tsckey was kind enough to let me photograph the shield he made for his truck. this should guard against snow and mud from collecting on the back of the filter. he used a piece of painter's shield from home depot.


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OK, stupid question....what exactly is painters shield? Also, it looks like it is using a couple of the factory "plastic removable connections" on the outside edge, but it looks like there is also some sort of connection at the top? Can anyone provide more details? This looks like something I want to try as well.


Thanks,


John

John,

The painter's shield is one of those thin plastic boards that Home Depot sells to do-it-yourselfers to block off edges, like baseboards, when painting walls. I think it's a piece of polyethylene plastic. The shield isn't actually attached to the fender flare, but is zip-tied to the roughly "V" shaped truss that stiffens the fender. Nick didn't have room to get the proper perspective when he took the picture. The shield fits inside and forward of the edge of the fender lip. If I can get some time Monday or Tuesday, I'll take it off and get some pictures of it with some measurements, so you'll have a better idea. As you can see from the picture, it completely shields the filter from debris, mud, or snow. It's very simple and easy to make and install. One of the guys at the Sacramento get together thought it would be a good idea to put one on the other side just to keep crud from building up inside the fender. I think he's right.

TC

TC,


Thanks, I look forward to seeing more detailed info. Living in Colorado I will get to be one of those "winter" torture testers...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif





John

John,

I went to Wasson HS in the Springs. I know what you mean about getting to be one of the winter torture testers. I remember slithering all over the roads in snow and black ice quite fondly http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wacko.gif I'll try to get you the info soon.

TC

Thanks TC! Hopefully my Nictane kit will be here in a day or two...I plan on installing it this upcoming weekend! I want to get the extra shielding done before the first snow fall....so I guess I have 5 or 6 weeks left !http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif Winter, she's just around the corner....

Nice http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif


Looks like I will "COPY" you if you don't mind.............


My Nicktane should be coming soon.


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Here is a drawing of the filter shield graciously done by my wife, who is a graphic designer and knows how to do this stuff. The dimensions are close, but you may need to do some minor whittling to get the right fit. The shield is mounted behind the fuel filter and attaches to the "V" shaped rod bracket that stiffens the fender. The fender bracket is shown by the blue dashed line. The little red pairs of holes are drilled to straddle the bracket. The shield is mounted by lacing zip ties through the shield, around the bracket and back out toward the tire and zipped tight. I used the number of holes shown on the drawing, but you could probably get by with fewer. Hope this helps.

TC


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/filter_shield.jpg

TC,





Way cool! Thanks to you (and your wife) for the great drawing! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gifMy nictane kit is due to arrive tomorrow, so I think I will get started on making the shield tonight. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


John

Very helpful drawing. So when yopu chcange the filter just clip the wire ties, or, can you reach around the shield to remove/replace the filter?

There is room to remove the filter without removing the shield, but it would probably be easier just to cut the ties so you can see what you're doing. That is what I'd planned, anyway, it gives you an opportunity to inspect the filter head, fittings, and hoses at the same time, and to make sure the bolts are tight.

TC

Taylor,


Thanks for posting that. now i don't have to reinvent the wheel! you'll never know it isn't stock once it gets dirty :) oh wait.. your truck doesn't get dirty...


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Well, I finished up the "finishing touches" on my install yesterday. I couldn't find the painters shield at Home Depot (probably out of stock as usual http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Angry.gif). However I did come across some 26ga steel, an 11x14 or something like that was only $5. I made a template out of paper and transfered it to the steel and cut with tin snips. Instead of using wire ties, I used the two bolts from the fender supports as well as the lower plastic "button" from the fender flair. Turned out really nice, now we'll just see how well the paint holds up....


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Nice job there. We will have to see how your paint holds up vs. my tie wraps/paint shield. Looks good!


John

John,


Thanks for the compliments. I really would have prefered plastic so as to not have to worry about paint chips and rust, but I'll just keep an eye on it. It is not very difficult to take off if I need to do anything to it....hopefully not... :D


Bob

The other thing you could try is the spray on undercoating instead of paint. I used it on my cover for my lift pump. It's flat and blends in like it's supposed to be there.

4x4Man,

Looks good.

A number of people have indicated they couldn't find the spray shield at Home Depot. I went by the local store over the weekend. The actual product is call a "Spray Buddy heavy duty plastic spray shield" It is manufactured by ARGEE corp. of Santee, CA. There was one left in the size I used and several large enough to make about three or four shields. The prices weren't visible, though, and I can't remember what I paid as it was one of several things the day I bought it. There must be other sources of light, flexible plastic so you don't have to be concerned about rust.
TC

Thanks for the info guys! May have to try Lowes or Wally World if this doesn't hold up and see if they have any type of plastic shields. I walked all the isles at Home Depot looking for any type of plastic or anything that would work for a guard. I had thought about using some type of under coating or black wrinkle paint that was more durable on this steel guard. If it does rust, it is only 5 bucks, so it is not like I am out a lot of money...maybe, if I catch it soon enough, I can just sand it and repaint with something else.


Bob

<DIV>Just installed a set of guards on my truck. I got these at the GM parts counter for 40 bucks Canadian! They are 1/4'' thick heavy rubber that have a short extension extending below the box to deflect some of the road debris from the front tires hitting the rear brake calipers. I've heard that trucks driven on a lot of gravel roads beat the sh*t out of the rear brake calipers, so these are kind of a dual purpose flap. If anyone is interested the pn is GMT800 and list for $20.25 each Canadian.</DIV>
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wow that's neat.. i never knew GM made those... my luck its probably only avail. in canada!

Dmax affair - can you provide a better part number? The mud shield looks really nice but that part number is probably just referring to the truck platform/generation (GMT800 is the current f/s truck design from GM).


I have done numerous google searches and browsed the GM accessory sites (GM Goodwrench, etc) and can't find anything like those. Just curious - Thanks!

Dmax Affair-BKG-22's comment is seconded by my attempt to recall the part number at the local Chevy Dealer. Your solution is the way I want to go if i can get themhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif

Part number is 15765007.


GM document #00-05-23-005B-(05-27-2003)


My dealer said $122.00 per pair.....to spendy for me!!


Hope this helps.

If you have trouble finding painter's shields. You could use the plastic material that they use to line the inside of dump truck beds. The stuff is almost indestructable. We use it on the bottom of our airboat hulls. With the low water levels in the Great Lakes, we are constantly running across sandbars, gravel bars, and hitting rocks. Here is a link to a place that sells it: http://www.thumbtruck.com/Bedliners.htm


DuckDog http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif

Wowhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ouch.gif I just got a $99.14 quote. I knew the dollar was down, but... It ain't that down. Whoever quoted the $22.00 each cost can you verify we are talking apples to apples?? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif

gmpartsdirect.com has 'em for $58.99 plus shipping, still a bit too steep for me. I am still looking into alternatives to my metal plate. The paint is chipping as was expected, so my quest to find a more durable paint finish resumes. May try one of those spray can bedliners you can get cheaply from Autozone. Still no painters shield at Home Depot. Other than that, my $5 steel plate is holding up great!! Just been too cold to mess with it lately.


Bob

Black Rock - Thx for the part number. I agree - this seems to be kinda steep. But after reading a description from this thread as well as a GM Service Bulletin I came across - sounds like it is not much beyond a glorified mud flap (a very nice one, mind you, but a mud flap nonetheless).


So, since metal seems to cause paint chipping concerns - how 'bout going to the local truck stop and buying a mud flap for a semi. Use the template above and I think we have the best of both worlds, no?

I went a differant route, i went the parts depart. and orderd the shields from the front of the truck and installed them in the back,I have people ask for the oem part number for the rear shields. all for $40.00 dollars. looks oem. And yes cutting is a must, They do not fit without cutting

I wonder if a smooth floor mat that was colored black would work?? Hmmmmm, may have to make a trip down to Autozone and Pep Boys and check out the "accessories" isle and look at the floor mats and mud flaps to see if anything would work.... http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


I am not too woried about the paint chipping on the metal shield, but it just doesn't look nice when clean like the rest of the truck!! Ok, call me picky....or maybe I have too much time on my hands.


Bob

Well. I went and dropped the bux for the GM flaps, about $60, but they are nice. Rubber and thick (no rock noise) and look real nice.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif

Got to thinkin' and said..."we are talkin' 10-20 bux difference which ever way you go, and a lot of time cuttin', and I have too much snowmobiling to do!!

Anyway, if a few bux will work for you, those GM flaps are A-OK. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

DMAX Affair;


What dealer in Calgary did you get your flaps from? Cowtown is not too far from me.


Thanks

DMAX Affair;


What dealer in Calgary did you get your flaps from? Cowtown is not too far from me.


Thanks





I picked them up @ Shaw GMC on Blackfoot Tr.

I've been wondering what to do about the rear wheel well. All of the things you guys suggested sounds good. Sure didn't know GM had something for it.
Something else I have been thinking about is the crack between the fornt wheel well liner and the bumper. Has anybody done anything to this. Sounds like something could be made for that to. Probably a little harder to attach and make it look neat.
Good topic
Thanks

If anyone is interested, I spoke with Kaydenco (Duraflap.com) as I have their mudflaps and like them a lot (top quality). I thought this shield thing would be a great product for him to make/carry since they are kind a like mud flaps. Long story short, he liked the idea and will be prototyping a couple sets in the next few days. If they are anything like the mudflaps they will be top notch and very reasonably priced.


I will post more info here once I know more.


On edit: BTW, the duraflaps mount in such a way they completely cover the rear part of the rear well wheel much in the same way the forward shield will work.Edited by: tophog

Well. I went and dropped the bux for the GM flaps, about $60, but they are nice. Rubber and thick (no rock noise) and look real nice.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif Another idea -- buy a rubber tailgate matt (sold at auto parts stores that sell pickup truck bed matts); I would guess they are around $20, and you would have enough 1/4" thick rubber to make a pair of guards.

Are the GM flaps $60 ea or for the pair. These days it's hard to tell http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

I believe that gmpartsdirect.com quotes a $58 or so price for the pair.

Any one interested in these Wheelwell add on kits contact shopman1@hotmail.com

Makes sure you tell him it is for the 2500hd series gm trucks.

I have a set of his prototypes and they don't quite cover as much as I'd like them tohttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/6D4_wheelwell.jpg

BTW these are $50-$60 he made a set for some one with a 2500 and it took more material.Edited by: pepperidge