I have an 05 that i hooked up and Edge with attitude...At higher gears and RPM i get like a cough/Bark,it misses and i just let off the throttle...Is this a Edge box common problem? Does anyone have a fix for it?

sean

alot of people have experienced that exactly as you described, coming off the throttle at wide open runs. i dont believe edge thinks they have a problem - i know that i had one unit originally that wouuld bark like crazy, i sold it and got another a month later and this one wont do it ?? who knows

This is already my 2nd one....I guess i will call them 1st thing monday morning..

Sean I'm having the same exact problem even on my 04 lly this box did the same thing I talked to Justin at edge and he told me to try another box so I did Same thing ? He told me that they have never heard of this problem go figure . Call him and tell him your having the same problem see what he tells you. Now tell me if you have had this happen I tried to power brake my truck yesterday to show off to a friend this thing developed an attitude Quick it started surging and would only build maybe 10 or 12 pounds of boost . removed the Juice problem went away I'm begining to think Edge has a problem just won't admit it ! Turbo6600

Sean I'm having the same exact problem even on my 04 lly this box did the same thing I talked to Justin at edge and he told me to try another box so I did Same thing ? He told me that they have never heard of this problem go figure . Call him and tell him your having the same problem see what he tells you. Now tell me if you have had this happen I tried to power brake my truck yesterday to show off to a friend this thing developed an attitude Quick it started surging and would only build maybe 10 or 12 pounds of boost . removed the Juice problem went away I'm begining to think Edge has a problem just won't admit it ! Turbo6600
I have not had any of the other problems you are having...Mine seems to Bark and sputter when i go from a dead stop and get on it like i was drag racing it...When i get into it from say a 40mph roll it only barks once in a blue moon...They are defenitly having some sort of problem cause i tried 2 other boxes and never had this problem..I will call them 1st thing monday and keep all posted on this matter..If anyone else has anyother input on fixing this matter woud be great..

keep us informed Turbo6600

I know several people who have called Edge, spoken to Justin, and been told that they have never heard about the turbo bark. I have talked to him several times about it on LLY's I have Juiced. He suggested that I replace the Vane Control Solenoid on one of them and see if that fixes it. (450 dollar part) It didnt fix it. A Van Aaken box fixed it.

Well i spoke with Edge today and they said that they have had some complaints about the turbo bark and are aware of it...They told me that they are working on it and took my name and phone number down and said they will call me when they have a fix..I asked if they have an estimate of time and they said NO, when they figure it out they will call...So my edge is getting returned to where i bought it, and i am getting my money back and will wait till someone has something that will work for the LLY...Thank you very much to all that replied to this matter and to all you fellow Edge people good luck with them..


sean

Mine seems to Bark and sputter when i go from a dead stop and get on it like i was drag racing it...When i get into it from say a 40mph roll it only barks once in a blue moon...They are defenitly having some sort of problem cause i tried 2 other boxes and never had this problem..I will call them 1st thing monday and keep all posted on this matter..If anyone else has anyother input on fixing this matter woud be great..
mine used to rarely ever bark now it does this /\ after the reflash, i also have the cat in and egr connected back up.... its barked as many as 3 times in one shift. and whenever i get on it in level 5 its guaranteed to bark it also did it on a 3/4 throttle roll at about 20 in level 0 lowboost 4

there is definatly something wrong with edges programming.....

there is definatly something wrong with edges programming.....
Isnt that the truth........

I never had any trouble w/ my J/A on my 04.5 but we'll see what happens when I put it on my 05, should be Wednesday.
I play quite a bit too.

I've also barked turbos on other stuff, so I know what it sounds like.

Dmax Tim,

Sure must be nice working for the General and getting a new Dmax every year. Yes I'm jealous. :p

I am having the same problem. It seems to only be in the higher power levels and at lower RPM's (spooling up) in particular. It literally makes levels 4 and 5 useless. If anybody gets a worthwhile answer from Edge regarding a fix please do inform the rest of us.

Hey zoobs, you're not related to zeeb are you? ):h

Hey zoobs, you're not related to zeeb are you? ):hYUK, YUK, YUK...:rolleyes:

Aren't you due for another cruise here shortly, so we can have some peace and quiet for another six months or so? ):h

this sounds weird my only barks (still very rare) when its raining out never on a good day?????

Anyone hear anything from Edge on this lately? Aaron added me to the list a while back, but I've heard nothing to date?

Is turbo bark worse than turbo bite?Ok I'm new around these parts, still learning, just what is turbo bark?
Pete

If in fact what the LLY Edge is doing is "turbo bark", it's when the intake air post-turbo has more pressure than the exhaust pre-turbo, so it tries to spin the turbo backwards. It is very hard on the turbo.

