Alright, I'm finally ready to start getting the LLY high idle pins distributed to all who want them.


Since shipping will be my biggest expense, I'm going to ask $5.00 for the first pin ordered and $2.00 for each pin thereafter.


I just set up a paypal account, and everything seems to be working fine. I'd prefer payment via this method to kgc2003@hotmail.com (kgc2003@hotmail.com). (I can accept credit cards via the paypal method.)


If you wish, I'm also more than happy to accept personal checks or another form if you contact me and discuss the details.


I plan to ship the pins by U.S. Mail, so please send me your contact info in an e-mail to the above address along with your request.


Important: Please put "High Idle Pins" in your e-mail subject and list your Diesel Place name along with your real name in the e-mail so that I don't accidentally delete an important e-mail.


Thanks for all the help and effort everyone involved has provided. If you have any suggestions to make this run more smoothly, I am all ears. I look forward to helping out!

what is a high idle pin?

Jim

Please refer to this: http://dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13216&P (http://dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13216&PN=1) N=1


I think you'll find plenty of reading! Basically, these pins are inserted into the ECM to enable the PTO option on the truck which allows high idle to be activated.

I got mine at the GMC dealer

I got mine at the GMC dealer
For an LLY?

If you were able to get LLY high idle pins at your dealer, then kudos to you and your dealer! Max and I have had a really hard time finding these. If your dealer does indeed have the correct LLY pins, feel free to add their contact info as a resource for these pins.

and a part #!!

sorry I didnt know that they were differant. they sure look the same.

Here is the DIY information.


http://dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=18254&P (http://dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=18254&PN=1&TPN=1&get=last#1960 39) N=1&TPN=1&get=last#196039

Email Sent.................


Thanks,


OD


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif

anyone have the GM Part number for this?

As far as we can find there is no GM part # for this.

hmmm....... ill see if my source turns anything up, ill find out tonight



so what connectors have been found to not work?

Coyotekid,



You have Paypal. . .

Coyotekid..


You have paypal and email


Mike

i have 2 gm part #s 15356826 and 15356827



both pins are visually identical to eachother and to the pictured one in the other thread

when i get my truck back from the dealer friday ill report back as to which ones work



i have about 10 or so of each so if it works and anyone in the detroit
area is interested in one pm me and we can meet up somewhere

Yep, it looks like that's the correct part number. I'm not quite sure what the deal was, but Max and I have been looking for a GM number for ever with no luck! It turns out that the 15356826 is the same part number I have from Power and Signal, except mine has an additional "--L" on the end. It should be the same pin.


No biggie, I'm still glad to keep sending pins to all who want them.

Coyotekid,


You have e-mail and a PayPal notice coming your way.


Thanks to you and Max for all the work...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif

Paypal coming your way.


Thanks for getting this going for us.

I still have many pins available, so don't be shy! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif


I am usually able to ship the same day you make the order.

I finally got my own high idle installed today as per Max's instructions. The install was relatively easy in my book, but it was time consuming (tedious) for me. It took me about 2.5 hours total, but I'd never done one before either.


I'd suggest having a pair of tweezers handy to remove the blue plug from the #6 position of the connector.


Otherwise, the hardest part was running the wire through the firewall into the cab. I ended up just piercing the grommet of the main harness entry into the cab. I put 1/4" split loom right up to the grommet, and it looks factory in my opinion. There is still a good seal around all the wires so that no moisture or dust can enter the cab.


Otherwise, it's not that difficult. Max did an excellent job with the instructions, and my high idle works great!


Thanks Max!

Has anyone else that I've mailed pins to had a chance to do this mod yet? Any suggestions to improve this procedure would be great.

i installed my own pin and it went smoothly, make sure the wire is small enough... on a side note the green/black wire is the wrong one, its the green/white one that switches off when the pedal is applied, theres another one that does it too but the green/white does the trick

edit: took about 40 mins

ah??? Now I have to double check. 95geo, was it the second one in from the firewall?

Green/Black is definately the right wire on my truck. This also matches up to the wiring diagram. You can clearly see here that it is the green/black wire that I tapped into. (stripped wire)
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/MaxPower/2004-11-14_183632_truck_079_Small.jpg

i checked it with the ignition on and a test light, the green/black stayed on when the pedal was applied the green/white did not

is it possible that the pto is disabled through the ecm when the brake is applied as opposed to when the power is cut off to the wire we installed?

http://dieselplace.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=&stc=1

Interesting......So which one is correct? :confused:
Does this method work for you 95geo? :confused:
Does your method work for you Max Power? :confused:

Mine works for me. I will double check with a test light. I could be mistaking as I don't remember testing it for sure. It does shut off when I press the brakes however.

