Patiently Waitinghttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif

ive been told by a good source http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif that a race tune should be coming up at years end, and possibly more later next year if all goes well http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif . it should be well worth the wait Edited by: tbone1227

Guys/Gals





I hate to be a pain but ever time I start talking about something that is not completed people want more information and what it will and will not do. This information ends up going to our competitors to help improve their product as well. It is our company policy not to discuss products until they are completed and released for production. I hope you understand our position. We have shown the basic unit and let a little information out about whats coming but all the features and capabilities will not be released until such time as it is released for production. We had high hope this would have been done already but we are having suppliers that are delivering parts later than expected. Parts were due here in September that are still not here!

Nothing wrong with that, but you can't help us for being excited and antsy!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif



Dennis

What he said!!!

It's going to be awesome man, I just know it http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif Edited by: BlueCrew 04 D/A SB GMC

Is the Power Loader 3 for the LLY only??

The PowerLoader III is the replacement for our current product. So once on line the PL III will be for everything we produce for the GM product line.

Awesome....I will wait for mine patiently!!

?Edited by: BlueCrew 04 D/A SB GMC

Somebody has got to know what this new power loader 3 will do. Wasn't it at the SEMA show? Just some info on what it will do would be nice so we can be reassured that it is worth the wait, versis buying a different programmer allready released. I'm still waiting patiently http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif

it will be well worth the wait and probably be somewhat like the LB7 unit that he sells now - just not sure exactly what power levels and options. Definitely will be worth it though, without a doubt http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif

The 'options' are what I'm most curious about http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif


The curiosity is killin me manhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif


Any info helpshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gifThanks

I have played with it. When it is released, it will stay in my glove box at all times. Nough said. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley16.gif
mike

I have played with it. When it is released, it will stay in my glove box at all times. Nough said. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley16.gif
mike


Don't play with it....you'll go blind! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif

I have played with it. When it is released, it will stay in my glove box at all times. Nough said. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley16.gif
mike


Don't play with it....you'll go blind! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif





http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

Well hell, you could always use larger font, try a new color, and TTS may just release their very first one to you.


Do you still get pretty excited about Christmas as well?

LIKE THIShttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif


I always get excited for Christmas http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif


Doesn't everyone?http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif


P.S. will it remove or raise the speed limiter and ajust for tire size?-not askin for top secret info here just simple questions

P.S. will it remove or raise the speed limiter and ajust for tire size?-not askin for top secret info here just simple questions





No peeking! You'll have to wait. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

will it come in red ? - and what about a built in dvd / 2 way pager / GPS on top of it all http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif

I have played with it. When it is released, it will stay in my glove box at all times. Nough said. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley16.gif
mike


Don't play with it....you'll go blind! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif





Who said that?http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif

will it come in red ? - and what about a built in dvd / 2 way pager / GPS on top of it all http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif





Now wouldn't that just be saaaaawweeeeeeeeett!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif


Now thats what I'm talkin bout!http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley16.gif


http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif


Edited by: BlueCrew 04 D/A SB GMC

i just wanna know if it should be the powerloader/unloader

i just wanna know if it should be the powerloader/unloader


That would sure be nice. . .

<DIV>few of us that would buy in a minute if they would get rid of the vin lock, wonder if it is a sale gimic, or neede for the tunehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif</DIV>

does it matter if it locks to the vin ? i wouldnt ever get rid of it so i wouldnt care either way

do you not think in time their will be bigger and better, or you get rid of the truck, your now stuck giving the guy a 1200 dollar free bee, if he would just charge a fee at least to release the vin from if,(good idea)http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif

a company that sells a vin locked tuner (hypertech, diablo, ect)could care less about you selling or trading in the truck or wanting to load the stock program in the truck and sell the tuner because they already have your $$$ Edited by: mtomac

But it does make a difference to some before they buy it, at least to some it would. I know I don't want one with vin lock http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif

Is the VIN locked into the ECM??? Just wondering if you had the ecm replaced already and had the program set to the vehicle VIN and then it won't work because the ECM is not the original computer.

With the exception of the Predator, all handheld tuners I have ever
seen are VIN locked, but only locked while the tune is loaded. Once the
stock tune is reloaded you may use your tuner to flash another vehicle.
As of late I have heard Diablo Sport will unlock their tuners for a fee
however that didn't used to be the case. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif

I will NOT buy a program that locks the VIN. Poor business practice! I would consider a program that locked the VIN only when tuned as mentioned above but will not give my money to a company that sells basically a 'one time use' programmer. I'm not looking to cheat these companies out of money but what happens when a buddy wants to test your programmer to see if he wants his own and he can't because they have locked the VIN number!? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley35.gif

This is not directed at anyone or a specfic company but since I am most interested in the TTS PL3 I hope you guys take this into consideration.

