Im going to stick to drag racing. Or at least If I pull again, Ill bring some tires. 265 Nitto Terra Grapplers, hardly 1/16" tread left on the front and rear; Ill post pics of the tread left, you guys are going to laugh that I even tried pulling.

I barely made it 200 feet down the track, spinning the whole way. I looked at the EFILive log, I never even went over 43% throttle because I had to feather it carefully to stop from bouncing off the 3850rpm rev limiter. Turbo never even got to 30psi because the spinning tires couldnt load it up for beans...

There was an LBZ there, exhaust, no lift pump, no tie rod sleeves, and an EFILive tune that made it 221 feet IIRC.

But by far the most discouraging thing was the crowd. They were terrible; literally the whole crowd was laughing at me haha...no joke. Everyone was screaming "HAHA YOU SUCK!!! ****** DURASMACKS CAN LICK MY B****!!!"

AND right before I pulled, I was making some last minute EFILive changes, couple guys yelled out "HAHA HEY EVERYONE look at this f**, trying to get his last little bit of homework done before the pull!!". Then everyone else joined in laughter... People even went out of their way to come up to me and give me crap to my face.

As I was driving back after the pull I drove by some of the crowd, some guy yelled at me as I was driving back "hey *** you should trade that laptop in on a turbo, maybe you'd actually make it down the track! LOOSER!!!"

So yeah. Great crowd. I stuck around after to see if it was only me, and nobody else caught the crap that I did... Made me feel great; I left without even watching the end of the pull.

If it werent for the hot girls there it wouldnt have even been worth the fuel driving out to the fair grounds :D

cant win 'em all I guess.

ben

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those are the front tires, the rears are slightly worse

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Sounds about like my first pull. Don't worry. It is an eye opener so you set your truck up right the next time. It happens to the best of them.

Ben, sounds like they know you!

J/K next time kick their asses, and the catcalls will be different :)

thanks Bobo and Juice...think my setup needs to start with some tires :D

other than spinning it pulled nicely; spring clamps prevented hopping and dropping the torsion bars down all the way, the truck went straight down the track with no goofy steering

Get some tires before next years pull (or borrow some) and show'em what a duramax can really do.

Once you get a good hook, you won't wanna stick to drag racing. And if you get power like Bobo your pull is a drag race.:smoke2:

I would ask the guys that get in your face/become ignorant, which brand of truck has won the Diesel Power Challenge 2 times in a row?
AND WITHOUT SIGNIFICAN BREAKAGE?

The reason they were booing is this. They KNOW what the DMX is capable of, they don't want the hometown favorite CTD's to get some real competition, and they are trying to psychologically run you down.

F-em, just keep showing up, get some experience and come back stronger and stronger each time. Nothing makes people STFU like an 'IN YOUR FACE """W""" '

Keep the faith in the DMX, it can and does clean house when set up correctly.

get some tires ben i pulled with my nitto's 285's one time and i did the same thing barely made 200ft. get some tires and kick some ass, rmember the good thing about sled pulling the heavier your truck is the better it does so you dont have to worry about putting your pig on a diet

get some tires ben i pulled with my nitto's 285's one time and i did the same thing barely made 200ft. get some tires and kick some ass, rmember the good thing about sled pulling the heavier your truck is the better it does so you dont have to worry about putting your pig on a diet


Yeah they were trying hard core to control weight on the trucks when they tech'd them.

No more than 50 pounds allowed in toolboxes :eek:

Ben, you should have waited for them to leave and offered to show them how much of a piece of crap your truck is out on the pavement. I know that would have shut them the hell up.

another newbie tip that I forgot...throw it in neutral before you let off!

I stalled the engine on my first (and only) pull. :D

I went to back up and truck wouldnt move...I look down and see the "battery" light on... HUH??? Took me a second to realize what had happend. Turbo and engine must have loved that; shutting off while still at 1300* or so EGT...

any guys log ECT during pulling? Mine topped out at like 215*....wait'll TX sees this :eek:

another newbie tip that I forgot...throw it in neutral before you let off!

