Anybody out there with an '06 LLY have Trippin's Tow Tune? What is your peak boost before and after the tune? Mine is 18 lbs both before and after the tune is loaded. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I've heard that a stock LBZ is putting out 24-25 lbs of boost stock. If this is the case it seems that I should load an LBZ/Trippin tow tune and I would get more boost and/or more power.

Am I thinking about this right? :confused:

I have been running his tune for about a month on my 06 LLY and IIRC it uses the stock boost/vvt tables. It's very smooth though (like stock) and keeps the EGTs down so I don't think that it really needs it.

Thanks Donovan.

Did you send him your stock tune and have him work that one over, or did you load an LBZ/Trippin tune. Also, do you happen to know what your boost is? Im trying to compare my 18 lbs to see if thats normal.

My reasoning is that if I load a stock LBZ tune thats been worked over, then I'll end up with the 50 horse I didn't have from the factory b/c my LLY is 50 horse shy of an LBZ.

Where are you getting the boost reading from?

I'm measuring the boost from the tube between the turbo and intercooler. I had a bung welded in right there.

Thanks Donovan.

Did you send him your stock tune and have him work that one over, or did you load an LBZ/Trippin tune. Also, do you happen to know what your boost is? Im trying to compare my 18 lbs to see if thats normal.

My reasoning is that if I load a stock LBZ tune thats been worked over, then I'll end up with the 50 horse I didn't have from the factory b/c my LLY is 50 horse shy of an LBZ.

I sent Guy mine and he hooked it up. I am making boost in the mid twenties, although I haven't really been monitoring it much.

I think that one way to figure this out would be to compare the tables on a stock (06) LLY tune to a stock LBZ tune and then compare the tables with the ones that are modified in Trippin's tune to see if there is anything missing. If there is we could fix it pretty easily by using the compare feature.

Anyone have a stock (06) LBZ tune that we could take a look at?

Anyone have a stock (06) LBZ tune that we could take a look at?

This is from a '06 2WD CC Dually...

Dan, let me know if you need any help...

I have an 07 LBZ tune.
I just got EFILive the other day, waiting for Guy to be able to work it over. Got a email yesterday that he had been evacuated from his house, hope all is ok for him.

Actually I do need help. It won't let me compare my stock tune with the one you provided.

My OS: 12606128
Your OS: 12604138

Im reading through the site and trying to figure out a way to compare 2 different stock Operating Systems....Anyone know if this is possible?

This is from a '06 2WD CC Dually...

Dan, let me know if you need any help...
You also should have mine...(remember me??? j/k) Trippins tune still happens to be one of the smoothest shifting tunes I have. My boost before and after ranges 24-28#. I still use his tables to build on my own. I still haven't had time to upgrade tranny and I can't believe mines still holding up.

floriduramax1 - Whats your OS? Would you mind sending me a copy of your LBZ/Trippin Tow Tune?

-->Thats actually all I would like to see is if the same changes are made on an '06 LLY and an LBZ. That would tell me that I can load an LBZ modded tune and get an automatic 50 horse baby. Yeah!:cool:

floriduramax1 - Whats your OS? Would you mind sending me a copy of your LBZ/Trippin Tow Tune?

-->Thats actually all I would like to see is if the same changes are made on an '06 LLY and an LBZ. That would tell me that I can load an LBZ modded tune and get an automatic 50 horse baby. Yeah!:cool:
Dude, mines an LLY also. I have a trippin "tune" for my LLY not LBZ. One thing I have learned is ....STUDY, COMPARE, Merge, and SCRIPT!!

Also... mines a 12603624. which means just a little more work and approx 1extra beer to convert!!lol

Elevation also affects boost levels...i think its somethint like a 1 psi drop (on the same tune) for every 1000 ft above sea level. my lb7 only hit 18 psi before i put the crack pipe in.

Yea don't forget to adjust for my extreme altitude factor...lol

Sorry Florida, didn't realize you had an LLY also, doesn't say in your sig so I assumed LBZ. Guess thats what I get huh...:rolleyes:

Anyway, Im still studying and Im trying to compare. Its just hard when theres no repository. :(

FWIW, Im at 300' above sea level, so prob no correction required here.

Sorry Florida, didn't realize you had an LLY also, doesn't say in your sig so I assumed LBZ. Guess thats what I get huh...:rolleyes:

Anyway, Im still studying and Im trying to compare. Its just hard when theres no repository. :(

FWIW, Im at 300' above sea level, so prob no correction required here.
Well in reality when you start changing programming on 06 and up, you can be looser with the terminology ,06 LBZ or LLY. I have some pretty strong programs.

I am looking (manually) at the differences between the stock LBZ & LLY (06) tun files right now and here is what I know to be different:

1) More than one DTC missing in LBZ tune that is present in the LLY tune. Not sure whats up with that...
2) B1115 & B1116 Pedal Position to Desired Torque & 4WD
3) B1102 Torque Based Fuel
4) B1113 Torque Based Fuel Med Alt Adjust
5) B1114 Torque Based Fuel High Alt Adjust
6) B1118 Maximum Torque 1 Vs RPM
7) B1119 Maximum Torque 2 Vs RPM
8) B1120 Engine Overtemp Torque Limiting
9) B1121 Intake Temp Torque Limiting
10) B1122 Torque Fuel Limit RPM Conversion
11) B9101 Pilot Injection #1 Quantity
12) B9103 Pilot Injection #1 Coolant Adjust A
13) B9104 Pilot Injection #1 Coolant Adjust B
14) B9111 Pilot Injection #1 Baro Adjust A
15) B9301 Post Injection #2 Quantity
16) B0909
17) B0952
18) B0954

And on and on.....(I'm getting lazy :))

This is alot of changes....some of them on tables that don't matter particularily much. I am wondering if it would make more sense to lay down a LBZ os and change the VIN rather than copy each table over at a time. Anyone know if this possible? If not i may build, test and post a script for folks to try out....

Ill try it if it doesnt blow the truck up :D

Here is the (more) complete list of things that i changed to make my 06 LLY tun file (OS 12606128) identical to the LBZ file

Engine Operation.Injection Amount.Torque Reference
{B1115} Pedal Position to Desired Torque, modified.
{B1116} Pedal Position to Desired Torque (4WDLo), modified.
{B1102} Torque Based Fuel, modified.
{B1113} Torque Based Fuel Med Altitude Adjust, modified.
{B1114} Torque Based Fuel High Altitude Adjust, modified.
{B1118} Maximum Torque 1 vs RPM, modified.
{B1119} Maximum Torque 2 vs RPM, modified.
{B1120} Engine Overtemp Torque Limiting, modified.
{B1121} Intake Temp Torque Limiting, modified.
{B1122} Torque Fuel Limit RPM Conversion, modified.
Engine Operation.Injection Amount.Pilot Injection #1
{B9101} Pilot Injection #1 Quantity (A), modified.
{B9103} Pilot Injection #1 Coolant Adjust (A), modified.
{B9104} Pilot Injection #1 Coolant Adjust (B), modified.
{B9111} Pilot Injection #1 Baro Adjust (A), modified.
Engine Operation.Injection Amount.Post Injection #2
{B9301} Post Injection #2 Quantity, modified.
Engine Operation.Injection Timing.Main Injection Base
{B0909} Timing Base, (B), modified.
Engine Operation.Injection Timing.Main Injection Correction
{B0952} Timing ECT, No P2 & P3, High Altitude, modified.
{B0954} Timing ECT, No P2 & P3, Med Altitude, modified.
{B0956} Timing ECT, No P2 & P3, Low Altitude, modified.
{B0960} Timing ECT, With P2, Med Altitude, modified.
{B0962} Timing ECT, With P2, Low Altitude, modified.
{B0964} Timing ECT, With P3, High Altitude, modified.
{B0966} Timing ECT, With P3, Med Altitude, modified.
{B0968} Timing ECT, With P3, Low Altitude, modified.
{B0970} Timing Baro, No P2 & P3, (A), modified.
{B0972} Timing Baro, No P2 & P3, (B), modified.
Engine Operation.Injection Timing.Pilot Injection #1
{B1201} Timing Base, No Pilot #2 or #3, modified.
{B1204} Timing Coolant Adjust (A), modified.
{B1205} Timing Coolant Adjust (B), modified.
Engine Operation.Injection Timing.Post Injection #2
{B1240} Timing Base, modified.
Engine Operation.Boost Control
{B2208} Desired Boost Levels, EGR On, Med Altitude, modified.
{B2209} Desired Boost Levels, EGR On, Low Altitude, modified.
{B2219} Desired Boost Intake Temp Multiplier, modified.
{B2222} Turbo Vane Target Position Maximum, High Altitude, modified.
{B2223} Turbo Vane Target Position Maximum, Med Altitude, modified.
{B2224} Turbo Vane Target Position Maximum, Low Altitude, modified.