My appologies. Good catch 95geo.

The green/white is the proper wire. The green/black doesn't go off when you press the brake however it does go off when you take it out of park.

So for all of you that have it hooked up the green/black it will still function correctly because the PCM lowers the rpm when the brake is pushed and there is no power when the truck is in gear. So their is no need to change it.

Thanks 96geo.

I am going to change my how to post.

I hooked mine into the green/black wire, and I have no complaints. When I hit the brake, it kicks down to normal idle. Is there any benefit to hooking into the green/white wire?

Although it may not be as good as solder, I used scotchlock connectors on my high idle and turbo timer mods so that there would be less cutting and splicing when I decide to trade my truck in. It keeps everything as close as factory as possible this way. So if I do need to move to the green/white wire, I can pretty easily.

I don't think their would be any advantage to changing it over to the green/white wire.

Damn you're fast Max! Thanks for the info.

P.S. With the way we've hooked this up, can you still program the idle speeds with a Tech 2? I don't 'spose I really need to, but it would be kinda cool to have a 1000 rpm and 1350 rpm setting, for example.

I am not 100% certain but I think if you change the idle speeds you will have to put it on a switch. It seems like you automatically gain a 'standby' speed when you change it with a tech II. So whenever you truck is in park it will be in standby mode and will idle up to whatever the standby speed is. I am not sure if the standby speed can be changed or not.

Alright, good to know. I'll probably just leave it alone. I'd like my lower high idle setting to be a little bit lower, but I can live with the ~1300 rpm setting it uses now.

can anone that has wired this up to a switch verify if it indeed goes off when the brake is applied as opposed to when power is cut off, it seems rather fool-proof (provide power and it knows the rest)

I have done it that way on more then one truck and it has worked on every one. I think what happened originally is when I went up there with a test light it must have lost contact with the terminal when i pushed the brakes, giving me the illusion that it was the correct wire.

So it is rather fool proof. :rolleyes:

i meen no offence in "fool proof" i guess i should have said simplified

LOL, no offence taken. I feel like a fool and I am glad you caught my mistake. Although it does work the way I did it, it is not the way I intended it to be done. Thansk for catching this fools mistake :D

I just got my pins from coyotekid:D The install went without a hitch and could not be happier. Thanks for all the hard work coyotekid and maxpower! What a great fix for $10.

Good, I'm glad to hear you're happy.

Hi,

Did the install today. Worked GREAT. I used the green/white wire.
THANKS Coyotekid and Max for the time and effort to make this possible.

Mike

I'll be out of town for a few days, but I'll be back next Monday (Dec. 6) and able to ship more pins by Tuesday, Dec. 7. Just follow the format at the beginning of this thread, and I'll be glad to get pins out to all who need them. Thanks!

My truck has the steering wheel audio controls and I just scoll through the menu and set "High Idle" to "on" and as soon as the temp. goes below zero degrees celsius the truck automatically high idles itself to 1250 rpm and stays there untill either the brake is pressed or the engine reaches it min. operating tempature. It came this way from the factory. Why do you guys require a pin to activate yours?

Some people want to activate theirs at their will instead of a computer choosing when it is on or not.

I personally find my automatic high idle to be quite adequate.

A coyotekid, still have some of those pins and instructions. I'd like to make the mod so I can control the idle. I like the factory one, but there are times I want to be on high idle when the computer is not sensing it. If your directions include adding the switches etc that would be great. I can paypal the $$ whenever. Thanks!! :)

Ok, I'm back in town now and ready to ship more pins.

bergeros:

E-mail as instructed in the first post in this thread, and I'll get you taken care of.

My appologies. Good catch 95geo.

The green/white is the proper wire. The green/black doesn't go off when you press the brake however it does go off when you take it out of park.

So for all of you that have it hooked up the green/black it will still function correctly because the PCM lowers the rpm when the brake is pushed and there is no power when the truck is in gear. So their is no need to change it.

Thanks 96geo.