I stalled the engine on my first (and only) pull. :D

I went to back up and truck wouldnt move...I look down and see the "battery" light on... HUH??? Took me a second to realize what had happend. Turbo and engine must have loved that; shutting off while still at 1300* or so EGT...

any guys log ECT during pulling? Mine topped out at like 215*....wait'll TX sees this :eek:


For a real shocker, run an oil temp gauge Ben.

What were you running for tire pressrue?

I ran 30 in the rears, and 25 in the fronts IIRC.

one thing you could've tried would be a higher gear to stop from bouncing off the rev limiter

Yeah, sled pulling isn't something that should be done on a whim, unless you like taking a beating from the hecklers.

We showed up at our first pull and no one took us seriously either, until we were the only truck out the gate that night, and that kinda shut people up.

If you're going to show up at a pull with a Dmax, make sure it's a big hammer with something other than junk tires.

What the heck were ya thinking anyway?

wish you were a little closer to Ohio. Not too many people make fun of us around here.

Nobody made fun of me all season this year, it was great! :D

BTW Ben, I saw 200 - 210 ECT all season on my logs. I always tried to run the truck as little as possible pre pull to keep the temps just at min. op. temp 160-180.

Ben, you should have waited for them to leave and offered to show them how much of a piece of crap your truck is out on the pavement. I know that would have shut them the hell up.

:agreed: would have been a good laugh for you!

I pulled for the first time this summer to Ben. Although i went 250ft, Bullydog on 70HP, new BFG's, (the setup in sig)etc..I Had nobody holler at me or nothing, but i got dogged before the pull..Thats what made me go out their and give it a shot. It wouldn't of been funny to drag race the guys that you pulled against :D

Ben, you should have waited for them to leave and offered to show them how much of a piece of crap your truck is out on the pavement. I know that would have shut them the hell up.

That's what a lot of losers do around here, and it does not impress me one bit. Just leaves a longer remembrance of who the losers were. Some will do a donut in the pit area and be ushered out.

Just get a set of good tires, come back and show them what a winner is.
BTW, with less spinning, the time frame of the pull will be much less, therefore less heat build up.

Pops speaks the gospel once again :thumb:

That's what a lot of losers do around here, and it does not impress me one bit. Just leaves a longer remembrance of who the losers were. Some will do a donut in the pit area and be ushered out.

Just get a set of good tires, come back and show them what a winner is.
BTW, with less spinning, the time frame of the pull will be much less, therefore less heat build up.

Roger that....:rolleyes: Guess I should have said "take it to the drag strip"...

Better yet, you should have got the tow strap out and hooked them up hitch to hitch... ;)

Ben, try forgetting to shift the T-case into 4LO sometime.....now thats embarrassing. :o::o::o:

thanks Bobo and Juice...think my setup needs to start with some tires :D

other than spinning it pulled nicely; spring clamps prevented hopping and dropping the torsion bars down all the way, the truck went straight down the track with no goofy steering

Welcome to my world. 1/8" tread on a set of Michelin's do the same damn thing....throw mud all the way down the track. Maxxed out the RPMs at about half track...doesnt work well.
Make sure to clamp both ends of the rear springs. I noticed you did not mention what weight limit there was. I assume 8000lbs? How'd you get up to weight?

I ran 30 in the rears, and 25 in the fronts IIRC. IMO, pressure too low in the rears. The guys were all telling me to run 60-70lbs in the rears.

That's what a lot of losers do around here, and it does not impress me one bit. Just leaves a longer remembrance of who the losers were. Some will do a donut in the pit area and be ushered out.

Just get a set of good tires, come back and show them what a winner is.
BTW, with less spinning, the time frame of the pull will be much less, therefore less heat build up.

Listen to this man. Mat and TBB, too. They know what they're talking about.

where was the pull? what fair?

