http://http://www.californiacustom.com/mron_glass.html this is what I use.........I think it works pretty good, anyone else use it? Anyone know of a better wax?

I don't use waxes, prefering polymers. The best wax out there will not last longer than 6-10 weeks. This is why Zaino is at the top of my list.

Duragloss 601 pre polishing bonding agent + 105 total performance polish will last a year.

Apply the 951 Aquawax once every 4-6 weeks for an unbelievable shine.

I buy my Duragloss direct from them. http://www.duragloss.com I've used Zaino products also, and they are top notch. Hard to beat the price/performance of Duragloss though.

Everyone around here seems to really like the Zaino wax. I personally have not used it but plan on purchasing some and trying it out.

I also hang out on corvetteforum.com, and they all swear by Zaino as well...

3M polish, no wax.

Meguiar's (sp?) NXT

I had serious swirl marks in my blue truck and could not get rid of them by hand. I used a DA polisher and Meguiars 85 followed by 83 and ended with 20. All swirl marks are gone and the paint looks better than new. Now I swear by the glazes over waxes. Low dust when removing and has protection. I have before pics here somewhere and when I get it washed again I will post after pics.
An Electric DA did all the work and much better result than anything by hand. A little slower but it is worth it.

i just bought a black LMM and looking for car care products i came across mequires online forumn, it is awesome, i suggest checking it out, i even called there car crazy hotline and bs'd with a guy for 30 mins. they really go over all there products with you and help you .

i had a scratch from the line-x guy i think and talked to them and used there scratch-x product, it was the first time i was ever able to remove a pretty hefty scratch with the help of the online forumn and hotline,
they recomended the black bottle of gold class for black vehicles to me on the phone. the nxt is a polish wax,
definately check out the website.
www.mequiars.com

Turtle Wax Color Matched Wax...hides Scrathes Pretty Good....i Will Be Trying Out Zaino One Of These Days Though

X2 on Duragloss, great stuff

Gold Class Meguiars

Liquid ice ......with 3 buffers, wool for swrills , blue foam , then white for final polish folds the clear coat over for the final step , coat with carbuna wax , this was my first attempt at removing scratches and swrills ..........i must say they are 99% gone .

Just curious,When you's talk about removing scratches do you mean in the paint or from the old wax.I too have a black truck i just got a few months ago & see some scratches in the wax,How do you get rid of them?Would putting more wax on do it or just wait for it to ware Moff.I'am sure the scratches are not in the paint,Black sure is hard to work with.Thanks

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Campsurveyor, your scratches are in your clear, you can't have scratches in your wax....

Guess i just don't understand how i could have scratches in the clear coat already,I was so careful when i waxed it,Sounds like this is going to be a pain it the but,LOL,

Guess i just don't understand how i could have scratches in the clear coat already,I was so careful when i waxed it,Sounds like this is going to be a pain it the but,LOL,


How many buckets do you use??? What type of washing products do you use?? The only way NOT to scratch a black vehicle while washing it is not to touch it. It always amazes me that people come to me completely proplexed about their scratches and how they got there...This is as they are wondering how the scratches got there as they are leaning on their dirty truck.

What did you use to wax the truck, applicators, removal, wax...???

I used Collinite's NO.845 Insulator Wax for automotive,Marine,RV It's heavy duty paste & clear coat safe,I used cotton rag to put the wax on & cotton towel to removed the wax.Nothing fancy,Used this wax for years on my white truck & i think it was a great product,I did used some cheap mico-fiber towel i got at a dollar store after i waxed to dry the truck a few times.What do i do now to get rid of the scratches besides going back to a white truck.I always went to the car wash & i did always used the foaming brush to wash it,OH OH,but that did not seem like that was the promblem,I think it happened while drying it.Thanks

I used Collinite's NO.845 Insulator Wax for automotive,Marine,RV It's heavy duty paste & clear coat safe,I used cotton rag to put the wax on & cotton towel to removed the wax.Nothing fancy,Used this wax for years on my white truck & i think it was a great product,I did used some cheap mico-fiber towel i got at a dollar store after i waxed to dry the truck a few times.What do i do now to get rid of the scratches besides going back to a white truck.I always went to the car wash & i did always used the foaming brush to wash it,OH OH,but that did not seem like that was the promblem,I think it happened while drying it.Thanks


I can garuntee one thing, your white truck had scratches too, just could not see them. Black has the highest reflectivity, which shows the scratches...Collinites is a good wax, but very labor intensive, I have seen people have to put wayyy too much pressure to remove the wax. There are better things to use out there and will be much easier. If you must do it by hand, use a foam applicator and a 100% cotton towel and only use chamois' to dry, preferabbly after blowing most of the water off with compressed air. Let the chamois do the work, do not use pressure. Thins NOT to do...NEVER use the brushes at the car washes, or at home for that matter. NEVER use the same wash mit on the paint that you use on the wheels. Never wash in the sun. Do not wax in the sun.