IMHO the VIN lock is used for piracy reasons.


Case in point, the TTS LLY program was ready for market long before it was released. (I drove it in Feb 04) TTS chose to let the other companies release their versions first. The results speak for themselves. Lot's of turbo bark, surging and other drivability issues with non-TTS LLY programs. TTS releases their LLY version and it's as smooth as stock.


Then magically the other companies start to solve their drivablity problems.


Sometimes it doesn't pay to be a leader. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif You provide the education/idea, your competitiors reap the financial rewards. Unfortunately the financial rewards are needed by the leading company to fund future Research and Development.


You decide who you want to support. The "innovating" companies or the "duplicating" companies.


Unfortunately most customers are price driven and this ultimately ends up supporting the "wrong" company.


Another case in point Kennedy did a tremendous job refining the Van Aken tune and pushing it to new HP levels.
Now you can buy it from DPPI for pennies. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif


Edited by: Trippin

Trippin I agree w/ everything you said and Steve addressed that issue previously. But from a customers point of view it looks like all they care about is making more money and as you know these programmers aren't cheap.

Again this is not a reflection on Steve or TTS just my feelings on the subject of programmers in general. I look forward to hearing more details on the PL3 since I've heard nothing but good things about TTS as a company.

To me they can get more money with a vin lock. Take diablo for instance, you pay them $75 to unlock the VIN, and that is probably what it costs them per tuner. There is more money in it for them with a vin lock, but this is just my opinion.

Not disagreeing with one thing said so far, however Predator told me that the vin lock allows you to go to the dealer with a tune installed and get a reflash if needed and then still be able to come home and reload your tune of choice. The other tuners would be useless after a reflash is performed while a tune is installed?


Not to advocate going to the dealer ever with any tunes instaled.

hmmm, not sure about all that as you should always remove the tune before a dealer visit, and generally if you have a reflash, you can still use the programmer just as you normally would. The vin lock on the predator for LLY is there so that it can only be run on one truck at a time but when its returned to stock you could then use it on another vehicle

Another case in point Kennedy did a tremendous job refining the Van Aken tune and pushing it to new HP levels.
Now you can buy it from DPPI for pennies. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif








IIRC the big VA Tune sold via various vendors and JK's VA Tune are not the same?? Or are they?? Anyone know for sure??

IIRC John had commented in a thread how his tune was being pimped out by Van Aken and that Van Aken was not supporting their vendors very well. Maybe the "550RWHP" Got Juice thread.


I'd search for the exact thread, but I could conceive a child, and then raise it to college age before this forum found it. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

Another case in point Kennedy did a tremendous job refining the Van Aken tune and pushing it to new HP levels.
Now you can buy it from DPPI for pennies. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif








IIRC the big VA Tune sold via various vendors and JK's VA Tune are not the same?? Or are they?? Anyone know for sure??
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<DIV>just going back to the begining, was not the first clamed 200plus program done by VA themselves, i am not sure how much it did do, but i remember them having the first out, than quad , then so on, so now how did that one compare to jk va tunehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley18.gif</DIV>

Anything Else?:)
Does any body know if TTS's web site is up to date, I thought it was mentioned that it would be updated soon.

I checked it today and it seems that the new torque converter is on there, but I didn't notice anything about the PL3.

"It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas. . . "

Quality takes times. I'd rather wait another month for something good (or wait another year for the Extreme) than have him put it out when he's not satisfied with it. . . But waiting does suck.):h

Dennis

Yep, it sucks, but from everything I've read, its worth it. I think DT stated that he was awaiting parts delivery, etc.

Guess its time to gnaw those nails down to the knuckle!

That Steve will not release anything until it meets his strict criteria for quality and has made it through all of the testing he requires it go through prior to him releasing it.

As the old saying goes......"you can't rush a good thing"........:D

Hang loose everyone...........we will all be the first to know when it is released.

T:cool: NY

And I'm sure dragging this post out to five pages has really sped the whole process up! Let's quit beating a dead (or unborn, however you like to look at it) horse here.

Beating dead horses is what some of us (namely me) do best!

I talk to Vicki today at TTS about the power loader 3 for the LLY and she stated "It will be avaiable around mid 05" . What is taking soooooo long???? I think I will go with the Hypertech, at least it can be installed and removed as needed. With the TTS it will not be re-movable unless they do it for you. Come on, lets get it a little more user friendly!!! -:t

The features for the PowerLoader III are not out yet so I'm sure she must have misunderstood what you were asking her for. The current product we offer for the LLY cannot be changed but what the PL III will and will not do has yet to be released to anyone outside of engineering. The delay has been caused by suppliers not by us. We were on schedule to release the product at the SEMA show this year until the supplier of the displays used in the unit screwed up. Since it's a custom built display for us it's put us behind. What I can say is they delivered preproduction units and there were problems that they are currently fixing. I am to have three more displays just before Christmas to test. If they are right we will release the production order on the displays and we can get back to finishing the unit.