That really stinks you were treated like that, where are the grown ups? Sounds like a bunch of immature kids. Where are the people out there that would help you get it too hook, and offer advice instead of heckle you. Hopefully you get it dialed in and then go whoop them all.

No more than 50 pounds allowed in toolboxes :eek:Bah I wouldn't take all my tools out to get down to that...

That sinks Ben. Some tires will help.

I was pleased that on my first pull I got farther then I had thought. IIRC it was around 301. 05smoker may remember for sure.

The fact that you tried is great though!

where was it ben?

what a hick

I wish i would have been there!!:mad: Ive had simalar happen to me last year on crappy tracks. But i go and find them later, they tend to shut up when you stand in their face, atleast for me they do. I like to ask them where their truck is, and why its not out on the track " O thats right you own a Ford Ranger Bitch"!! But they wanna talk shit about someone that is out there giving it a shot! Pisses me off to no end!!:boxing:

another newbie tip that I forgot...throw it in neutral before you let off!

I stalled the engine on my first (and only) pull. :D

I went to back up and truck wouldnt move...I look down and see the "battery" light on... HUH??? Took me a second to realize what had happend. Turbo and engine must have loved that; shutting off while still at 1300* or so EGT...

any guys log ECT during pulling? Mine topped out at like 215*....wait'll TX sees this :eek:

It's got to be really hard to remember to bump it into neutral before you let up. Seems like timing would be pretty crucial?

It's got to be really hard to remember to bump it into neutral before you let up. Seems like timing would be pretty crucial?

Its really not.

So pretty much when you quit moving forward you bump the trans into neutral? Sorry I'm new to pulling and would like to give it a try next year.

What the heck were ya thinking anyway?


I dunno, Id never sled pulled before, and this was the only pull thats ever been local for me...I knew my tires are shot, but I just wanted to try it for grins.

So pretty much when you quit moving forward you bump the trans into neutral? Sorry I'm new to pulling and would like to give it a try next year.
^^^^
That makes 2 of us. Couldn't quite bite the bullet and do it this year.

Ben just come back next year and tear'em a new one!

It was in Portland, CT.

Ahhh Home For The Weekend....

So pretty much when you quit moving forward you bump the trans into neutral? Sorry I'm new to pulling and would like to give it a try next year.
TRY IT SITTING STILL THE SHIFTER WILL ONLY GO TO NEUTRAL. GIVE IT A SLAM.

and thats not hard on the tranny at all?

push forward on the shifter when you do it, won't go past N then

Ben,
Seeing turbobeaglebuggy post reminded me that your hook could have been worse, you could have broke your hitch.:D Sorry Adam. I swear that's the last reference to your hitches breaking that I'll ever make.;)

Ben,
Seeing turbobeaglebuggy post reminded me that your hook could have been worse, you could have broke your hitch.:D Sorry Adam. I swear that's the last reference to your hitches breaking that I'll ever make.;)

That's funny right there!


Ben, at least you gave it a shot and now know a little more of what to expect (same as drag racing). Not many people make a low number pass their first time at the track and truck pulling is no different (for most). If you need tires next year, I have a set of Cooper STT's mounted on H2's that you can borrow (I'll even have the PSI set beforehand).

Don't let it discourage you, pulling can be fun.

Ahh, it's just a bump in the road :D

I dunno, Id never sled pulled before, and this was the only pull thats ever been local for me...I knew my tires are shot, but I just wanted to try it for grins.

Well, as long as you're still grinnin', hey, have fun!

I think drag racing is a little more forgiving in terms of setup (you're going to go fast no matter how you do it). Without the right pulling equipment, you're gonna have a real hard time.

I always advise people to hook up with someone local for their first attempt so the truck at least has a chance.

any guys log ECT during pulling? Mine topped out at like 215*....wait'll TX sees this :eek:

WHAT? in only 30 seconds? Climbing fast eh? LOL, saturday we watched an LLY stall against the sled for like 45 secs then finally get the turbo lit and by the time he got to 150' he was blasting coolant like a fire hydrant. Try sled pulling a 16k RV for 20 minutes straight up a mountain ;)


Glad to see you are stretching out and doing more things with your truck, good luck and hope to hear better results from you later. :)

Well we all have to start somewhere...