I am going to change my how to post.
That's interesting.... Mine drops the idle as soon as I hit the brake, and I hooked it up to the green/black. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/confused.gif

when would you need High idle in Florida??? I saw frost once last winter, awful mild. But I guess I could use it during a winch???

I have many more pins available for those interested. It would be a great project over the holidays!

Where is the "how to install" thread? I am waiting on my finger stick and thinking about this mod as well. May as well hack it all at once, going to do the egr block off as well. Is there an easy way for the dealer to see this while the truck is still under warranty?

Andy

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17853&highlight=high+idle

Maybe this is a stupid question, but why would you want to do this ?????

To warm up the truck faster and prevent cylinder wash.

I understand the purpose of the high idle function. I use it and it works great. I don't understand why you would want to by-pass the factory conditions. If water temp is above 150 you really don't need high idle.

I'll disagree on that one cowboydave. Other than at a stoplight, my truck rarely "dead" idles at ~700 rpm. I always like to have my truck high idling to prevent wet stacking. You'll notice that most tractor-trailer operators high idle their trucks anytime they are trying to sleep, etc. regargless of the weather outside. Diesels simply don't generate enough heat at low idle to burn all the fuel being injected. High idle solves this problem.

I'm no expert, but I've done a lot of research on the issue, and I think I understand it now for the most part. I've seen various used oil analysis reports back this info up. I feel that more modern and sophisticated engines such as the D-Max are much better at preventing wet stacking, but it's still a reality due to the diesel engine's inherent design.

Is there anyone who has ordered pins and not received them?

I just changed my internet connection so that I have access in my home now. If I lost anything in the process, please let me know. I can now offer same day shipping in most cases once again.

Thanks to all who have ordered--I've still got roughly 100 left, so if anybody needs some, let me know!

Alright, all the pins should have been shipped out by now.

If anybody needs some, contact me ASAP, because I'm about ready to end this deal. \

Thanks,

Carlson

I would like to order some. How many do I need per truck?

i just sent you money via paypal. i would like two of them. if you have any questions let me know

Alright, I'm finally ready to start getting the LLY high idle pins distributed to all who want them.


Since shipping will be my biggest expense, I'm going to ask $5.00 for the first pin ordered and $2.00 for each pin thereafter.


I just set up a paypal account, and everything seems to be working fine. I'd prefer payment via this method to kgc2003@hotmail.com (kgc2003@hotmail.com). (I can accept credit cards via the paypal method.)


If you wish, I'm also more than happy to accept personal checks or another form if you contact me and discuss the details.


I plan to ship the pins by U.S. Mail, so please send me your contact info in an e-mail to the above address along with your request.


Important: Please put "High Idle Pins" in your e-mail subject and list your Diesel Place name along with your real name in the e-mail so that I don't accidentally delete an important e-mail.


Thanks for all the help and effort everyone involved has provided. If you have any suggestions to make this run more smoothly, I am all ears. I look forward to helping out!
Why do I want a high idle pin?

Just sent money thanks for the work

Alright, I just got a whole rush of new orders, so I'll try to get them all out tomorrow, but it may be Tuesday instead.

As I said before, I'm about out of pins finally and was planning to wrap this up, but with this recent surge, I'm wondering if I should see if I can get more pins!

If I order more pins, are you guys gonna want them, or will I get stuck with them?

If you guys want more pins, I'll be happy to see if I can source some more. Let me know what you think.

Coyotekid

I'd Like two if you still have any.

Thanks
Dennis

Coyotekid,

I just PayPal'd you for two pins.

Thanks
Dennis

You have mail, and money......

I would like a pin if they are still available.

Yep, I still have quite a few.

Should I try to source more, or are you guys having luck getting them from dealers now?

Yep, I still have quite a few.

Should I try to source more, or are you guys having luck getting them from dealers now?Ok, I will order a pin from you, just tell me how. I see some guys ordering two pins. Would you install more than one pin per truck, or what does two pins do for one truck?



:grd:

More pins will make your truck run 10 second quarters! :)

No, only one pin is needed per truck, but the pins are relatively easy to foul up while crimping them on the wire, so a lot of guys order more than one. I'm happy to send just one, though. I put a price break on two or more so that I could be a little more accomodating.

You can find all ordering info on the first page of this post. Thanks!

All pins have been shipped. Thanks!

Got mine today. Thanks a bunch coyotekid

Coyote, I'll order two if you have any left.

Yep, I still have some, so just follow the directions on the first page of this post.