No one really knows if in fact the Edge is "barking", but it sure sounds like. You will know it when it happens, there will little doubt something is goofy, the truck makes a BRRR noise and shudders when you lift the throttle or when it shifts.

I think the reason is that the variable vane turbo has not been figured out yet by some of the tuners. I can say that both TTS and Predator have figured it out, and IMO Edge hasn't.

McRat is exactly right. Its like biting off more than you can chew. All your mods are allowing the exhaust to flow fast and intake move freely. This spins the turbo beyond design when you have your foot in it. This piles up the air in the intake manifold to the point that it stalls the compresser side of the turbo. Once the compresser blades stall it is a bad moment for your turbo and it screams in pain......... and you are another step closer to destroying a $50,000.00 truck.

I am one of the original BETA tester for Edge on the lly box, there where about 10~15 trucks all over the country. My truck was built in January of 2004, its a Ma spec emissions( much like CA set up). I tested about 10 diffent software versions most of witch had some small issues.... the Bark is mostly in truck that are close to sealevel or really heavy dence air.... My truck has done it from day one, its worse it you set it up on the higher levels . its turbo reversion, the boost pressure trys to spin the turbo backwards and lets air by the compressor wheel back to the air cleaner....thats the noise your hearing! If the lly has a wastegate it would do it! I think edge could cure it but at the expence of higher EGT and less boost. If you run at lower settings and set your defuel on (no) see what happens.

If you run at lower settings and set your defuel on (no) see what happens.
I understand what your saying and appreciate the reply but I paid money for certain power levels, which I might add, some tuners are delivering without such problems. I have been driving at the settings that you have mentioned but am continually dissappointed with the power. Edge needs to step up on this one and admit that they delivered a bunk product with false claims and poor testing.

I am very dissappointed with both the product and the response to these concerns.

Hey if you guys still get a barking disconnect your egr. Gm decided in 05 to command egr open on accel inturn sending high boost pressures back through the exhust causing loss of pressure to the turbo. When this happens it causes instability in the compressor vanes. When the egr is disconnected it keeps the pressures apart. The only way to beat the program is to reflash ecu with 04 program and has to be done by vci number, programming using tech 2 and tis wont let you do it. The problem is due to the new programming because I can take a my 04 truck with the edge and put 05 progamming in it and guess what, I got barking. I do belive edge is working to get around it who knows? Hope this helps someone.

Hey if you guys still get a barking disconnect your egr. Gm decided in 05 to command egr open on accel inturn sending high boost pressures back through the exhust causing loss of pressure to the turbo. When this happens it causes instability in the compressor vanes. When the egr is disconnected it keeps the pressures apart. The only way to beat the program is to reflash ecu with 04 program and has to be done by vci number, programming using tech 2 and tis wont let you do it. The problem is due to the new programming because I can take a my 04 truck with the edge and put 05 progamming in it and guess what, I got barking. I do belive edge is working to get around it who knows? Hope this helps someone.
Repost this as a new topic, it may help a lot of LLY owners.

Welcome, I assume u are a tech?

Yes, I have a customer with a 04 1/2 that picked up the barking after installing the edge/attitude. He bruoght it in one day and we took a snap shot using the tech 2 while it was barking, and the took my 04 same module ran it at same rpm and speed then took a snap shot of it. Comparing the two the only differance is egr command on the 04 1/2. That lead us to unplugging it. I talked to edge to find out if any thing can be done they asked for the snap shots so ifaxed them and havent heard any thing back at all? I also called tech assist at GM they say its under investigation and refferd me to a PI # I dont recall it but will look tomarrow. I belive its GM at fault becuase a stock truck will do it at hi altitudes, what do you think???

YES YES YES This is what my truck is doing when it is stock. I moved from CA to CO and it did not do it in CA but it is in CO. What can i do to stop it. My truck will do this all the time. I am worried i am going to hurt my truck.

Do i need to take it to GM? I have not yet due to the hard time i would have repeating this problem.

Yes, I have a customer with a 04 1/2 that picked up the barking after installing the edge/attitude. He bruoght it in one day and we took a snap shot using the tech 2 while it was barking, and the took my 04 same module ran it at same rpm and speed then took a snap shot of it. Comparing the two the only differance is egr command on the 04 1/2. That lead us to unplugging it. I talked to edge to find out if any thing can be done they asked for the snap shots so ifaxed them and havent heard any thing back at all? I also called tech assist at GM they say its under investigation and refferd me to a PI # I dont recall it but will look tomarrow. I belive its GM at fault becuase a stock truck will do it at hi altitudes, what do you think???