i have a chip intake and exhaust what else can i do to my truck to get more power, now i not going to go nuts and get a bigger turbo or another 1, at least yet, but what would be my next step in making more power without propane or NOS

EFILive, lift pump and a transmission.

I agree with maxxis or you could buy the new PPE HOT +2 ET it now adds 425fwhp and revs to 4800 apparently. I cant wait to try it out. My brother in law is sending his in to be upgraded tomorrow. Basically you will need Duall lift pumps and a well built tranny for sure.

I agree with maxxis or you could buy the new PPE HOT +2 ET it now adds 425fwhp and revs to 4800 apparently. I cant wait to try it out. My brother in law is sending his in to be upgraded tomorrow. Basically you will need Duall lift pumps and a well built tranny for sure.


Level 7 will need dual cp3's

I figured that since you cant hold raill pressure with a single on lvl 6. I wonder how one of braydens new cheetah turbos with a duelfueler setup and the HOT+2ET would do? I am annoyed efilive hasnt gotten these tables for us yet. I would love to try this setup out to see how it goes. I bet it would run pretty good. Think of it a vvt that can make as much power as a gt 40 or 42 wit enough tuning to deffinately make bg power at least for the street. I think that would make for an awsome daily driver, and you wouldbe able to rev to 4800 if you want and no defuel. Like I said earlier you will want a built tranny before you get to far off into this thats what Idid and thinnk it is the best mod I have made so far.

ok i will read up on the ppe tuner some more, but what kind of tranny up grades would be the best, other than getting a better tranny,

transgo jr and atleast a 1057 converter or other brans will work great

My opinion is do it right the first time. I would agree with ripmf666 if you only want to do mild stuff. I was sure I would want more later even if it was for little amounts at a time. I chose to do a fully built tranny the first time out, I love my ATS Extreme with copilot and 5 star converter. Really it depends, if you want tons of power go with a sc4 and 1057 or ats with 5 star or if you looking for less than 450hp go with a 1057 and coverter.

how are ATS converters, and the transgo jr has been on the top of my list for awhile now, but if i go with ppe witch i have no problem with, how do u change levels on it, can thay be cahnged on the fly or do u need to stop and shut the truck off, i not that familiar with reprogramers,

You cant change tunes on the fly whith PPE it only takes a minute or 2 to change tunes though. I personally like my ATS 5 Star converter I have also heard great things about the Suncoast 1057. I think both companys make exceptional products, you cant go wrong with. I recomend the PPE because if you buy the highest level they have then chances are you will never outgrow it and if you do then the only programer I would choose would be EFILIVE.

A built trans is nice if you can do it the first time around, If not the Suncoast or ATS coverters will be fine with a transgo jr, I made over 500 rwhp with that setup and lasted a very long time but the bottle started eating away at the trans,Cant go wrong with the PPE best one of the best tunes out there.

thanks guys, this was my plan first i was going to make ajustable blocking in the rear end and traction bars, second beef up the trans, with converter and transgo jr kit, (i was wondering what kind and if there was any other things i coud do, like i said tho without a new trans i not making that much power) after that i was going to start adding the power, i was just unsure of the best way to add power, i been told every thing from injectors, boost controler, pumps, ect, i would not mind jumping over to the PPE program, the banks is more convenient for me the way i drive, i am the high way going 20 to 30 miles then off the high through city streets, and its nice for me to turn the programer down to level 4 and get 20mpg than when i get off the highway turn it back to fight traffic,

I would make injectors one of the last things I worry about. Lot of people here making big power here on stockers. I think you have a good plan so far. if the banks is what you like then stay with it. you could always upgrade to the ppe or efilive later to make big power. just do the tranny mods first.

if i did a converter and shift kit would the tranny be able to handle 550 to 600hp and still have no problems?

i went and talked to a local diesel performance shop today (never knew he was there untill today) anyways i went there just to get his input on the situation, i told him i was looking to get into the 550 to 600hp range for under $5000 including labor, he said it could be done, this is what he told me to do, ATS 5 star converter, transgo jr shift kit, FASS punp, PPE elect. lift, TS Performance stacked on top of my banks, i told this comb will be pushing 600hp and 1000ftlb, what do u guys think? he also told me that the TSP box makes the turbo spike into the 40s and said he was not sure what a lbz could handle, he was assuming that it was the same as his lly, that he said could handle a steady 35psi max, is this true is tis good or bad?