I have also attached the script to run it against your LLY tune file. It's getting late here and I haven't QC'd these changes so please use at your own risk. :)

I will give it a shot tommorow. If anyone gives it a try post back on how it works!

Damn its a different OS than mine. Is the 06 LLY and the 05 LLY that different?

That's weird that you guys with OS 6128 have LLYs because according to OS 6128 that I have it is an LBZ tune. I even verified the VIN number is correct for an LBZ. I've got a 06 LLY to LBZ tune for OS 3624 if anyone needs it.

edit: I added the tunes below if anyone wants them.
Damn its a different OS than mine. Is the 06 LLY and the 05 LLY that different?Yes, they are that different. Completely different ECM.

Donovan, Thanks for your hard work in this. I was too lazy to compare everything table by table. :D
You've got OS 6128 as well so you and I are on the same playing field. Let me know how it goes today. Were you just going to load your stock tune thats been modified to an LBZ with no other changes? Meaning you will now have a stock LBZ tune?


FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVEN'T BEEN PAYING FULL ATTENTION:

THIS IS ONLY FOR AN '06 LLY WHICH HAS AN LBZ OPERATING SYSTEM. IF YOU HAVE AN '04 OR '05 LLY DO NO ATTEMPT TO LOAD THIS STUFF IN ITS PRESENT FORM. THANK YOU.

I think I will edit my original post and put this note in there too.

Damn its a different OS than mine. Is the 06 LLY and the 05 LLY that different?


Totally different. Don't try the script. :)

[quote=dantheman;2087560]Donovan, Thanks for your hard work in this. I was too lazy to compare everything table by table. :D
You've got OS 6128 as well so you and I are on the same playing field. Let me know how it goes today. Were you just going to load your stock tune thats been modified to an LBZ with no other changes? Meaning you will now have a stock LBZ tune?[quote]

I was also planning on merging in the changes from Trippins tune, plus some EGR, Emissions and MAF related DTC turn offs and also the wheel size change that I put in every tune.

Have you LLY guys with OS 6128 tried loading the LBZ tune from OS 6128?

Totally different. Don't try the script. :)

So I can't use it on my LLY?

:Moon:

That's weird that you guys with OS 6128 have LLYs because according to OS 6128 that I have it is an LBZ tune. I even verified the VIN number is correct for an LBZ.

That is strange. My truck has been updated once for the GPCM recall. I wonder if they threw a new os on there at that time?

Have you LLY guys with OS 6128 tried loading the LBZ tune from OS 6128?

I run a script of the LBZ tune on the 06 LLYs. Never tried to reflash directly to it. I figured it wouldn't let you.

I also had that same recall done. Maybe they did change our OS.

I was also planning on merging in the changes from Trippins tune, plus some EGR, Emissions and MAF related DTC turn offs and also the wheel size change that I put in every tune.

Sweet, let me know what you come up with and how it turns out.

[anxiously waiting] :D

That's weird that you guys with OS 6128 have LLYs because according to OS 6128 that I have it is an LBZ tune. I even verified the VIN number is correct for an LBZ. I've got a 06 LLY to LBZ tune for OS 3624 if anyone needs it.

edit: I added the tunes below if anyone wants them.
Yes, they are that different. Completely different ECM.

I compared your tunes and I missed three tables so I updated the script that i posed earlier and attached it. Seeing that the same OS is pretty similar. I am confident that this will work well. I am going to give it a shot in a few hours.

BTW, Thanks for posting that JoshH. That sure made it easy!

I just tested out the LLY tune with the LBZ tables copied over. It works pretty well. I am going to continue to run with it for a bit to see how it works long term. If anyone wants to test it out use the script in post 31.

Donovan, so far, how does it compare to your stock/trippin tow tune? :D

Just got back from my 1st drive with Trippen's tow tune.:D
Man what a difference from the Edge.

Now I just have alot to learn about this, but I'm glad I finally got it.

Donovan, so far, how does it compare to your stock/trippin tow tune? :D


I actually merged them together by first scripting in the lbz changes and then by adding the tripping changes and some of my own. Definitly no codes and no driveability problems though so far and I put about 15 miles on it this evening.

I finally installed his tow tune today, Man it is sweet. Lots of power and so smooth shifting! My hypertech tune never shifted that nice. Thanks Guy :)

Yes it is way smoother and shifts great. Trying to decide if it need just alittle more power. My edge may have had more power but it drove bad at that level.

I think i just have alot to learn about this.