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caswell

12-06-2004, 10:44 AM

I'm looking for the skinny on a new-to-me truck. thanks for you time.

1GTHK29113E188765

j.

Max Payne

12-06-2004, 02:52 PM

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WEYBURN , SK S4H0N8
(306) 842-6531
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Diesel Power

12-06-2004, 03:17 PM

wow...

caswell

12-06-2004, 04:07 PM

Agreed,

...... Thanks Max Payne,

Bogie

12-06-2004, 06:03 PM

run away fast..
Yikes..

caswell

12-06-2004, 10:28 PM

I already bought it.

Max Power

12-06-2004, 10:50 PM

It's a good thing you got extended warranty. It might be worth it extending it as much as you can or at least as long as you are going to own it.

On the bright side, you have a lot of new parts.

I would think that the dealer maybe wasn't very good. It doesn't make sense that the radio reciever needed changing 4 times.

caswell

12-07-2004, 09:24 AM

ques what, overnights she sleeps in the heated garage, but during the day it was cold (first day this year). I was stranded with a no start at my office last night. I bled the fuel filter and still no start. I have to charge the batteries and put a volt meter on them today. I will also try (first time for me) to change the fuel filter in the parking lot today (High of -18 today). Any other suggestions. I actually HOPE it is Injectors as then I can get it out of the way.

caswell

12-07-2004, 09:25 AM

Apparently someone said it started (remote start), ran for a few sectonds, then quit. After that, never again.

Max Payne

12-07-2004, 10:12 AM

Gelled fuel?

caswell

12-07-2004, 12:10 PM

I'm looking into that. when I crack the bleeder and pump the primer it squirts out fuel. However, I took the small drain plug out of the bottom of the filter and nothing came out. Both the bleeder and the drain plug were removed....

caswell

12-07-2004, 04:18 PM

Interesting... I get a phone call from the dealer and he indicates to me that I need new glow plugs, a filter change and my battery bolt fixed. All for the low price of $500. Fine, it's under warranty right. NO, he says that glow plugs are not under warranty. I was so mad I went down there an threatened to have it towed to another dealership and never return. When I asked for my Truck they take me to a 1998 GMC.... What the...

Ooops, sorry sir. You glow plugs are probably fine.

and I wait some more.

Max Power

12-07-2004, 05:11 PM

I hope you removed the van aaken :(

caswell

12-07-2004, 05:16 PM

Van AAken majically vanished. The verdict is very low batteries in the cold. It starts inside the dealership. Makes sense as that was the very first time the truck saw any type of cold since I got it. Also the first thing my buddy back home (a GM tech) said when I showed him my truck was "it cranks kinda slow".

Any suggestions on new batteries?

Max Payne

12-07-2004, 06:28 PM

Low batteries don't explain why it started and DIED.

Max Power

12-07-2004, 06:40 PM

Because the voltage was low and he started with the remote starter their is a chance that the bypass module failed to do its thing. Low batteries with high draw intake heater, glow plugs and starter could bring voltages down too low for electronics to operate properly.

I personally installed his remote start with a data bypass. In the event of a bypass failure he still should have been able to start the truck with the key after the fact. Something is fishy, that's for sure.

caswell

12-07-2004, 09:58 PM

As mentioned, the initail start was second hand information, so I'm not completely sure about that. I suppose it could have been turning over with the lights on?

Max Power

12-07-2004, 10:25 PM

What happened later when you tried to start it with the key? Just crank and no start? Was it towed in? At what point did it start again?

Any security lights?

caswell

12-07-2004, 11:19 PM

When I finally came out it wasn't running so I hit the auto start again. It turned over for quite awhile before I got there. As soon as I got to the truck I turned the autostart "off" then tried with the key. It just turned over and over, by that time it seemed to labour just a little untill it got noticably slow. I left it there all night then came back the next day with a battery charger, that's when I realized the block heater plug-ins weren't working anyway, I couldn't even charge it. GM towed it under warranty to the dealership. That's where it eventually started. I'm not sure if they boosted it to get it going or not? when I picked it up it was outside and started fine. I'll keep her warm untill I put a couple new batteries in.

OH, no security lights.

caswell

12-09-2004, 10:33 AM

It's not over, I moved my truck outside last night to use the garage for other things. I decided to leave it there and not plug it in as a test of the original problem.

This morning = Lots of cranking power and not start. I hooked up my original 2 batteries with the new 2, and a 100A charger/starter. It cranked like crazy but still no start. It is clearly a cold issue so I pluged it in and will hopefully drive it to the dealer AGAIN. Does anyone think Glowplugs?

I know it should be plugged in, but I would like my truck to start if I go hunting or fishing for the day.

J.

Max Power

12-09-2004, 10:36 AM

I assume you tried to start without the remote start this morning?

I am pretty certain that is not the problem but you need to eliminate as many variable as possible.

caswell

12-09-2004, 11:07 AM

I did the same thing, I tried starting it from my house with the remote. When that didn't work I got all my batteries and charger, turned the Astro start off, then used the key. I just tried again (with the key) after one hour of block heater. I guess I'll try another hour.

Max Power

12-09-2004, 11:20 AM

It doesn't fire at all?

How cold is it? Perhaps your fuel is gelled? Do you run any fuel additive?

Max Power

12-09-2004, 11:21 AM

If you waited an hour and it still doesn't start it is not the remote start.

caswell

12-09-2004, 11:58 AM

it got down to -24 last night and it is -18 now. The first time it sat all day at -20. fuel could be gelled I guess as I don't run additive.

I talked to the service guy about the first time this happened and he said my truck started after 1 hour inside the shop, and after the batteries took a charge.

Would it only take an hour for fuel to un-gel? if so that could be it. Would plugging it in make a difference if it was gelling?

Tow truck is on its way so I'll find out soon... or not.

Max Power

12-09-2004, 12:52 PM

Yeah fuel could ungel after 1 hour inside. Plugging it in would make no difference if the fuel gelled.

Do you buy your fuel from a high volume dealer? Are you putting #2 in it by any chance? Diesel should be full blend winter fuel now but if you are filling out of a bulk tank or a low volume dealer there is a chance you could still be running summer #2 fuel. However I find that highly unlikely.

Have you ever drained the water seperator? Do you ever get water?

Either way I suggest you buy a good fuel additive and start using it with every fill up. You can do a search here and you will find that primerose and FPPF are the favorites. I run John Deere fuel conditioner as it is supposed to be good and is easy to get. I've never found anyone in Manitoba that sells FPPF or primerose.

Max Power

12-09-2004, 12:53 PM

Is that your Ford in flames? :D

Do you think that SGI would get suspicious if your GM went up in flames as well? :D

Max Power

12-09-2004, 01:14 PM

Did you check for any codes with your code reader?

caswell

12-09-2004, 01:55 PM

Yup that was my ford. SGI and I are still discussing the settlement. I forgot that after the first episode with the no start, I put fuel treatment in. Although something I picked up at canadian tire,

I pulled the little plug out of the fuel filter and took off the bleeder screw the first time this happended and NOTHING came out. That's why I suspected Gelling originally but then it was diagnosed as Batteries.

I see from my service record that some pressure cycling switch was replaced twice within 10,000km.

408849 # D1180 - SWITCH, PRESSURE CYCLING - REPLACE

Is this related to fuel pressure? Could it be related again?

Max Power

12-09-2004, 02:00 PM

You have to crack the bleader screw when you open the water drain to get it to come out. Water or not fuel will come out of there.

If fuel pressure is low it can cause a no start as is evident with bad injectors.

Did you stick your code reader on there and see if their are any codes?

caswell

12-09-2004, 03:15 PM

I did mention that I eventually removed the little bleeder screw completely... nothing.

I didn't remove everything from the bottom of the filter but that smaller drain plug (about 1.5 inches long and .5 inches in diameter). I primed it lots but don't know what a full filter is suppose to feel like for primer pressure. With the bleeder open (and drain plug in) it shoots diesel out when primed.

and no, I didn't have the code reader on hand when this happened the first time. Today I didn't do anything but give it back to the dealership and let them try to figure it out.

sure hope I'm approaching the end of all the problems.

Max Power

12-09-2004, 04:08 PM

Fuel or water should have came out no matter what. Perhaps that is your problem. If it is, they will most likely charge you and it won't be covered under warranty. Including the tow. :(

caswell

12-10-2004, 10:28 AM

Everyone's first guess was right on. Gelled fuel. I bought from somewhere with new tanks as of November. I assumed that since they were completely filling new tanks in November it would be winter fuel, but no. It was tested and I'm running summer fuel.

$163 lesson for me.

Max Power

12-10-2004, 11:31 AM

I hope thats the end of it.

Autoed

12-11-2004, 08:06 AM

...and look at all the repeat repairs! Sounds like the technician was learning auto repair at GM's expense. How about an axiom for techs: "If its' been replaced multiple times before- Try something else and stop guessing!"

caswell

12-13-2004, 10:58 PM

So far I'm i'm not sure my new dealership is any better. I've had 2 problems and it has required 4 visits to fix them.

Autoed, Ted rules!

Max Power

12-13-2004, 11:01 PM

What now?

caswell

12-13-2004, 11:22 PM

nothing new, just the seal leaking on the sensor and the gelled fuel / battery hoax...

shadow

01-07-2005, 12:00 PM

Caswell, I'm new to the bow tie forum and I was reading here at work about your truck. I had a truck just like that! It was possessed! Was told that too by a man of the cloth! Take the advise from these guys, RUN!:eek:

caswell

01-10-2005, 01:40 PM

For my own sanity I will update this thread. I'm now waiting for a complete set of injectors. I went away for a week and left the truck at the dealership. I told them to start it every morning without plugging it in. It never started, even at temperatures as warm as 8 deg F.

I'm now waiting for injectors. I hope this also fixes my 11mpg issue.

cheers.

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