I would stay away from stacking and go for a PPE programmer or EFILive.....Other than that looks pretty good. 550-600 will be at the crank, not wheels also......

I would make injectors one of the last things I worry about. Lot of people here making big power here on stockers.

Exactly, save your money for now.

I would stay away from stacking and go for a PPE programmer or EFILive.....

Agreed, EFILive, PPE or TTS and you don't need stacking.

i wouldnt go over 32-33psi on the boost pressure. Most people lay down around 500-525rwhp with ppe or efilive and run 12.8-13.00 in the quarter. of course this is assuming you have the right supporting mods to handle that hp.

ok with the ppe will that kill my milliage on the highway if i leave it on the highest level all the time, can i tow 13000 with it on the higent level, and is it good to have your engine reving out to 4800 rps,? if i sell my banks for the ppe besides the converter and shift kit (there a deffinent) what do i need to do to have a good reliable set up, i know i would need 2 pumps with that new ppe program they have, but what kind of pumps, also what else would i need, i have a budge of around 5000, i want a truck that can produce 600rwhp and still be driviable everyday, honstly is that asking for too much with that budge? realy i dont know! some of this is new to me i dont know that much about the pumps, and stacking chips, how much is to much boost, and the hand helds, i try to read up on as much stuff as i can, and every person i ask gives me a there different oppion, "stacking is the best" "a hand held is not enought or wont do enough alone", "a converter and shift kit is not enough" you know what i mean

ok with the ppe will that kill my milliage on the highway if i leave it on the highest level all the time, can i tow 13000 with it on the higent level, and is it good to have your engine reving out to 4800 rps,? if i sell my banks for the ppe besides the converter and shift kit (there a deffinent) what do i need to do to have a good reliable set up, i know i would need 2 pumps with that new ppe program they have, but what kind of pumps, also what else would i need, i have a budge of around 5000, i want a truck that can produce 600rwhp and still be driviable everyday, honstly is that asking for too much with that budge? realy i dont know! some of this is new to me i dont know that much about the pumps, and stacking chips, how much is to much boost, and the hand helds, i try to read up on as much stuff as i can, and every person i ask gives me a there different oppion, "stacking is the best" "a hand held is not enought or wont do enough alone", "a converter and shift kit is not enough" you know what i mean

1.I run lv6 all the time I avg 17 around town mpg before I switched turbos I could get 20+ on the hwy.

2.I would not tell you to tow on the big tune but I have, You will need a full built trans doing that.

3.You will not rev 4800 all the time this would be for the sled pullers.

4.You will only need a good lift pump setup to run up to lv6, lv7 is made to run 2 cp3 pumps, a lift pump from ppe, kennedy or any other vendor will do.

5. You will not need to stack with a PPE its the hottest hand held tuner out there the only thing that most stack are the duramaximizer with the ppe.

6.for 5000 your asking alot for,trans with converter and transgo jr you will have 2300 into it and a built trans is around 5000 and up alone,your looking at 800+ for tuner, lift pump in th earea or 200 and up,.

To make 600 rwhp you going to spend around 9,000 and then your not going to know how long it will live running like that day in and day out.I have 23k miles on my truck most of it has been at 490rwhp im pushing alittle over 580 mybe in the 600 rwhp area now,

thanks u pritty much answered every thing i was looking for, just 1 more thing with the ppe on level 7 can i pull a sled, that is way i am doing most of these up grades, is for sled pulling,

You won't be able to use lv7 without dual cp3's, heres the link for those.http://www.pacificp.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_7&products_id=105&zenid=4c7e7b0d9d84514e2046fc7ebc8f8ba0
Lv6 will work fine for pulling.

ok ic now i was getting confused there i did not know u guys were talking about that, i thought you were taking about getting like duel FASS pumps, but ic now, ok ok, thanks guys, like i said some of this is still new to me