Where would the plug in be located on a 2002 duramax? I have no idea and do not feel like reading the owners manual.

********It is corrected now. I apologize to all that were offended by the errors. Also, I am sorry that upon purchasing my truck I did not immediately read my owners manual, but instead asked for some friendly help. Funny thing is, I was reading this board for help on other subjects and noticed where people were plugging in their trucks. So I asked a question hoping a kind sole would answer the question. It seemed a little quicker than reading the book. However, it seems to have started a thread a mile long about how the question was written. I appreciate the help from those that helped answer my question in a straight forward manor. It made finding the plug a quick and painless process. I hope to maybe one day be able to return the favor to someone.

Zip-tied to the wire loom located underneath the airbox/coolant bottle area. You should try to read the owners manual, seeing proper English might help you type a complete sentence.

also if you peel back the wire loom when you find it and cut some of the electrical tape you can pull it farthur outa the loom and get some more slack to wroute it out your bumper hole or some place like that.

Thank you for your help with the plug in. I am very sorry. I understand that some people need to worry about the way you write on an internet message board. But some people do not revolve their whole life around insulting other people. Further, I can assure you that I am very well educated. If you feel the need to write complete sentences, please do so. I am sorry, but I will write any way I damn well I please:ro) . That is why people continue to get up every morning and put on a uniform to protect my rights and even your rights. So please continue the english police patrol, we all know no message board can be complete without at least one aCensoredhole.

thank you

a$$hole remark#1- Every morning. Two Words

a$$hole remark#2- At least. Two words

a$$hole remark#3- How can you expect people not to say anything if you are too lazy to read your owner's manual.

a$$hole remark#4- You're lucky that these guys were not as lazy as you to post a reply to your question.

Thank you! It blows me away how lazy some people can be. A simple "thank you" would have been sufficient. Maybe even a "pretty please" Not the best way to ask for help.a$$hole remark#1- Every morning. Two Words

a$$hole remark#2- At least. Two words

a$$hole remark#3- How can you expect people not to say anything if you are too lazy to read your owner's manual.

a$$hole remark#4- You're lucky that these guys were not as lazy as you to post a reply to your question.

I wonder if anybody in the psychological profession as ever used internet forums as a gauge of seasonal stress levels. I only say this because on each of the three forums I regularly read there as been a marked increase in the bickering lately. I think everybody's fuse is a little shorter during this busy time of the year. Maybe I am full of crap as well.

Good call! I got a REAL short fuse today!

ThisisthefirstI'veheardthatI'mprotectedagainstinco mpletesentences!

Now that is a real nice way to welcome someone to the Diesel Place. Max Payne, you have a point, but maybe you could simply suggest that he read the owners manual and leave the "editorial rhetoric" out of your reply.

It's just my opinion, but I think that Max Payne was justified here. I, for one, am not willing to help those who are unwilling to help themselves! General Motors throws the owner's manual in for free when you buy a $40,000 truck, so take advantage of it!

For what it's worth, I'm anal as hell about writing and speaking correctly. I have an excellent high school English teacher to thank for that.

P.S. Max Payne is not an asshole in my book. He has provided dependable information to me several times when I asked in a semi-intelligent, courteous manner.

I had already read the owners manual cover to cover AND the diesel suppliment prior to leaving the lot.. But, I made the DEALER find the plug. Figured I'd toss a wrench at the service counter since they didn't know anything about diesels anyway.

Maybe I should provide a reason for what I did.

Reason #1. As a tech, I find it very irritating when I am given a repair order that has a complaint which is really a normal condition. This is a waste of my time, and I rearely get paid to explain to the customer that this is a normal condition and why. This can be the fault of three people (In the order I feel that it should have been dealt with)

The Salesperson: Most salespeople do not take the time required to explain features of a vehicle, nor do they know of the features themselves. This irritates me.

