the stupid plastic in the way. Would save 30 min retorquing after having tires rotated.

wantsone
12-24-2004, 02:12 AM
I bought Alcoa center caps and chrome lug covers. Looks clean

Bill Gisse
12-24-2004, 09:12 AM
Can you put on a picture of the new caps installed?Thanks.

wantsone
12-24-2004, 03:05 PM
Hopefully this will work. I am obviously computer challenged.

JJs DuMax
12-28-2004, 05:12 AM
Nice look Wantsone. JJ

Lock
02-19-2005, 07:13 PM
Wantsone,
I dug up this post because I just picked up some fact alum wheels, and remembered this look from your pic. Do you happen to still have the part number for the lugs and center cap? Where did you pick those up?
I sent a PM also.
Thanks!

Bill Gisse
02-20-2005, 06:05 AM
Wantsone,
I dug up this post because I just picked up some fact alum wheels, and remembered this look from your pic. Do you happen to still have the part number for the lugs and center cap? Where did you pick those up?
I sent a PM also.
Thanks!

You can get them from Southwest Wheel. They don't come cheap.

smshiver
02-20-2005, 09:19 PM
Part numbers would be great. Still cheaper than buying new wheels. I've been looking for replacement center caps for a long time to no avail.

Bill Gisse
02-20-2005, 09:51 PM
lPart numbers would be great. Still cheaper than buying new wheels. I've been looking for replacement center caps for a long time to no avail.
Pull up Southwest Wheels link and you can find part no's easily. You wanty to check before hand that they fit your wheels.I'm not sure all wheels are the same but I would think they use same nuits.

Lock
02-20-2005, 11:15 PM
I was looking at Southwest Wheel, and couldn't find what I needed (I think). I measured my wheels with my trusty tape measure (no calipers at my house), and it looks like the inside of the hub opening is 4.5". I couldn't find a center cap on there site that measured 4.5" OD. Am I not looking hard enough, or am I missing something? TIA

smshiver
02-20-2005, 11:21 PM
I emailed Southwest Wheel. I'll post if they let me know what works. BTW, I also measured 4-1/2".

Lock
02-20-2005, 11:42 PM
Steve,
Thanks. I emailed Alcoa also. Not sure if I'll get anywhere that route, but I'll also post any info I get from them.
thanks,
Clint

McRat
02-22-2005, 02:09 PM
My Alcoa caps are 5 1/8" inches. So they will not work with the OEM wheels.

duramaximizer
02-22-2005, 03:57 PM
i think y'all are nuts enough ......a simple cordless drill does the trick perfect and you can figure out with the little torque numbers how tight you want to go and just zip them on ......you poor people i feel so sorry for you....... my dad only ever lost 2 in the 10 years he owned his 1989 chevy and never lost any on his 99 and the 02 duramax still has all of them....

i mean all they do is cover things up for a clean look....if you expect billet aluminum hubcaps 9-10 of you wouldn't polish them and would gripe about them not being shiney......i really do feel sorry for you people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-:t ):h

Lock
02-22-2005, 06:24 PM
Crazy? YES :ro)
I just don't like the way the factory one looks -:t
:grd:

dieselman
02-22-2005, 06:37 PM
i mean all they do is cover things up for a clean look....if you expect billet aluminum hubcaps 9-10 of you wouldn't polish them and would gripe about them not being shiney......i really do feel sorry for you people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-:t ):h[/QUOTE]
Congratulations to your dad for not losing them. Not all of us lose them, we just don't like the cheap lug nuts and cap. Feel sorry for me all you want.

RSDay75
02-23-2005, 09:39 AM
Well, I emailed Southwest Wheel and they told me the Center Caps with part# AA004167 were what I needed. I even sent them the picture wantsone posted so they would be sure to see what I was talking about. They just arrived a couple of days ago, and I have not tried them to see if they will fit. (Horrible rainy weather) I will try them this afternoon, but my guess is I will be sending them back. they are 5.125" and if a 4.5" is the right size, then I am SOL.:mad: They also said the Lug Covers were the part# AA000078. I wonder if they fit? If anyone finds out for sure, please post. I will post if the ones I have happen to fit........

Lock
02-23-2005, 10:52 AM
I received an email back from Alcoa this morning, and they recommended 003167 center caps, 5014 lug nuts and 000078 lug nut covers. The 3167, 3267 and 4167 all have the same hub bore measurement per their website. Let us know how it goes!

duramaximizer
02-23-2005, 11:18 AM
ya gettin my point though....i understand that the little plastic ....whatever ya call them.... are cheap and black rather than chrome...but i actually like the look of them

opinion like @ss wholes ...we all have them

haneym
02-23-2005, 05:29 PM
i like em personally. a little cheap, yes but thats the world we live in. just be careful putting em on and taking em off and you should have no problems.

RSDay75
02-23-2005, 07:35 PM
Well, the 4167s don't fit. You might pe able to hold them on with the lug covers, but that would not be very secure. By the way, no need for new lugs, the 0078 covers fit the factory lugs fine. Now I have another idea. The 4167 center caps list a bore of 5 1/8". By my tape they are 5 3/8" to the flange. The stock wheel is 4 1/2". Alcoa makes the 5267 center cap with a bore of 4 1/4" Thus to the flange that would mountthe cap should be 4 1/2". I wonder if the 5267 is what is on whatsone's truck? The 5267 is 2" tall and thay looks like what wantsone has as his cap appears to be the same height as the lug covers. What do you guys think? I may try to send these back tomorrow and exchange them.

gearhead
02-23-2005, 08:16 PM
let us know how it works out

RSDay75
02-25-2005, 12:40 PM
Well, I got a response from Southwest Wheel about using the 5267 Center Cap.....Here is a paste of the entire response when I asked for a little help to see what would fit....(I even emailed a copy of wantsone's picture so they could see exactly what I was talking about)

The factory wheels that come on that particular vehicle are an Alcoa
exclusive. Generally they are only available through the dealer or
alcoa
themselves. You can contact Alcoa @ 1-800-242-9898.

So, I guess I will just send back the center caps and lug covers. Southwest doesn't seem to want to help, and I don't know of any other dealers to check with. As for emails to Alcoa, I have had no response.

Anyone have any other ideas? I guess wantsone was just lucky.......

Lock
02-25-2005, 03:40 PM
I've gotten a response from Alcoa, but she recommended the 3167 caps, but unless they mount from the front and are held in place with the lug nuts, I can't see how they'd work. She's sending me something called a "light truck spec guide" via UPS, so hopefully that will help clear things up. I'll let you know what is in it when it arrives.

Wantsone could just post his part #'s also?

wantsone
02-27-2005, 01:30 AM
Hi,

Sorry I have not been following this lately. I replied the pm's. The lug covers are part # H-79, the center caps are pt # 003267. I got these from Haltec Corp. (330) 222-1501. I also ordered new lugs but did not need them, the stock ones work fine. All I do is snug them by hand with a socket and extension,(no ratchet) and have not lost one yet.

socaldieseltech
02-28-2005, 10:15 PM
I will post some pics tomorrow of aftermarket aluminum center caps with lug covers.

socaldieseltech
03-02-2005, 11:04 PM
Thinking of making a run on these. Trying to see if theres enough interest to make them. Please let me know what you think. http://www.glamisdunes.com/photopost/watermark.php?file=500/3506P3020010-med.JPG

socaldieseltech
03-02-2005, 11:06 PM
these are 100% aluminum , no plastichttp://www.glamisdunes.com/photopost/watermark.php?file=500/3506P3020011-med.JPG

socaldieseltech
03-02-2005, 11:08 PM
They look better when they're all cleaned up. The Bowtie is just stuck on, I would have them blank, or the bowtie or GMC engraved in them. What do you think guys?http://www.glamisdunes.com/photopost/watermark.php?file=500/3506P3020009-med.JPG

smshiver
03-02-2005, 11:49 PM
I'd be interested.

mrmagu
03-03-2005, 12:11 AM
I saw these caps at Socaldieseltech's shop yesterday, they look outstanding will be placing my order...

gearhead
03-03-2005, 07:35 AM
what are they made out of? and about how much? man nice work, looks very cool :cool2: :D

