Looking to change my rearend fluid and figured add a better cover at the same time. Any leads as to best pricing? And with this cover, does it increase fluid amount? If so how much to refill? I'm thinking Amsoil, which one?
TIA
Pete

I've ran Amsoil gear lubes in my trucks/boats for years with great results. I'm currently running Amsoil's Severe Gear 75W90 (replaces the Series 2000 gear lube...their top of the line) front and rear. Great stuff and cheaper than Mobile 1. Not sure if it adds capacity, but someone will chime in on that. Refill amount with the stock cover is 3 quarts.

BK Tool (http://dieselplace.com/forum/member.php?u=9367),

We stock all the PML covers, they are cast aluminum and are NOT powder coated. Powder coating is a very good insulator and one of the reasons to change the cover is to lower fluid temps, adding insulation will hold temps. They come with magnetic plugs, cap screw hardware and bosses to add a diff fluid temp gauge if you want as well. Plus they are a very affordable as compared to other covers. Take a look at our site and call us if you have any questions etc.

Mark @ DPPI<SCRIPT type=text/javascript> vbmenu_register("postmenu_431357", true); </SCRIPT>

I've got the mag-hytec cover on mine. Been on for around 9 months now and yes it doubles the factory capacity from 4 to 8 quarts. I'm not running a guage or anything so I can't answer whether or not it helped rear end temps, but it looks nice and I got a good price.


The one Mark is talking adds 1 quart capacity. Hard to say which one is better. I guess it depends if you like black or aluminum

Pros of the mag-hytec are it doubles capacity, and looks good doing it. If your diff gets hot to the point that you are worried about the insulative properties of powder coat putting you over the top, you have much bigger issues to contend with...

Ty

tysmith (http://dieselplace.com/forum/member.php?u=183),

No no treally if you remove the powder coating and add the quart of extra fluid the result is you get the same degree of temp drop without adding the extra 3 quarts of fluid, which can be expensive especially if you go with synthetics to boot. Kind of like the tranny pans that add up to 8 extra quarts, the extra 4 quarts doesn't give you any extra cooling than the first 4 quarts did. It even makes cool down times slower as the cooler and pan has to cool off 8 quarts instead of just 4. You'llnotice the PML tranny pans are usually 1/2 the extar capacity and get the same degree of cooling performance. <SCRIPT type=text/javascript> vbmenu_register("postmenu_431783", true); </SCRIPT>

Mark @ DPPI

The one thing I like most about the Mag is the dipstick which also has a magnet on it to help catch the particulates floating around and makes it easiest I've seen to check levels. Plus you can refill without having to drop your spare tire since they angle off the dipstick and fill hole to give you room to work.

just my .02

The cast Alum is a great heat sink.The Mag-Hytec is ribbed to give additional heat shedding capabilities. I prefer the Black powder coating finish anything plain Aluminum will oxidize and discolor rapidly. Is the PML at least clear coated?

The debate on more fluid means longer cooling doesn't hold water with me as the larger pan has more surface area so it's nill.In addition more fluid THE longer it will take to get hot.

The additional fluid cost maybe more in the beginning but pays for itself in maintenance cost as service intervals will be doubled.

Regardless both pans are nice,I prefer the Mag-Hytec.

I also have the Mag-Hytec Allison pan!If you decide on Mag-Hytec you wont beat Xtreme diesels price and they are a vendor here and on the East Coast.Last I knew they offered free shippping. Make sure you mention the DieselPlace when using a vendor from here!

Mac :)

tysmith (http://dieselplace.com/forum/member.php?u=183),

No no treally if you remove the powder coating and add the quart of extra fluid the result is you get the same degree of temp drop without adding the extra 3 quarts of fluid, which can be expensive especially if you go with synthetics to boot. Kind of like the tranny pans that add up to 8 extra quarts, the extra 4 quarts doesn't give you any extra cooling than the first 4 quarts did. It even makes cool down times slower as the cooler and pan has to cool off 8 quarts instead of just 4. You'llnotice the PML tranny pans are usually 1/2 the extar capacity and get the same degree of cooling performance.<SCRIPT type=text/javascript> vbmenu_register("postmenu_431783", true); </SCRIPT>

Mark @ DPPI
If you look under any of my trucks (http://www.adsrve.com/linkredirect.php?h=515,22457217,dieselplace.com,0) , you'll see the factory lid.