Will do. I am out of town right now. I'll be home late Saturday night so will probably paypal ya Sunday. Thanks, David

Coyotekid, you have mail and paypal.

I think I'm all caught up on orders now.

I went ahead and managed to get some more pins from Power and Signal, so let me know if you need any.

i did my install the other day on the lb7, our dealer had the pins, but wow two pins cost me almost 9 dollars, now that how you make a dollar, cost is less than a penny and charge 5000percent more, you gotta like it, on a side note, do not make the solder from the wire to the pin to thick, or it will not slide down all the way to lock in

Well maybe you'll think I'm gouging people as well then fredw, because 2 pins from me would cost $7 shipped.

I'm not getting rich off this deal, trust me. I'm just trying to help out members by offering a convenient source. I realize that by now, most dealers can get the pins.

Also, I've tried to help out when I can. jeazor broke his pins trying to install them, so I shipped him off three more today free of charge.

I'm not saying you're accusing me of ripping people off, I'm just telling you where I'm coming from.

i 100percent was not trying to attack you in any way at all, just stating how much gm charges for a 1 cent peice, thats it, i appoligise if it came accross wrong,






Well maybe you'll think I'm gouging people as well then fredw, because 2 pins from me would cost $7 shipped.

I'm not getting rich off this deal, trust me. I'm just trying to help out members by offering a convenient source. I realize that by now, most dealers can get the pins.

Also, I've tried to help out when I can. jeazor broke his pins trying to install them, so I shipped him off three more today free of charge.

I'm not saying you're accusing me of ripping people off, I'm just telling you where I'm coming from.

Ok, no problem at all--that's the problem with forums sometimes. You can't really tell what others mean!

Finally finished my install this week. I love it. Did manage to break one pin trying to install it. Glad I had bought 2. Did have a moment of panic. Routed the wire through the underhood fuse box, through the firewall, hooked it to the brakes, started the truck and tested it, then shut it down and reinstalled the fuse box cover. The next morning I went to start the truck and it would crank but not start. First thought was oh h s*** I must have shorted something. Popped the hood and cut the wire. Well that didn't help. Then got to thinking "Well I pulled the cover from the fuse box, I wonder..." . Sure enough, I had bumped the Ign 1 relay. Got it seated the the truck ran like a champ. Reconnected the wire and everything is great!

do you have more pins and how do i get them

Sorry, due to site policies I am no longer able to sell these pins through the website.

Why high idle pins. Just hold the gas down and hit the brake 3 times fast. And it's set forever.

Zach, Can you explain that one to me? I just broke my high idle wire from the brake wire. Are you saying you don't need this wire?

1. Turn the Ignition to run, with the vechicle off.

2.Press the accelerator pedal to the floor and hold while quickly pressing the brake pedal three times in less then eight seconds.

3. Release the accelerator pedal and start the enigine, now it's set forever.

This is for my 2005. It stays like this until air intake is around 40 or coolant 150.

Zach, Can you explain that one to me? I just broke my high idle wire from the brake wire. Are you saying you don't need this wire?

1. Turn the Ignition to run, with the vechicle off.

2.Press the accelerator pedal to the floor and hold while quickly pressing the brake pedal three times in less then eight seconds.

3. Release the accelerator pedal and start the enigine, now it's set forever.

This is for my 2005. It stays like this until air intake is around 40 or coolant 150.


Is that just for LLY or does it work for LB7?


Just wondering. THANKS!



LATER!

I don't know. This is what is in my owners manual for my 2005 and It works good. The thin book for DmaxIs that just for LLY or does it work for LB7?


Just wondering. THANKS!



LATER!

If I'm not mistaken, this is the LLY auto-high idle function designed to operate in cold weather. The instructions zach has given are just another method to set the auto-high idle if you don't have steering wheel controls to access menu options.

Regardless, this is not the same as tapping into the PTO functions to control (manually) high idling as we are doing with the pins.

I'm in a position where long warm ups aren't a problem. I tow a lot and wondering if the High idle will shorten the cool down time. Has anyone tried it this way ? Some big trucks have this feature with a switched fan and it works wonders!

Please refer to this: http://dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13216&P N=1 (http://dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13216&PN=1)


I think you'll find plenty of reading! Basically, these pins are inserted into the ECM to enable the PTO option on the truck which allows high idle to be activated.

your link sucks, can you fix it please?