I just had my LMM leveled out with new torsion keys and Bilsteins all the way around. What a vast improvement over the factory shocks and cranking up the factory torshion bars. The $600.00 was money well spent.:grd:

Amen.

That is something I am considering to do to my '06CC. I have heard thought that cranking the T bars may speed up the process of wearing out ball joints...??

Comments..??

bilstiens are a def addition I want to do though and wonder if just by adding those, the ride will smooth out.?

thanx,

Stk

i have questions on this as well, when i bought my LMM, i asked the dealer to level it out because it was sitting very low. so they cranked up the torsion bars, i told the service mngr not to go full travel. he said he understood what i was saying but just i few cranks,
no my question is now that the truck is level with just a stock torsion bar adjustment, do I need a cognito leveling kit or new keys, and what do the blisten shocks do so great?

sorry for the long post

Cognito UCA's fix all leveling issue's but CV angles. As long as you don't crank to high you will be fine for every day driving and mild off roading. For any guy that is looking to do alot of heavy 4wd you should upgrade to a full 4" drop cross member lift.

Bil5100's will help control your ride and with the right spec shock it will allow for the full travel when leveling you HD.


Nor-Cal Nick

Nick,

How little can a Cognito 4" lift get? I have a standard height garage and a steep approach driveway, the max I could go would be 3".

Thanks,
Ed

Here is Copter's truck build and info:
http://www.norcaltruck.com/cognito-4-6.html


Truck used for install:
Diesel Place Member
”Copter “ Jeff M.
2006 LBZ 2500HD crew cab shoot bed 4x4
- Cognito 4-6 Kit set @ 4" w/2.5" rear block
- Bil5100 front and rear
- Cognito Idler pivot
- 33x12.50x18 Toyo Mud Terrain
- 18x9" 5”b.s KMC black Diesels

Height Specs:
Roof - 83”
Front Fender- 43”
Rear Fender- 44”
Front Body Line- 38 ½”
Rear Body Line- 39 Ύ”
Head Light- 48 ½
Bed Rail- 58”
Bed & Tailgate- 39”
Top of Hitch- 22 ½”


I have installed 4" kits and 295's before. We just run the front at factory angles and you can get no better of a ride. Full travel makes for a great ride.





Nor-Cal Nick

Thanks for the info. I'm torn between the Leveling kit and a "low" 4" kit. 295's are my plan, had them on my last 3" lifted 1/2 ton and it was just my size...

No prob....

Let me now if you need more help on a Cognito kit or another mfg.


Nor-Cal Nick

I just got my bilstein 5100 installed the other day, noticed that one of the rear shck is leaking real bad from the boot, fluid stained all around it.

Sucks.

I just got my bilstein 5100 installed the other day, noticed that one of the rear shck is leaking real bad from the boot, fluid stained all around it.

Sucks.


Where did you get them from?


Nor-Cal Nick

Where did you get them from?


Nor-Cal Nick

shocksandsprings.com

shocksandsprings.com


Sorry, I thought you might have used us. Have you called to see if you can send them back?


Nor-Cal Nick

Sorry, I thought you might have used us. Have you called to see if you can send them back?


Nor-Cal Nick

yeah, u got pm!

Hey Nick..too bad you're too far south for a day trip.. !! I'd even bring the beer.! But for a guy that mainly travels Mountain hwy (85%) and the rest in the city... I don't really see gravel let alone 4 X 4ing over and through the mud. All i want is to do is to bring up the front end a bit to level. Now I understand that cranking the T bars can do this..?? Is there a DIY on cranking the T bars (dumb question maybe, but until I see it done..I dont know $hite - right..??). I also want to add some bilsteins if (?), they are worth it to attempt to smoothen out my ride on said roads. That, I do not know

The plan is at some time in the very near future, to add a Buckstop or Alien Bumper to the front end... Deer protection. Need it where I travel.

rgds,

stk,

Sorry, I thought you might have used us. Have you called to see if you can send them back?


Nor-Cal Nick

Pls tell me u have one rear 5100 that u can send my way........I am praying hard!!!

yeah, u got pm!

Pls tell me u have one rear 5100 that u can send my way........I am praying hard!!!


I haven't read my PM's yet but I can get back to you in the AM. when I'm at the shop.


Nor-Cal Nick

I haven't read my PM's yet but I can get back to you in the AM. when I'm at the shop.


Nor-Cal Nick


thanks, i am waiting for your good news.......I hope

Hey Nick..too bad you're too far south for a day trip.. !! I'd even bring the beer.! But for a guy that mainly travels Mountain hwy (85%) and the rest in the city... I don't really see gravel let alone 4 X 4ing over and through the mud. All i want is to do is to bring up the front end a bit to level. Now I understand that cranking the T bars can do this..?? Is there a DIY on cranking the T bars (dumb question maybe, but until I see it done..I dont know $hite - right..??). I also want to add some bilsteins if (?), they are worth it to attempt to smoothen out my ride on said roads. That, I do not know

The plan is at some time in the very near future, to add a Buckstop or Alien Bumper to the front end... Deer protection. Need it where I travel.

rgds,

stk,


Leveling your HD is very easy. Let me know and I can give you a simple run down to see where your at and what you need for your prefered tire set up.

Nor-Cal Nick

There is a local shop in Upland, California where I live called DZ Motorsport. They put the leveling kit, which is just different torsion keys and the new Bilsteins all the way around. I paid around $600.00 for the kit and shocks installed, plus an alignment.

hey nick any pics of nbs lmm with that cognito 4-6 kit thanks

I got the ORU leveling kit with 5100's all the way around. the front shocks are great, but the rear is way too stiff! It rides like a dump truck and i can feel every little bump. Any recommendations? I really want to soften up the rear suspension.

I got the ORU leveling kit with 5100's all the way around. the front shocks are great, but the rear is way too stiff! It rides like a dump truck and i can feel every little bump. Any recommendations? I really want to soften up the rear suspension.


Do you know what rear shocks you are running. From what I know I heard that ORU has there own shock now.

Nor-Cal Nick

hey nick any pics of nbs lmm with that cognito 4-6 kit thanks


I do.... I have a ton of new pic's and I'm trying to get them to my web guy to update the site. If I get a chance I will try to post some.


Nor-Cal Nick

I got the ORU leveling kit with 5100's all the way around. the front shocks are great, but the rear is way too stiff! It rides like a dump truck and i can feel every little bump. Any recommendations? I really want to soften up the rear suspension.

Mine are pretty stiff too, but when you throw 1000lbs of corn in the back, it's not as noticeable... :D

I do.... I have a ton of new pic's and I'm trying to get them to my web guy to update the site. If I get a chance I will try to post some.


Nor-Cal Nick

I am waiting for your reply. Thanks,

hey nick how can you get a great ride? What are you talking about full travel

hey nick how can you get a great ride? What are you talking about full travel


Here is a post that might help you...

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1641068&postcount=7


Let me know if you need more help...

Nor-Cal Nick

I love my Bilsteins.

Great improvement over stock, especially with the camper in tow.