I simply pointed out that the MAG HYTEC pan DOUBLES factory capacity, and looks pretty sweet. Most people won't realize the benefit of a bigger, different-than-factory pan. Most are sold on the looks alone, with the benefits of adding additional cooling being a bonus. The MAG HYTEC also has some neat features like the dip stick, that the other doesn't have.

And if after buying a $40-50k truck (http://www.adsrve.com/linkredirect.php?h=515,22457217,dieselplace.com,0) , the three extra quarts of synthetic fluid put you in a financial bind, maybe you should re-think your spending habits...:rolleyes:


Ty

Mag-Hytec here.

Thanks for the replies on the cover, now for the second part...I went to Amsoil web site to research rear end lube. Now my head hurts:confused:

(SVG) SEVERE GEAR™ Synthetic Extreme Pressure (EP) 75W-90 Lubricant (http://www.amsoil.com/products/svg.htm)
(SVO) SEVERE GEAR™ Synthetic Extreme Pressure (EP) 75W-140 Lubricant (http://www.amsoil.com/products/svo.htm)
(http://www.amsoil.com/products/tgr.htm)(FGR) AMSOIL Long Life Synthetic 75W-90 Gear Lube (http://www.amsoil.com/products/fgr.htm)
(FGO) AMSOIL Long Life Synthetic 80W-140 Gear Lube (http://www.amsoil.com/products/fgo.htm)
(TGR) Series 2000 SAE 75W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube (http://www.amsoil.com/products/tgr.htm)
(http://www.amsoil.com/products/tgo.htm)(AGR) SAE 75W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube
(http://www.amsoil.com/products/agr.html)(AGL) SAE 80W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube
(http://www.amsoil.com/products/agl.htm)(AGO) SAE 85W-140 Synthetic Gear Lube
(http://www.amsoil.com/products/ago.htm)(AGT) SAE 80W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube, GL-4, MT-1 (http://www.amsoil.com/products/agt_alu.htm)

See what I mean! Please help me, I'm scared:eek:
Pete

Don't be scared,step away from the Gear Lube!

You need a GL-5 Rating 75w-90 Synthetic Minimum.Some who tow heavy in warm climate have gone up in viscosity.I believe most chose the Amsoil 2000 series that use their products.

I wouldn't bother with extended drain interval gear lube,personal preference.

Mac

Thanks for the replies on the cover, now for the second part...I went to Amsoil web site to research rear end lube. Now my head hurts:confused:

(SVG) SEVERE GEAR™ Synthetic Extreme Pressure (EP) 75W-90 Lubricant (http://www.amsoil.com/products/svg.htm)
(SVO) SEVERE GEAR™ Synthetic Extreme Pressure (EP) 75W-140 Lubricant (http://www.amsoil.com/products/svo.htm)
(http://www.amsoil.com/products/tgr.htm)(FGR) AMSOIL Long Life Synthetic 75W-90 Gear Lube (http://www.amsoil.com/products/fgr.htm)
(FGO) AMSOIL Long Life Synthetic 80W-140 Gear Lube (http://www.amsoil.com/products/fgo.htm)
(TGR) Series 2000 SAE 75W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube (http://www.amsoil.com/products/tgr.htm)
(http://www.amsoil.com/products/tgo.htm)(AGR) SAE 75W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube
(http://www.amsoil.com/products/agr.html)(AGL) SAE 80W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube
(http://www.amsoil.com/products/agl.htm)(AGO) SAE 85W-140 Synthetic Gear Lube
(http://www.amsoil.com/products/ago.htm)(AGT) SAE 80W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube, GL-4, MT-1 (http://www.amsoil.com/products/agt_alu.htm)

See what I mean! Please help me, I'm scared:eek:
Pete
Pete, go with the Severe Gear 75W90. This is what I run. It is the replacement for the Series 2000 gear lube (which will no longer be available when supplies are depleted). This is Amsoil's top-o-the-line gear lube. It is a full synthetic and GL-5 rated (which is what your owner's manual calls for). In hot weather towing heavy loads, you can step up to the 75W-140 for extra protection. Other good choices would be Mobile 1, Red Line, or Royal Purple. I replace my gear lube at the begining of each towing season. Probably overkill but I put 20,000 + miles on a year anyway and it is easy enough to do and cheap insurance.

Thanks guys, I breathing much better now!

Pete

PML is who I went with www.yourcovers.com (http://www.yourcovers.com/) very similar to mag tek but less $$$, my PML trans pan has given very good service, still waiting for diff cover to arrive they have polished, painted & as cast, I couldn't swing 40-50K for a DMAX so saving $$$ especially after modding my 6.5 to make decent power is a concern.