Things to do to help prevent scratching...use two buckets while washing, one to rinse the wash mit, one for the soap. Rinse vehicle very thoroughly before you ever touch it with a mit. Rinse very thoroughly before ever touching vehicle with a chamois. blow dry as much as possible with compressed air before drying. Make sure your wash water and soap are CLEAN.

As far as removing scrathes, you need at least an orbital, a good quality one, to fix.

LAstly, I never apply or remove wax by hand, always a machine, give a better end result. I am doing my truck today and tonight, will take some pics and post them when I am done. It is not black, but you will get the point...

Thanks Fountain Power,What do you mean if you must do it by hand?

i love the collinite's 845 insullator wax too! i apply a light coat ( right in direct sun is okay too!), let it dry compleatly, and it comes right off, no problem! they also make a wax with a bit more abrasive in it called fleetwax that i use as a cleaner occasanally, and it comes out like butter! nice and smooth!!

Thanks Fountain Power,What do you mean if you must do it by hand?


For one, doing it by hand simply adds time. Not too mention, in my opinion, you do not get as good of an end result because your arm/shoulder cannot reproduce the action of an orbital, plus with an orbital, you can use a varity of pads for different results. When I was younger and before I had a detailing and restoration business, I did everything by hand, but I have learned ALOT since then and now would never do it by hand.

The correct tools are a small investment up front, but will last you for YEARS and will make polishing your vehicle much more enjoyable and you would peobably do it more often.

i love the collinite's 845 insullator wax too! i apply a light coat ( right in direct sun is okay too!), let it dry compleatly, and it comes right off, no problem! they also make a wax with a bit more abrasive in it called fleetwax that i use as a cleaner occasanally, and it comes out like butter! nice and smooth!!


Good for you....

You are the ONLY person I have ever heard of saying Collinites is easy. You may like to do it in the sun, but it is stillnot recommended and shade makes things much easier.

So..what is the number one reason for swirls with a buffer if everthing you are using is correct???? Heat...what does sun produce??? Heat. Also, you do not want the product to dry up as soon as it hits the paint, it should be worked, sun is counteractive to this and will cause you to use more product....

Let me say also, I am not a fan of wax, I only use polishes and sealants.

Let me say also, I am not a fan of wax, I only use polishes and sealants.

Agreed. Waxes are ok for garage queens and show vehicles but for trucks that for the most part live outside I think it is a waste of money. THe best waxes cost as much or more as most polishes and sealants on the market but will only provide protection for about 6 weeks.

Just curious,When you's talk about removing scratches do you mean in the paint or from the old wax.I too have a black truck i just got a few months ago & see some scratches in the wax,How do you get rid of them?Would putting more wax on do it or just wait for it to ware Moff.I'am sure the scratches are not in the paint,Black sure is hard to work with.Thanks

What this process does is , works with the liquid ice and the heat of the buffing process and removes the surface scratches on the clear coat , and reseals them , kinda explained to me that it rolls the clear caot back over

I recently went to an open garage at Meguiars' corporate office in Irvine, CA. and couldn't believe my eyes when they ran two quick passes of their speed glaze (part #8032) on it and followed up with their NXT wax using a Dual Action Polisher. I now have one door panel that is beautiful with no swirls and the rest of the truck looks like crap! Needless to say I will be going online to buy the products and finish he truck. I have used other products and nothing compares. I've tried ICE, and Turtle Wax and don't even know what else the previous owner used but it looks horrible since I purchased it. gotta love black. Looks awesome when clean and taken care of and looks horrible if you let it slide. Check out the Garage when you get a chance..

i second the mequiars products. i go to meguiars online forum and there is a lot of great info.. so what did they use on your truck M80?

Good for you....

You are the ONLY person I have ever heard of saying Collinites is easy. You may like to do it in the sun, but it is stillnot recommended and shade makes things much easier.

So..what is the number one reason for swirls with a buffer if everthing you are using is correct???? Heat...what does sun produce??? Heat. Also, you do not want the product to dry up as soon as it hits the paint, it should be worked, sun is counteractive to this and will cause you to use more product....

Let me say also, I am not a fan of wax, I only use polishes and sealants.

Hey all/Fountain Power,
Could you recommend a polish or wax that I should use on my truck? I see a couple brands listed in this thread, but you seem to be the most knowledgable.
I'm also wanting to purchase a pneumatic air polisher/orbital to use for polishing or waxing my truck. I see a lot of brands online and not sure what to look for or what's best....any recommendations?
Thanks in advance fellas....

If I were willing to make a solid, long term investment, would this type of pneumatic polisher be good?
http://www.amazon.com/Taylor-Pneumatic-Angle-Polisher-Pressure/dp/B000KL2VB0/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1196908251&sr=1-6

This one has a 7 1/2 inch diameter pad. There are some other kits that have 3-4 inch pads and I was thinking for polishing our trucks (or any car for that matter) wouldn't it be better for a larger diameter pad? Is there 1 specific diameter that's sufficient for the job of polishing or waxing? Do I need multiple size pads?
What material pad is best?

Thanks all.