WHAT? in only 30 seconds? Climbing fast eh? LOL, saturday we watched an LLY stall against the sled for like 45 secs then finally get the turbo lit and by the time he got to 150' he was blasting coolant like a fire hydrant. Try sled pulling a 16k RV for 20 minutes straight up a mountain ;)


Glad to see you are stretching out and doing more things with your truck, good luck and hope to hear better results from you later. :)


I knew I should have kept my big fat mouth shut ):h

215* peaked right before the middle of the pull, it didnt go any higher than that.

As Juice said, I think oil temp has a huge amount to do with it. Everyone would agree that my LLY has hardly any more heat load on the cooling system than an LB7 (no egr, no vvt), but once oil temps come up it just dumps it into the coolant.

Ben, First time always sucks, but you gotta start somewhere.
The first time I pulled, I got dead last. The Dodge and Ford boy's were laughing their ass off. They don't do that much anymore. A little work on your set-up and some good tires will get you in the running. Hang in there. You'll be out pulling them all, soon.

I knew I should have kept my big fat mouth shut ):h

215* peaked right before the middle of the pull, it didnt go any higher than that.

As Juice said, I think oil temp has a huge amount to do with it. Everyone would agree that my LLY has hardly any more heat load on the cooling system than an LB7 (no egr, no vvt), but once oil temps come up it just dumps it into the coolant.


From a technical standpoint the DMX motor is oilcooled. Which explains why it can withstand more shockload than the CTD's cooling system.

That said, when oil temps reach saturation, the cooling system gets a pretty thorough workout. Mind you it does give us a lot more stability in overall temps when towing (In theory)

The only time you hit real trouble in an oilcooled motor is when EGT's are high, oiltemp is high, rpms are high, and your water/oil exchanger are not large enough in flow through to get rid of the heat.

From a technical standpoint the DMX motor is oilcooled. Which explains why it can withstand more shockload than the CTD's cooling system.

That said, when oil temps reach saturation, the cooling system gets a pretty thorough workout. Mind you it does give us a lot more stability in overall temps when towing (In theory)

The only time you hit real trouble in an oilcooled motor is when EGT's are high, oiltemp is high, rpms are high, and your water/oil exchanger are not large enough in flow through to get rid of the heat.

Great post Juice... :cool:

every one of those parameters were met in excess at the pull! :D EGT's were sky high before I was even halfway through and I was bouncing off the 3800rpm rev limiter.

so about those EGT's........twins? :D

You got ragged on just like i did my first pull... now you can give shit to everyone the next time you pull :ro)

Great post Juice... :cool:

every one of those parameters were met in excess at the pull! :D EGT's were sky high before I was even halfway through and I was bouncing off the 3800rpm rev limiter.

so about those EGT's........twins? :D

Twins will make a big difference Ben, but that will probably bump you out of the works stock class of a single charger and 2.8 inducer limit:(

I think the latest crop of Garrett chargers show the most promise as a single, and with a little fab work, you could get a small hsg to work really well if you could find a way to wastegate it. Or possibly see what Nathan can get you from industrial injection on an S300 Var with a larger compressor section while keeping the gated S300 rear.

Just throwing out that as an idea.:o:

Ben,
Seeing turbobeaglebuggy post reminded me that your hook could have been worse, you could have broke your hitch.:D Sorry Adam. I swear that's the last reference to your hitches breaking that I'll ever make.;)


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Ben...that's just awful that they would act that way. Sorry to hear. Don't give up! Try it again next season with some tires and the proper hitch height and some suspension blocks.

It was calculated on our Association's sled that for each 1" of lowered hitch height is the equivalent of 500 additional pounds to be pulled. So if the rule is 26" then try to be at 26".

Craig

Really that much...Im still trying to figure out how to pull with my regular cab, it weighs about 700 lbs less:banghead: