Looking at web sites that have all the stations mapped out that sell bio or bio blends, of course, there is not one in New Jersey. Now I know we are the single most un-environmentally friendly state there is, god forbid we do anything ecologically sound, but it almost seems like it's forbidden here... Anyone know why?

No one has tried it yet. I am unaware of any regulations in the 'Armpit State' ;) that would prohibit the manufacture or sale of Bio.

Looking at web sites that have all the stations mapped out that sell bio or bio blends, of course, there is not one in New Jersey. Now I know we are the single most un-environmentally friendly state there is, god forbid we do anything ecologically sound, but it almost seems like it's forbidden here... Anyone know why?

Probably because it costs more and you guys have the lowest fuel prices in the country... And other than idling my fifth wheel for 15 miles straight going to Cape May a couple of months ago, I think Jersey is really working on its environmental awareness.

Although biodiesel is a renewable fuel, and has lower emissions for most pollutants - it does have higher NOx and particulate emissions. Because of this, biodiesel is sometimes banned from sale in areas that do not meet federal air quality standards. That is probably why it is hard to find in NJ - it may indeed be banned for sale there.

And by the way, for those of you who have only seen the NJ of the I-95/NJ-TPK corridor - most of the rest of the state is very nice, and the single most un-environmentally friendly state isn't NJ, it's Texas.

And by the way, for those of you who have only seen the NJ of the I-95/NJ-TPK corridor - most of the rest of the state is very nice, and the single most un-environmentally friendly state isn't NJ, it's Texas.

Camden and Asbury Park are particularly attractive. Paterson too.

As someone who lived, grew up in, and spent most of his adulthood in NJ, the problem there is too many people and too little space. The nice areas, such as Sussex and Warren Counties, are being subdivided and paved over and McMansions being built.

But I agree. Southeast Texas is worse.

Hard To Find Bio In Ny As Well...i Know Of One Station

Try www.biodiesel.org

Camden and Asbury Park are particularly attractive. Paterson too.

As someone who lived, grew up in, and spent most of his adulthood in NJ, the problem there is too many people and too little space. The nice areas, such as Sussex and Warren Counties, are being subdivided and paved over and McMansions being built.

But I agree. Southeast Texas is worse.

Can't speak for Texas as I've never been there, but yes not all of NJ is like the post apocalyptic nightmare we call the North end of the Tpke. I was born in Jersey City (fun place) and grew up in North East Jersey just outside of JC. I've since moved to the mountains in the north/west corner and it is a night and day difference. Hell, no one has tried to kill me in over five years now... Except for the occasional, wife left the garbage out on the deck again and attracted a bear, I hardly ever open my gun safe anymore. You'll never get me back east again. We do still however have the corner on the market for corrupt politicians however.

One site I did find for a good map of bio-retailers is http://www.biotrucker.com/sites/ (http://www.biotrucker.com/sites/)

I remember reading an article not long ago about the higher NOx emmisions being an unproven negative propaganda campain used to ban bio in ****Texas!**** HMMM the oil well state doesn't like bio....

I remember reading an article not long ago about the higher NOx emmisions being an unproven negative propaganda campain used to ban bio in ****Texas!**** HMMM the oil well state doesn't like bio....
You are right, there is some thinking that the high NOx values in BD exhaust are not really there and are just an artifact of the test procedure used by the EPA. Whether the higher NOx values are real, due to an oil-company conspiracy, or just bad EPA test protocols I don't know.

Although biodiesel is a renewable fuel, and has lower emissions for most pollutants - it does have higher NOx and particulate emissions. Because of this, biodiesel is sometimes banned from sale in areas that do not meet federal air quality standards. That is probably why it is hard to find in NJ - it may indeed be banned for sale there.

And by the way, for those of you who have only seen the NJ of the I-95/NJ-TPK corridor - most of the rest of the state is very nice, and the single most un-environmentally friendly state isn't NJ, it's Texas.

A lot of the state (below Vineland) is actually pretty rural. I come across Del Mem bridge and work my way southeast (49? 47?) towards Cape May. Must say I did have to ask what a Beach Permit was...

I was behind a truck the other day touting it's use of biodiesel, it was the foulest smelling diesel I can remember since riding in deuce and a halfs in basic training. Reminded me of Houston...

I was behind a truck the other day touting it's use of biodiesel, it was the foulest smelling diesel I can remember since riding in deuce and a halfs in basic training. Reminded me of Houston...

That's unusual. Pure bio-diesel hardly has any smell at all. The WVO types can smell like french fries. I wonder if he was using a blend. In any case, bad advertising.

I was behind a truck the other day touting it's use of biodiesel, it was the foulest smelling diesel I can remember since riding in deuce and a halfs in basic training. Reminded me of Houston...

A lot of people consider B5 to be biodiesel. I think anything less than B100 is a biodiesel blend.

Looking at web sites that have all the stations mapped out that sell bio or bio blends, of course, there is not one in New Jersey. Now I know we are the single most un-environmentally friendly state there is, god forbid we do anything ecologically sound, but it almost seems like it's forbidden here... Anyone know why?
I don't know why but I was wondering if maybe NJ could maybe move out west a little, maybe right next to CA.:D

I did see a site stating Taylor Oil in Williamstown was selling bio. Thats too far south for me to go but I do know Taylor Oil delivers to construction sites all over the state.

1 mile to the west of me is 1 million acre pineland reserve and to the east of me 1 mile is Bay protected and buffered by a Federal Reserve. NJ is more rural than most people would realize. The area around NYC is very dense with population while south Jersey is still pretty wide open.