: Rhino Liner issues just a heads up..
Lonewolf867 12-09-2004, 09:31 AM A Buddy of mine has a dodge truck that he had rhino lined. The truck was in cherry condition when purchased and he wanted to keep it that way. SOOOOOO
He had the rocker panels lined to "protect " the truck from rock chips and road salt.
Fast forward two years.......
Ben in his Dodge truck are rolling down a dark Minnesota road and BAM!!! Deer decides to commit suicide and take out the side of his truck.
Ben takes his pride and joy into the body shop. After making them sign papers agreeing to tuck it in every night and blow it a kiss as the garage door closes he proceeds home to sulk over the fact that he will be without his truck for several days.
A couple of days later the body shop calls him and ask what he wants them to do about the RUST that was under the rhino liner on the fender. He couldn't believe it and goes down to the shop.
You can see the fender at http://community.webshots.com/album/229266647KPvuja .
Rhino has not commented on this only to say that their warranty only covers the bed of the truck and they are not responsible for body panels.
He has gotten the local shop to strip the rest off of the body so he can check it out.
We will see how it goes. Just wanted to see if anyone else has seen anything like this? I think I will wait a little longer before I have my rockers coated.
Mike
lakingslayer 12-09-2004, 09:52 AM Never thought about using Rhino liner on the rocker panels. I guess I never will now.
JRKRACE 12-09-2004, 10:32 AM Geez...How can a body shop "strip" that stuff off? I have my bed sprayed and it seems like nothing will take that stuff off...
Diesel Dually 12-09-2004, 11:00 AM Geez...How can a body shop "strip" that stuff off? I have my bed sprayed and it seems like nothing will take that stuff off...
With a big grinder and lots of pads!
Lonewolf867 12-09-2004, 01:36 PM I want to clarify. I am not bashing the Rhino at this time. This realy took me by surprise as well as the owner of the Dodge. All of the answers are not in yet on what happened or how. I do know that Rhino is being very "careful" shall we say. They are leaving it all in the installers hands. It very well could be an install issue.
Mike
Heartbeat Hauler 12-09-2004, 02:02 PM I remember a couple of years ago or so a thread about Rhino and how that product was not all that great. Especially compared to Line X and Armour Coat(?).
ratlover 12-09-2004, 02:40 PM armourthane(sp?) is what i believe its called. I have it, its not like line ex or rhino. its much thicker and very rubbery. This can be good or bad depending on what you want. I must say though that it has held up very well. I run around with about 1k of bricks in the bed durring the winter and it still looks new. I think with any product a big thing is the installer.
akdiesel 12-09-2004, 04:24 PM I find it har to believe that rust had started under the Rhino Lining, if it was done correctly. Rust needs three things to get the chemical reaction going. Iron, water, and air.
If the installer made a mistake on parts of the install he could have not scuffed the body parts enough to allow for good bonding. This would also trap the moisture and wala. Rust.
There has been reports that Rhino Linings is pouros (did I spell that correctly?). But I don't see how it could let air in as well.
Any one can do a nice job with a rattle can, but in time it can either form bubbles due to rust or flake off because the prep work was not done correctly.
I would get atleast two opinions on the results and give them to your insureance to fight the installer. It does sound like it is their fault.
BUCKSHOTjr 12-09-2004, 04:24 PM Line-X is the way to go!
HDGMC 12-09-2004, 05:14 PM Interesting! I drove a new dodge a year or two ago and the dealer had "special pricing" on several trucks because the trucks had to be repainted at the factory because of bonding problems that showed up before they were shipped. I was told that they were warranted for future paint problems... Seems that this was somewhat widespread and made me sceptical of buying any dodge that may have passed through without showing any problems, but could have future hidden paint defects. Add to this fact that the rhino liner may try to expand and contract at a different rate, while being properly bonded to the top layer of the trucks paint, and it could be hasten the delamination process. I'm not so sure that the problem is not chryslers! BTW I've seen the coating successfully used and recomended for a far broader set of applications than just truck beds. I think I'll check out their web site to see if they show other applications.
yamahagrizzly 12-09-2004, 06:01 PM my advise is if you want a bed liner that looks good but isnt all that tough get a rhino. first hand experiance it sucks. it bubled up then pealed up in one spot they super glued it down. and i got countless amount of cuts init form the type of work i do. some where in the near future i will have to strip my bed of this crap and get something else. rhino liner is a joke.
szippijr 12-09-2004, 06:09 PM nothing like a real bed liner
BlueOx03 12-09-2004, 08:31 PM nothing like a real bed liner
You mean a drop in plasic one that rubs all the paint off and then holds water in the bed to help it rust???
Or Line-X?
It seems Rhino is haveing some installer problems as of late...
Maybe we can have a scraping party and then get a group buy at Line-X ):h
I got a headstart...Rhino in the bed, Line-X on the gate....
Ox
dollyo11 12-10-2004, 12:03 AM First of all it's A Dodge //had one(gasser)- got rid of it// enough said/ Rhino in my bed for two years no problem still looks good
divernj 12-10-2004, 02:20 AM Nothing wrong with Rhino... think about it... Rhino lining doesn't cause metal to rust ! The installer obviously did not prepare the surface correctly and or it was inferior from the factory, I have seen that on Ford trucks a number of years ago. Ford was the absolute worst in finishes. My 2 Trucks -- 10 years of Rhino --- no problems. You have to find an installer that knows what they are doing. That means experience. I know of 2 in my area... one has been in business for over 15 years the other just started... guess who is getting complaints about the other ! :eek:
Lonewolf867 12-10-2004, 02:12 PM This is looking more and more like an installer problem.
The question was asked here about how you stripped it off?
Well it seems that the installer just used a heat gun and peeled it off. Left the paint intact on the truck.
The reinstall has been a joke. Here is a quote from the truck owner.
"I picked the truck up. YaY...kinda. The new rhino job on the door looks like absolute horsesh1t, even worse than the other day. It's about 2x as thick, color is screwed up, they sprayed too much on the front door seam, opened the door and now there is a big hump right there and finally......drumroll please......THE SH!T'S ALREADY PEELING OFF AN A CORNER. I MEAN PEELING. Like take a pair of pliers, grab the tab and pull."
This looks like it might get ugly. I will post more pics when he gets them.
Mike
akdiesel 12-11-2004, 02:05 AM Contact a lawyer (I hate that word) and take lots of pictures with some professional second opinions. Sounds like a new paint job for him.
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