Today I was driving to work. I'm in Minnesota, this morning it was 15 degrees out. Atitude read 100% slippage all the way to work, 15 miles or so. Even in 5th with t/c locked. Edge wouldn't work after 180 degrees water temp. Drove home this afternoon and it started to work again. I usually run in level 4, pretty much drive it normal, what I'm trying to say is that I don't beat the sh*t out of it. Had a few misses trying to accelerate in 5th t/c locked like injector problem. I already had to injectors replaced a month ago and egr valve. Also truck feels like has vibration from that decreases when I turn the power levels down. Checked tranny fluid and is nice red color and dosen't smell burnt. I can't imagine that trans has a problem. Also I haven't ever run any additives. Should I be? Thanks

Try to disconnect the edge box and see if it does it in stock trim...

Disconnect the juice.....I would bet that the juice is actin funny cause if you were slippin 100% for that long with the t/c locked in 5th your tranny would let you know.

Just unhooked juice, went down highway and truck runs perfect, no problems at all. Has anyone had problem with there edge boxes going bad? I'm going to see if I can get a new one.

Don't have one yet but I've read just about every post on them and many have made mentioned of having to send theirs back due to problems similar to yours.

Good luck!

lots o f threads on this. do a search should be easy to find. just sent mine back to edge for same thing. we had some 0 degree weather, and the edge through a complete fit nelson 05 chev.

Today I was driving to work. I'm in Minnesota, this morning it was 15 degrees out. Atitude read 100% slippage all the way to work, 15 miles or so. Even in 5th with t/c locked. Edge wouldn't work after 180 degrees water temp. Drove home this afternoon and it started to work again. I usually run in level 4, pretty much drive it normal, what I'm trying to say is that I don't beat the sh*t out of it. Had a few misses trying to accelerate in 5th t/c locked like injector problem. I already had to injectors replaced a month ago and egr valve. Also truck feels like has vibration from that decreases when I turn the power levels down. Checked tranny fluid and is nice red color and dosen't smell burnt. I can't imagine that trans has a problem. Also I haven't ever run any additives. Should I be? Thanks
My truck did the exact same thing this morning. It was 22 degrees here for the first time all year and it would not run. I have a 45 mile drive to work and the truck never got over 180 degrees, even running 80mph. When I would step on the gas it would just buck like crazy. I just turned my Juice off and the problem went away.

This could be a problem with the operating temp being so close to the activation point for the Juice. I just assumed the Juice was kicking in and out and did not know what to do.

I still can't figure this damn truck out. In the summer it overheats and now in the winter it won't hit proper operating temps!! :confused:

Here is another question that relates to this. If you put the Juice on level 0 when it is cold and let the truck warm up and then change the level to your desired level could this help eliminate some of these temperature problems? Also why do you have to remove the juice when having problems? Couldn't you just set it to 0? doesn't that just pass the ECM signals straight through with no modifications?

Here is another question that relates to this. If you put the Juice on level 0 when it is cold and let the truck warm up and then change the level to your desired level could this help eliminate some of these temperature problems? Also why do you have to remove the juice when having problems? Couldn't you just set it to 0? doesn't that just pass the ECM signals straight through with no modifications?
You are right I misspoke. When I said I removed the Juice I meant I just set it to 0. From day one (even in 100 degree weather) I have had to let my truck warm up on level 0 and once up to operating temps I could up the levels on the Attitude. I think now my problem is that the truck never reaches operating temps. :confused:

Justified HD2, Ditto!!

I am having exactly same problem. Started occurring when temps are under 30. Tryed restarting truck after up to temp and problem still there. Installed a new Juice last night and same problem. Edge told me to have my truck reflashed with updates. They told me that they haven't heard of this (right). I am in contact with my dealing trying to set it up. Hope it works. I'll provide feedback as I am able.

Justified HD2, Ditto!!

I am having exactly same problem. Started occurring when temps are under 30. Tryed restarting truck after up to temp and problem still there. Installed a new Juice last night and same problem. Edge told me to have my truck reflashed with updates. They told me that they haven't heard of this (right). I am in contact with my dealing trying to set it up. Hope it works. I'll provide feedback as I am able.
I've had the reflash and it made no difference.........................

This is one reason I went away form the EDGE...I am currently running the Predator; it is cheapier and I am happy with the proformance so far. I also live in MN and yesterday was pretty cold (14 degrees F) truck sat all day outside and had no issues with the 65 setting when I started it.

OK, Had my computer reflashed just now. The only updates that weren't current were the transfer case and the anti-lock brakes. Something strange about the occurrence is that my trans slip does not necessarily read 100%. It picks a number between 0 and 100% and when it locks on, it display's either 0 when I'm stopped, or any number in between 0 and 100 which is always consistent from the time it first occurred until I restart the truck. I've seen numbers from 5.7 to 26.5 as the alternative to 100. Another thing is that I have a heated garage. When I take the truck out in the AM, the slippage diplay appears normal for a short time and then it picks the number that it locks on, always before it gets to 180 engine temp. The truck always runs between 180 and 190 on the display after it warms up, even today at 8 F, and remains running like stock even after up to temp. Truck runs perfect with edge removed. I think the edge has an issue here.

Here is another question that relates to this. If you put the Juice on level 0 when it is cold and let the truck warm up and then change the level to your desired level could this help eliminate some of these temperature problems? Also why do you have to remove the juice when having problems? Couldn't you just set it to 0? doesn't that just pass the ECM signals straight through with no modifications?
No it doesn't appear to. You would think it should.



Please, would a couple of you disconnect the attitude and try again. Other anomolies have been remedied by disconnecting it, would like to see if this is the case here. I will communicate the results to edge if you will let me know.

I have Edge only (no Attitude) even after my truck hit the temp. that the power kicks in normally it still didn't feel like the Edge was coming on.I think it was around 18 degrees here this morning.The truck ran smooth just no Edge power.I only drive 10 miles to work.Right before I got to work the power finally came on.

Hmmm, All LLY's

OK, I want to clarify.

Even here in Phoenix winter, it takes forever for post 180 temps to occur, and I've even had it kick out, going down an off-ramp, going under 180, too much cooling. So I wonder if all of you guys with the cold, have a cold-front cover on?

Edge really needs to recognize that out first T-stat starts to open at the same point it has been programmed to enable. We need 160 degree edge enabled. Like the LB7 was.

Unfortunately, all Beta testing was done in the summer.

Hmmm, All LLY's

Edge really needs to recognize that out first T-stat starts to open at the same point it has been programmed to enable. We need 160 degree edge enabled. Like the LB7 was.
I couldn't agree more :D

FYI unpulging my Attitude did not change a thing (V1.5).

Edge kicked in right from cold start since first bought, soon as weather got colder, cold starts with Edge even on level 1, weird noises from the turbo on cold start,then soon after on start and shut down. Then installed winter front (grill cover only) after warm-up on freeway truck would buck and miss uphill when boosting to 13 + lbs. on cruise. Switched Edge to stock level and all problems went away,has run perfectly since.(still on stock level).

Also with Edge on,cold start high idle would be a little rough while idle up and would blue smoke like crazy,now on stock level does fine,very little smoke.

"stock level"?? What is this, level 0, or disconnected?

If your edge is enabled when cold, it is defective, or erroneous temp signals from ECM.

Level 1 is what it was at while the GM tech was there with me, we left the truck overnight, then cold start and shut down the noise was there,then set Edge to level 0, re-started and no more noise from the turbo.. we did this a few times with same results, the tech then took it to his bay and cleared all the codes for me,changed the oil and the truck has run great since. It is still on level 0.

I know it sounds crazy that the edge kicked in when cold as has been told to me here b4, GM tech told me the same thing,but agrees it must have been going on
because now on "0" everythings fine.Harness pins have been checked.

I agree,the Edge must be defective,I hope this info helps someone .

Actually, I'd like to buy it from you. :ro) Wish mine did the same. Thanks for the information.

Spoke with edge today and next day aired one to me for 30 bucks. Hopefully it works. Worked intermittantly today. I'll keep you guys posted. JHD

If you see my previous post's you'll see that I just tried a replacement edge box and the problem still remains. Plus, even if it is a temperature issue it does not explain the slippage indication on the display. Yes, keep me posted.