The Customer: After the salesmen not telling them what they need to know, the customer needs to read the owners manual from cover to cover. Put it in the crapper for Christ's sake! Even if you aren't regular, you could have it read in a week! Granted, the owners manuals aren't the greatest thing on earth, but they can and do answer a lot of questions. Some things aren't in the manual, that is a given. At least try!

The Service Writer: If the customer has not found out what they need by now, they bring it to the service dept. and have it written up. About 30% of the write ups in our service dept. are "No problem found" This is where a knowledgeable service writer would be able to help the customer with the information they need (if they haven't already been told by the salesperson or found it in the owners manual). If a service writer cared enough to help in this situation, it would prevent a customer from leaving their vehicle all day just to find out that they didn't even have a problem. This usually irritates customers more than if they really had a problem, because it is a waste of everyone's time. This brings me to the "grammar police".

Some people do not care how they spell or punctuate because they believe it isn't important. Maybe it isn't. But it is how you are presenting yourself to the world. I cannot see you. I cannot hear you. I do not know how bad you smell. All I know is that when I see an entire paragraph without a period, punctuation, capitol letter, and half of the words horribly misspelled, it makes me wonder. Can this person read? Did they make it past 6th grade? Do they have a brain tumor? Here is an example of why I think so highly of spelling and grammar. This is a repair order that I get ALL THE TIME:

Cust States: Klunk in strging pleese advise
Cust States: preform recal 04007 Tailgat cabels

I am not kidding you, this is how some service advisors write a repair order. Why does this irritate me? Because even if I do a perfect job on that repair, the customer sees this on their invoice and now Airport Chevrolet looks bad. I do not want my dealership to be represented like this. How would you feel if you saw your invoice looking like this?

So you can see, I fight a battle every day. Some days I win, some I lose. I must have been losing yesterday, and I came off like an A-hole. If I did, I am sorry. I am actually a pretty nice guy, and I love my job.

Max Payne, you are alright in my book. Since you did nothing wrong, no need to defend yourself.

I too have little room for people who are too lazy to research their own questions. I only come on the board with a question as a last resort. Most times I find answers to my questions by just reading the comments on the board.

Writing does seem to be a lost art. For those who think "who cares, I can do what I want" fine, just don't expect much of an answer.

If I ever have problems with my truck, when we are down in Oregon, I will look you up. We usually travel to Bend or Florence.

Complete answers to most of my questions have been available through the forums search function.

I would be lost without this place.

Communicating on a forum base system always has its misinterpretations. You have to take comments with a grain of salt. There is no winner in this argument. The goal here is to share knowledge. There will always be someone that will rub you the wrong way. Just be nice and keep the peace. :)

As an Electronics tech reading the manuals and/or instructions is a must. I had a guy come to fix my television. When he started getting into it he opened up his manual to chapter 2 of the repair instructions. He spent over an hour trying to figure out how to get the projector out of my telvision. I took his manual and looked at it. Then I showed him Chapter 1 which told how to remove the proper parts to get the projector out.

So you can see, I fight a battle every day. Some days I win, some I lose. I must have been losing yesterday, and I came off like an A-hole. If I did, I am sorry. I am actually a pretty nice guy, and I love my job.


Max Payne ..... The way I see it, you have made about 290 posts to date, and almost every one of them provided excellent, to the point answers that helped many members on this board. Even though this particular question was not presented very well, you still took the time to respond. I think this does make you a "nice guy" and I hope you will continue posting away. By the way, it was not you that came off poorly.

As a side, I think one of the reasons service writers screw up the entries the way they do is because they just don't know how to type!

Bravo Bartman :ro)


We could all stand to be a little more polite to one another.
But even more so the pros, who, with a little more patience towards those less knowledgable that are seeking help or guidance here, would surely be helping to provide a more positive image of the many others who are also involved in the already highly skeptical & mostly lowly regarded repair industry.
Extending anything less the the courtesy you would expect Grandma to recieve would be a good benchmark to strive for.

Happy Holidays to all...