I read some of you like to put oil or 2 stroke oil in your fuel to help lube the IP. Id like to start doing this to, how much oil do you add? and is motor oil better or 2 stroke?

I have been runing 1-2ozs of two stroke oil per gallon in my fuel. I run a fuel that is very close to kerosene so i do it for the extra lube my fuel is missing. Its an 05lly and has been runing on this stuff for 50k no problems at all. If given the choice between motor oil or two stroke the only advice i could give would be that two stroke oil is ment to be burnt and motor oil is not.

I pour it in until I get tired of pouring, sometimes I pour a whole gallon in. I don't notice any difference, but I'm sure my pump is well lubed.

I pour it in until I get tired of pouring, sometimes I pour a whole gallon in. I don't notice any difference, but I'm sure my pump is well lubed.

That's CRAZY! Won't that gunk up your whole fuel system? I use DFL it's a product put out by Petro Canada. (Diesel Fuel Lubricant) You probably can't get this in the US, but I'm sure that someone makes a similar product. The mixture ratio is really decent too. It's ml - L (100mL - 100L fuel). It's just a safety precaution for injectors and pumps. When the fuel switched to ULS my company started having exspensive problems. 35 injector pumps in Deutz generator motors kicked the bucket in the first 2 months. ($600.00 a pump!) All the rig managers got threatend that if they don't use this in the fuel, and have problems - there will be consicuences.:rolleyes:

I use it all the time in my Dmax.

Check out the lubricity study Spicer did there is a discussion thread and a results thread at the top of the fluids section.
Myself I use either Howes Diesel Treat or Opti-Lube because they are made and designed for diesel fuel 2 stroke isn't.

Like he said^^^, you guys need to look this over before dumping money down your filler neck... http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177728

Anybody wanna buy some Marvel Mystery Oil.:deal: Still think it benefits gassers though. Who the hell knows... :confused: my whole belief system is shot to hell now.:shootself
My current formula is top secret though.:secret:

Anybody wanna buy some Marvel Mystery Oil.:deal: Still think it benefits gassers though. Who the hell knows... :confused: my whole belief system is shot to hell now.:shootself
My current formula is top secret though.:secret:

Well facts are facts. My thoughts of what I was using were shot down too.

Marvel Mystery Oil... The name says it all. Not knocking the stuff, it works great in freeing stuck valves in lawn tractors, it's just they should have put more thought in the name. Hey maybe "Marvel Mystery Snake Oil" would have been better? :D

Looks like I've been using the right additive all along! I get the giant bottles of two-stroke oil at Wally World cheap! Thanks for the link, good read. For the price vs. results, two-stroke is hard to beat.

If you want the whole story on oil in the fuel,I can give you a person to PM about it. I have personally watched go from 10w30 to now where I believe he is up to a gallon per fill-up. The best part he is using strained used waste engine oil. I know he ain't right.

I'm tired of the EPA. I'm gonna start burning ground up sulfur and old McDonand's styrofoam containers. Maybe a tire every now and then in my tank to get the NOX really up.

:funnypost :lol2: He's funny

If you want the whole story on oil in the fuel,I can give you a person to PM about it. I have personally watched go from 10w30 to now where I believe he is up to a gallon per fill-up. The best part he is using strained used waste engine oil. I know he ain't right.

Wow used engine oil, Id like a engine that runs on pure old engine oil. But one that wont get damaged by the oil either.

HUH what, so you guys are serioous about using 2 stroke oil in your tank, so say I fill up from 1/4 tank in my 26 gallon tank I would use how much, and does it make it amoke more???

Well facts are facts. My thoughts of what I was using were shot down too.

Marvel Mystery Oil... The name says it all. Not knocking the stuff, it works great in freeing stuck valves in lawn tractors, it's just they should have put more thought in the name. Hey maybe "Marvel Mystery Snake Oil" would have been better? :D

I still stand behind Stanadyne products, though.:bow:
I hate to open this can of worms, but why wasn't the Falex pin and v-block test used?:think: That is also an industry standard test.:coolio:

I use two stroke oil in my 6.5 but not a drop of anything else in my TDI golf. Make sure you buy one that's TC-W3 rated for low ash property. The 6.5's were not designed to burn ULSD but the TDI was so it wouldn't need anymore lub than whatever's already in the fuel. I mix them at about 200:1 ratio.

Wow used engine oil, Id like a engine that runs on pure old engine oil. But one that wont get damaged by the oil either.

About 20-25 yrs. ago, Racor made a used engine oil recycling rig that filtered and blended used crankcase oil with diesel fuel in proper proportions to be burned in the vehicle. EPA made it illegal at some point. I don't think it went over very well anyway because of coking concerns (and rightfully so).
Bio-fuel is the ticket if we can get our old school, old fart oil company execs. to remove their heads from their @$$es.

About 20-25 yrs. ago, Racor made a used engine oil recycling rig that filtered and blended used crankcase oil with diesel fuel in proper proportions to be burned in the vehicle. EPA made it illegal at some point. I don't think it went over very well anyway because of coking concerns (and rightfully so).
Bio-fuel is the ticket if we can get our old school, old fart oil company execs. to remove their heads from their @$$es.