FLLLY

I had the slippage indicator problem with mine, at the time I also noticed some fuel knock and seemed like a lack of power, but also exteremly good mileage, all of which scared me. Called them and got a new juice box last week. Still have problems with the slip indicator in level 0, but works fine on other levels. Called them and more or less they said it was probably a glitch but should not cause any problems. To me it is no big deal if it is just a glitch in level 0 only, but to me a glitch is still a problem and hopefully it doesn's indicate any problems elsewhere in the system. We'll see.

Bill

It was in the teens this morning in middle Tennessee and my LLY was doing the same stuff you guys are talking about. Slippage reading 100 or N, also my truck seems to sort of sort of buck like it's missing when the temp gets to about 180-185. Turn the Edge to level 0 and it runs smooth as silk but the slippage reading is still weird.
Are these issues Edge is addressing? Should I contact them about an update or etc?

ScotD1,

Waiting for a reply from Justified HD2. Since it was a bit warmer in MN today, I don't expect that he experienced the problem. Mine worked fine this morning. It's gonna get cold in the next couple days, so we should have some more feedback. If you have an "in" at Edge or a way of positioning yourself to make something happen, go for it. I don't have the time right now. As I mentioned before, they denied hearing of the problem when I got my box exchanged this week (was a refurb or return by the way). Maybe someone should refer them to this thread. If I don't get a fix then I think I'll end up with a useless unit for the next 4 month's (unacceptable!).

I spoke to the VP of Engineering today to relay the issues the LLY has had. He said he will look into it further, as he was not aware of the problems. That can happen sometimes, plus I don't think he is in product development much. If I get more information, i will pass it on.

I installed new box and haven't had an issue yet. Not saying that I'm not going to in future. Edge told me that they are having trouble duplicating are concerns. I told them to put my box on one of there trucks and see what happens. Who knows if they will, have to wait and see. They do take your name and number to be notified when new programming comes out. So everybody call edge, give name and number and let them reconize that we have some issues, not just one or two of us but all of us. lets get our hard earned moneys worth. Whata ya think?

JHD

I think edge has a hard time getting their hands on trucks with specific problems at times. If anyone is close enough to take their truck to edge that has specific problems it would speed up the process.

New box is not fix either. -5 deg here in Mn. Attitude slip reads 100 all the time again. Put cold front on, when 180 temp achieved no juice still. I think edge has programming issue with cold weather. This is dissapointing because when hauling 40ft enclosed out west to go mountain riding I guess I can expect to drive out there stock. Hope they have a fix for this soon, really like the edge but this is a bummer. Forest Lake LLY you still havin problems?
JHD

JHD
Make sure you participate in the poll.

I did. Thanks for putting the poll together.

Justified HD2: Still have the same problems. Mine hasn't really worked for a month. Kinda pissin me off. Sent an email to Edge today reiterating my issues. If anyone gets a response from Edge, please post it.

I noticed that the Attitude will reflect 100% slippage on the Stock-0 setting. In the 1-5 setting the % slippage works fine. If your Attitude is still showing 100% slippage in the 1-5 settings, has your truck warmed up to Edge operating temp ?

45 minutes of driving, coolant temp in the 190's and dosen't work. It's been working fine since weather has been warmer. Attitude ahs been working lately, slip meter I'm referring too. This morning it was 25f got to 186f coolant temp and juice not working again. The module temp is what I think is causing it. I'm going to try and "insulate" the box this weekend and see if this helps. Other than these issues edge is great. Have a safe new years everyone!

I"m having the same problems as you guys. As soon as the temp hits around 175, it bucks until the temp hits 180, then the juice is working and the bucking stops. It blows blue smoke when idling high and smells a lot too...Whats the number to call Edge? Anyone in particular I should talk to? thanks.

another 1 poster. How is that the same problem posted here? Buddy, contact your edge dealer and beat the crap out of him. Or do a little homework. Go participate in the poll!

Blue smoke at high idle may be normal on these trucks...heavy equipment does the same when high idle is on.