Lock
03-03-2005, 09:26 AM
what are they made out of? and about how much? man nice work, looks very cool :cool2: :D
Same q's, and if reasonably priced -- will be placing an order once we get the go ahead.

towin43
03-03-2005, 02:30 PM
what are they made out of? and about how much? man nice work, looks very cool :cool2: :D
Ditto.

socaldieseltech
03-03-2005, 03:04 PM
They are 100% aluminum, no plastic. The center caps are 1 piece of aluminum, machined down, so it starts as 1 big chunk. The lugnut covers are also made 1 by 1. There is alot involved to make a set, and the material is not cheap. I am trying to put some prices together, but it looks like its going to be $300-$350 a set. Keep in mind the factory wheels are forged, this is one way of keeping forged wheels with a nice look. If you go with aftermarket forged wheels, they are spendy. Still interested? Let me know, the more orders, the better the price of course. The center caps will be blank.

Lock
03-03-2005, 05:50 PM
Those look great, but just too expen$ive for me at this time. I like how they are alum (not chromed plastic), but I guess that is what makes them cost more too...

Thanks

socaldieseltech
03-03-2005, 09:54 PM
Yes they are polished with clear over them and aluminum, so they are quite a bit more than plastic.

duramaximizer
03-05-2005, 03:32 AM
way to expensive for me but i will very nice work and very professionally done.

BERK
03-05-2005, 03:08 PM
Here...http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7958395870&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT

gearhead
03-06-2005, 05:52 PM
Here...http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7958395870&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT


that is what we want to get rid of!

CottonWoodBlues
03-06-2005, 06:30 PM
I've been following this thread since it started. Before I switched to the H2 wheels, I really hated those center caps. Still do. They're a Bi*ch to clean, besides the other issues stated here. But now that I'm into these H2's, I'm pretty much stuck with them for the duration. Unless someone comes up with a nice looking cap that can also be applied to the H2's as well. If I still had the stock PYO's, I'd be on those nice machined aluminum caps shown above. I'll be watching... BB

RSDay75
03-07-2005, 09:24 AM
Finally had some nice weather. I got the 4167 Alcoa centers to work. They are held on with the 0078 lug covers. Holds very tight. The 4167 are a 4" deep cap. Shorter center caps from Alcoa would work, but I really liked the look of these. After finally getting them on, I have no problem with the lug covers holding the center cap. They are very solid

Lock
03-07-2005, 09:36 AM
Finally had some nice weather. I got the 4167 Alcoa centers to work. They are held on with the 0078 lug covers. Holds very tight. The 4167 are a 4" deep cap. Shorter center caps from Alcoa would work, but I really liked the look of these. After finally getting them on, I have no problem with the lug covers holding the center cap. They are very solid
Cool! Can you explain how/what holds them on with the lug covers. Wantsone PM'd me back and said the same thing -- held from the front with the lug covers. Is there a "lip" on the center cover that rests under the lug covers? No worries about losing one on the freeway?
Thanks

aka108
03-07-2005, 10:16 AM
Was taking a good look at son-in-laws Dodge yesterday and the aluminum wheels on his were good looking (hate to admit it) and void of the plastic that GM seems to covet. Don't know why GM can't design something similar, get back to 8 regular lug nuts and get rid of those plastic things with the cruddy phoney plastic lug caps.

gearhead
03-07-2005, 10:21 AM
Finally had some nice weather. I got the 4167 Alcoa centers to work. They are held on with the 0078 lug covers. Holds very tight. The 4167 are a 4" deep cap. Shorter center caps from Alcoa would work, but I really liked the look of these. After finally getting them on, I have no problem with the lug covers holding the center cap. They are very solid
I would love to see some pictures and prices

RSDay75
03-07-2005, 03:00 PM
Yes, the center caps have a lip that is held on by the covers. Put the covers on hand tight with a socket and an extension but no rachet. They are so tight that you cannot spin the center cap. No way it could come off. I will try and get some pics if ti is not dark when I get off work today. Southwest Wheel had the caps for about $18 and the lug covers were just shy or $1.....still not super cheap by the time you do all 4 wheels, but less than new wheels.