In farm show magazine there was a guy who had a kit to do this, used 3 barrels. One had diesel fuel one had old motor oil and then the machine would clean it and mix it and fill the other barrel.

Rumly oil pull tractors could run on pure crude oil straight from the ground. Maybe thats what we should all drive :D

Bio-fuel is the ticket if we can get our old school, old fart oil company execs. to remove their heads from their @$$es.
Trouble with Bio-fuel is that if you're using farmland to grow fuel, where do you grow food? Ethanol initiatives are already driving up feed corn prices, and we're not even burning very much compared to our overall fuel consumption.

i too read about the 2 stroke for a while before i tried it....well i now recommend it to everyone. the truck ran quieter and also jumped up a mpg or so.

Trouble with Bio-fuel is that if you're using farmland to grow fuel, where do you grow food? Ethanol initiatives are already driving up feed corn prices, and we're not even burning very much compared to our overall fuel consumption.

For one thing, not all bio-fuel is made from virgin materials (especially bio-diesel). There are also some plants that are not food source that can produce oils. These can grow anywhere and some grow very quickly. Some of these plants grow in countries where needed food crops have trouble. We could trade food crops for fuel crops and at the same time eliminate some of the "freebees" we hand out all over the world. Unless you know of some magical way to produce crude oil, you better start to prepare your walking shoes. Wouldn't hurt if people stopped driving aimlessly either (plan your trips people). Maybe if we stopped leveling farmland to build shopping malls full of cr@p that we don't even need and fast food that is debilitating people to the point where they can't even walk, we might be able to produce what we're going to need to survive. Before anyone asks it, yes I walk alot and I love it as much as driving the "6.5". In the end, supply and demand will dictate the outcome... mark my words, you'll see $10.00/gal. by 2020 and bio-fuels will become competitive enough to draw real interest and investment. Until then, count on those evil b@st@rds :evillol: running the oil companies to drain the earth drier than Kelsey's Nuts.:pig: :pig: :pig: :pig: :pig: :pig: :pig: :pig: :pig: :pig: :pig: :pig: :pig:
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If we're trading with foreign countries for fuel, doesn't that kind of throw the whole "energy independence" thing out the window? Bio fuel is not magic, you still have to put something in to get something out. I agree that building shopping malls and housing developments on farmland is stupid. You're forgetting about all of the oil that hasn't been tapped right here in our own country because of tree huggers. If we stopped burning oil for power generation, and switched to a mix of alternative sources like nuclear, wind, solar, and tidal power, we could use oil as a fuel for transportation only, and it would go a lot further.

Ive been reading about guys who will grow like 20 acres of soybeans and got their own oil press and use the beans to make their own fuel for all their tractors and trucks.

I've used bar & chain oil, 2 stroke oil, trans fluid & hydralic oil & they all seem to work about the same as far as reduced "diesel rattle" idles smoother, increased performance(seat of the pants test), & increased mileage (I'd estimate 1- 1 1/2 mpg consistently) My favorite benifit is the reduced noise the improved idle quality. I did notice a little harder starting when the mix gets a lot of oil when it's cold out. I have not tried any of this on my Max yet & don't plan on it yet either. I've run as much as 5 gallon hydrailc oil in 29 gallon diesel in my 6.5 & had no adverse effects as long as it is not below zero outside temp. there did not seem to be much of a difference in the one gallon to 33 mix or the 5 gallon to 29 mix.

If we're trading with foreign countries for fuel, doesn't that kind of throw the whole "energy independence" thing out the window? Bio fuel is not magic, you still have to put something in to get something out. I agree that building shopping malls and housing developments on farmland is stupid. You're forgetting about all of the oil that hasn't been tapped right here in our own country because of tree huggers. If we stopped burning oil for power generation, and switched to a mix of alternative sources like nuclear, wind, solar, and tidal power, we could use oil as a fuel for transportation only, and it would go a lot further.

Forget about "energy independence", what we were talking about was fuel sources. Right now we're trading $$$Dollars$$$ for fuel which is much worse. The attitudes in this country have to change from "let's find some more to use" to "let's use less and use it wisely". Wake up, IT'S RUNNING OUT! If you don't like trees, take a good look at the desert hell holes where the oil comes from... I don't think you would like the good old U.S.A. to become like that! Destroying centuries old forests for a few barrels of oil is criminal. I'm a trucker and a diesel mechanic but I'm sick of the way we waste our natural resources. In the past 100 years, we have used the majority of the earth's fossil fuel and a large percentage of other resources. What kind of legacy are we leaving to our descendants?
Don't get me wrong, I believe industrialization has built this country into what it is today and improved our lives and the lives of people everywhere, but our arrogance and decadence will ultimately tarnish our image as an intelligent and intellectual society. Renewable energy makes sense, period. The way we use it will determine if it works. WE HAVE TO USE LESS! Maybe Gov. Arnold Schwarzenneger of the Peoples Repuplic of California will have to give up his 6X6.:bawl:

I'm tired of the EPA. I'm gonna start burning ground up sulfur and old McDonand's styrofoam containers. Maybe a tire every now and then in my tank to get the NOX really up.

Maybe you could add a little soft coal to the mix! :idea: