Has anybody run against a stock PS 6.0 ? Just curious,cuz a friend of mine is talkin trash.

them Furds are quick, but only until they dont start:D
I had a buddy that had one and we ran heads up whenwe were both stock, it was pretty even, three months later ford bought his truck back and now hes drivin a DMAX):h

Glad to hear we converted another one to Chevy http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/hihi.gif

I raced a buddy's new 6.0 with my 03 d/a and he said if I WON HE WOULD GO AND BUY A NEW DURAMAX..........GUESS WHAT HE'S DRIVIN NOW LOL

That's 2 ):h ):h

how much did you beat him by hdd-max?

by almost 2 seconds ):h he was talkin shCensored all week before we went. there was something wrong with his truck though he ran an 18.50 :eek: He worked for me at the time so the monday after the races i called a meeting and all my employee's watched the video ( he didn't know my wife video taped it) :ro) They were laughing there arses off but most of them bet on him to win though..:rolleyes:
we raced again after he "got it fixed" and the same outcome again. :cool:

The look on his face was probably priceless!:D

Was he juiced?

hdd-max, maybe your employee was looking for someone to put him out of his misery and give him an excuse to "upgrade" to the Duramax? ):h

Funny thing though? On the 6.0 diesel site they're smoking Duramax's! They even refer to them as Duramaxipads! ):h Wazzup wi' dat? :rolleyes:

Personally I like the exterior of the Dodge, the interior of the Ford, and the Duramax/Allison combination of the GM. Each has their plus's and minus's. They're all fun to drive though! Happy Holidays DP members and staff. JJ :)

The 6.0L Powerstroke is dead even with the LB7 and slightly faster than the LLY in the 1/4 mile.

How is the LB7 faster than the LLY, when the LB7 ratings is lower?

It takes longer for the "VVT" turbo on the LLY to build boost. Again, these races are done with a no boost launch. Doing it this way measures how these diesels pull from their idle rpm all the way through to redline. It might be slightly different if you were to "power brake" these trucks.

It is. No one that really wants to race runs off idle, everyone revs at least to 1500. On my lly I start spinning the 285s at 1800...

You must be looking at something like what the magazines do for testing then? I don't know anyone that would run that way except for something like that.

Not to burst your bubble

Stock to stock, I have an 01 LB7 and 04 LLY, my LB7 beats my LLY by about a truck length in 1/4 mile. A buddy has the PSD6.0 04 and it beat both my trucks. The difference I saw was out of the hole he jumped me and the distance after that remained pretty close.

I've raced two of my friends that own 6.0L Fords, one is a 2003 and the other is a 2004. Both of them are extended cab short box's. Both Ford's have 265's-the same tire size I'm running. We raced from idle. The Ford's do get a jump on the LB7-it's quite quick out of the hole. But about 30mph, my truck started to gradually pull on both of their trucks. Basically, by the time I reached the 97mph speed limiter, I was about a half truck length ahead. This was before ANY modifications were done with any of the trucks. Close race.

The 6.0s don't have nearly the turbo lag that my LLY does from a dead stop.

My teammate is heavily considering a new PSD. You can bet we'll line 'em up every chance we get. He still has it in for me after my Z06 whooped up on his Supra :)

Every time my bud lines his 04 PSD up against my 05 LLY we have a different outcome (yea we line em up pretty regularly on lear blvd.), it does seem to me the PSD is a bit quicker out of the hole but it really depends on who gets the holeshot. If he gets it he usually wins (albeit I'm right on his a**) and if I get the holeshot he goes down by about a truck length. With my predator on 40hp it's no contest, right outta the hole he's dead, I'd say unless he's got a dog or I've got an unusually good LLY they're pretty evenly matched, it comes down to who's the better driver IMHO.

The old guy of the bunch has a dudge tripple nickle, he lined up against the psd one time, wasn't pretty. Roasted out of the hole and walking him almost the entire strip, he knows how to pull the heavy loads though.

them Furds are quick, but only until they dont start:D
Or the tube from the intercooler to the turbo pops off during a test drive! I experienced that on a 2003 6.0L with only 16k miles in perfect condition-except, apparently, for that tube!

The 6.0s don't have nearly the turbo lag that my LLY does from a dead stop.
I experienced exactly the opposite with an '05 PSD and an '05 D/A. The D/A had less lag and was quicker from a stop or already moving.

Funny. I was going to buy a Ford 6.0.

The unit I tested would not break the tires no matter how hard I powerbraked it. I read on the Ford Diesel board that it was not unusual. Once it got rolling it hauled ass pretty good, certainly has an edge on a stock Duramax.

I can certainly spin the tires in 2WD on a boosted launch in a stock Duramax.

Truth of the matter is, a 7500lb truck with 300, 310, 325 HP is not "fast". But in the battle of mod's a $350 tuner added to any of them will make them as quick or quicker than any V8 3/4ton gas truck. Spend some more, and you can beat even the "racing" trucks like the SRT-10 or Lightning.

If you like power, and need a heavy pickup, nothing currently beats the Duramax for ease of modification and output. Is there any other truck made that will make 500rwhp without touching the motor/turbo or spraying drugs into it? Can't think of any.

I think to many people here read magazine shootouts between fords and LLY's in 100 degree weather. Maybe a LLY would lose to the 6.0PSD if the fan clutch was locked. I have a brother in law that has a brand new 05 PSD and have raced a few 6.0's. The stock fords are beat fairly easily with my stock 04 LLY. All races I've been in have been real similar. Starts out both trucks run fairly neck and neck, but at about 25 - 30 miles per hour I pull away fairly quickly til at 60 a truck length. This has happened 4 or 5 times now. I know my LLY is not a fast LLY because my freinds 04 LLY and mine run neck and neck, stock. I also drove the PSD befor buying my GMC because I have bought Fords my whole life - this is my first GM product. When I drove it I thought the power was good until I drove a D-max. This rides alot better too.

Can you expound on what you mean by fan clutch locked? Why would that make a difference?

The LLY has a fan from H#LL. Sounds like about 50 horsepower gone and if you stood the truck on the rear bumper you could launch it with that fan.

How about an Apples to Apples Comparison?

Everyone is talking this is one is faster than that one.
One thing that makes a huge difference in all these "comparisons" is
how these trucks are configured especially the axle gear ratio!
It'll make all the difference in the world.

Where is all this new subscription activity coming from?

I don't know about racing a Ford or Dodge, but I raced my 05 LLY against a Mexican Burro, and LOST by quite a bit. LLY was stock, but the Burro was primed with oats fermented in mescal (apparently couldn't afford tequila).

Hey Gardnerteam, sounds like that burro was running a hot mix ):h

subscursion you are right, I know that I am running 373 gearing, but not sure what the PS has...

I was looking at the ford site the other day and I am pretty sure that the 6.0L with the torque shift only comes with 3.73 in the SRW 3/4 ton but I could be mistaking.

Being a die-hard Chevrolet fan since the early 70’s GM eluded me in 92 over my IFS. I switched to Ford in 1995 purchasing a 7.3 and currently have a 2003 6.0 with Torque Shift transmission.

I will answer any question you have. Keep it clean, I did not come here to be bashed, and information can be shared.

The 6.0s don't have nearly the turbo lag that my LLY does from a dead stop.

My teammate is heavily considering a new PSD. You can bet we'll line 'em up every chance we get. He still has it in for me after my Z06 whooped up on his Supra :)
After the mods, there is no comparison. There is a guy in Dunn, NC that has a dually DMax pushing 748 HP. He smokes his Z06 Corvette allt he time. But when people have money, they can pretty much do what they like.