Well folks u have all been very helpful but i have gotten rid of the biggest head ache of my life (no not my wife) the 6.5 truck !!!!!!!!
so thanks again but bye bye yall

So buy a Duramax!!!:D

You sold your Ford? :D congratulations

Good luck with whatever you buy next.

Yea I got rid of my headache too
But mine was my wife.

my inlaws:D

Well, I took the time to read through your "trouble" post. The consistent theme that I see there (and in many other threads) is a lack of logical and progressive troubleshooting effort. The completed Diagnostic Checklist was requested and the response was (paraphrasing) "new parts". The problem lies in the fact that the 6.5 is a strange and fickle beast.

As some had pointed out in that thread, you can put "new parts" on a 6.5 (as you did), but without proper diagnostics you can just literally be throwing your money away (as you did). The electronic 6.5 turbo diesel was the introduction of electronic controls to the diesel world (as least in North America) and this paradigm shift was never fully accepted by the public at large. With the inter-dependency of systems and the not-so-logical cross-linked algorithm's of the PCM, the 6.5 electronic was the first of light duty truck diesel engines to really rely heavily on fault trees and diagnostic lists for proper diagnosis.

It is a shame that you had such a bad experience with your (first?) 6.5 diesel. I can't help but think that if you had utilized the resources here more readily then you may not have had the heart ache and the considerably lighter wallet.

I wish you the best of luck with your next vehicle, especially if it's a diesel as any newer diesels will only be even more complex and expensive to repair...

Regards,

I echo Goldsburg sediment.

In twenty years of troubleshooting machines and systems of different kinds, many people are quick to throw parts at the problem.

I'll be the first to admit, I fall victim to it too.

Problem troubleshooting, in 8 simple questions
when is there a problem,
where is there a problem,
what is a problem
what extent is the problem
The inverse of the previous 4 questions

Ask those eight questions enough, looking for the common answers will show the root cause. It can take 10 times, complicated problems could take 100's of times.

Shortcutting this process can cost you BIG BUCKS!!!

I hope you have better luck with your next vehicle.

I hope I have better luck with my first 6.5, because I really don't need any more headaches!

I'm not sure if adding aftermarket stuff to these trucks causes some of their problems or if they are just prone to them. On that note I really want to add a WVO system ,an Inter-cooler, and some gauges to my Suburban.

Goldsburg deposits valuable "sediment" on many topics, and this one is no exception.

x3 for Goldsburg!

:D (couldn't resist).

I echo Goldsburg sediment.....

Goldsburg deposits valuable "sediment" on many topics, and this one is no exception.

x3 for Goldsburg!

:D (couldn't resist).

"...deposits sediment..."

Is that the same as dropping a "deuce"? :D

Regards,

those darn engineers, can't spell sentiment

darn, I R 1

When I bought my first 6.5(I now have two) I was defeated before I even tried. I have worked on heavy equipment and trucks my whole life, went to college for diesel , rebuilt macks, detroits cats and looked at the electronics on the 6.5 and said I can't work on this. well 500$ later worth of repairs from the moron chevy dealer(who I thought would know how to fix this thing) it still didnt run right . Stalling problem. Guess what ? I joined this forum, bought a heath PMD kit and the truck was fixed. The rest is history. I would not hesitate to work on one now. The only bridge left to cross for me is timing the pump. Hopefully someday a tech 2 in my future.

well in my own defence i spent many hours with my laptop sitting next to me in the garage while i was going through the check lists on this and other sites. i also have spent alot of time with 6.5 mechanics both on the phone and in person trying to figure out what kind of gremlins it had. the NEW PARTS were only put on after having narowed it down to them. i just decided that i had enough of losing time from work and my life working on that engine.

well in my own defence i spent many hours with my laptop sitting next to me in the garage while i was going through the check lists on this and other sites. i also have spent alot of time with 6.5 mechanics both on the phone and in person trying to figure out what kind of gremlins it had. the NEW PARTS were only put on after having narowed it down to them. i just decided that i had enough of losing time from work and my life working on that engine.
No worries. I have thought about throwing in the towel on mine as well. Take more of an enthusiast to work on 'em at times.

Sometimes turning wrenches can be down right frustrating. If I had the money, a shiny new Duramax under warranty is where I'd be :D

No worries. I have thought about throwing in the towel on mine as well. Take more of an enthusiast to work on 'em at times.

Sometimes turning wrenches can be down right frustrating. If I had the money, a shiny new Duramax under warranty is where I'd be :D

Me want Duramax :)

There's nothing more rewarding than un-earthing that little troubling trinket that confounds the engine from running properly... It's almost like winning the lottery. However, not all of us have enough time to invest in digging up that little do-dad that is giving us trouble if it's a hard to find problem. Sorry it ended this way for ya. Maybe the new owner may find their way here, and we can try again.

Had this happen recently with a friend of mine in NC. Had a Dodge Caravan given to him because it left the p/o's wife stranded no-start one-too-many times. Turns out it was a bad solder joint on the back of the instrument panel. Always started when it got back to the dealership after being towed. Now, he's got a decent running machine that starts every time... or at least until something else breaks.