I talk to Vicki today at TTS about the power loader 3 for the LLY and she stated "It will be avaiable around mid 05" . What is taking soooooo long???? I think I will go with the Hypertech, at least it can be installed and removed as needed. With the TTS it will not be re-movable unless they do it for you. Come on, lets get it a little more user friendly!!! -:t
Go with the Hypertech, Edge, Banks, Predator, or Van Aken. I'm sure you will be very happy with any one of them.
And you can buy any one of them right now. ;)

Then when the Power Loader 3 hits the market you can sell the above tuner for 1/2 price and buy a PL3. Or keep the above tuner and realize that you own one of the second best tuners on the market. :confused:

Is the PL3 going to be for the LLY only or will it be available for the LB7 also?

If the function's were on my wish list, I would ask Santa for:

1. Top speed limiter cut-off-----Removed
2. Speedo adjustment for diffrent size tires
3. Able to read and reset codes
4. Able to be loaded and or removed if any visits to dealer come up
5. Oh ya a 250 hp increase ;)

That's all that's on my wish list Santa
Or if that's not possible time wise my birthday is in February, and that would work too :)

Go with the Hypertech, Edge, Banks, Predator, or Van Aken. I'm sure you will be very happy with any one of them.
And you can buy any one of them right now. ;)

Then when the Power Loader 3 hits the market you can sell the above tuner for 1/2 price and buy a PL3. Or keep the above tuner and realize that you own one of the second best tuners on the market. :confused:What is the problem at TTS, can they not do what the others can???? Why do they charge so much more the all then others who seem to be able to get the jod done in a fair time frame. I think I personally will stay away from any company that takes sooooooo long to do something.
WOW!!!!!! they do have a 50 hp tow computer mod you can do for $600.00-:t

No thank you!!!!!
I will pass

The PL III is for both the LB7 and LLY. To tell the truth it also works on all GM engines from 1996 to 2005. It also works on the Ford engines from 1994 - 2005. So it's a fairly robust design with alot of feature the others do not have.

dwrat

If you need something right now then we cannot help you, pretty simple. Why we take so long is because we want it right the first time. We cannot afford to rush something out only to have to replace it down the road. As far as only having a 50 Hp tune for the LLY your wrong, that's all we have released so far. If I look at the reviews from our customers they are very happy with our product, many of whom ran something else and were displeased with it prior to getting our product. Maybe we can help you in the future.

dwrat

You remind me a lot of mesquito2. Hmmmm. -:t Could this be a Phoenix thing?):h

mike

" Stand on the throttle till you see the eyes of God, count to three then brake"

Mike L.,

Your new sig rocks!:ro)

I for one am more than willing to wait for a quality product. In reading a number of posts about the Tow Tune I have yet to find a negative post (other than people want more power!). On the other hand I be sorely disappointed if Diesel Tech releases the PPIII after all this and still has bugs that need to be worked out. Diesel Tech any info on the '05 Tow Tune?

Diesel Tech,

So would a guy be able to get a credit on his TTS ECM(LB7) and swap for a PL III when they come out?

Josh

I can't wait untill the the PLIII comes out. Steve, how long do you think the waiting list will be once you release it??? I wanna prepare for the worst now. I've heard that your running 3-5 months just on the system your producing now. I can't imagine what I'll be instore for once the PLIII hits the market.

The PL III will cut my time down by a factor of 3. I cann't wait for it to be done just like the rest of you.

Somebody help me out here, The TTS Extreme that everyone talks about and the Power Loader II, are these the same thing? At first I was under the impression the Extreme was a programmed computer or ECM, hence the need/favor for a spare ECM. Is the Power Loader not a programmer you plug to your OBD port to tune the truck?

Just a tad confused on what the TTS Extreme is and the Power Loader is. I thought they were the same. Just looks like the Power Loader is a programmer and if you were to buy one you would recieve such and not a programmed ECM.
Any help would be great.

Or is it actually an ECM they send you that is already programmed for your truck and mods but you get the programmer to switch between levels?:confused:

I say the hell with it, I want one now. Too many good numbers and happy users.

:confused: :confused: Diesel Tech,

So would a guy be able to get a credit on his TTS ECM(LB7) and swap for a PL III when they come out?

Josh

You can have it either way. If you want a stock PCM you will get a programmed PCM and switch. $300 more I believe.Or is it actually an ECM they send you that is already programmed for your truck and mods but you get the programmer to switch between levels?:confused:

I say the hell with it, I want one now. Too many good numbers and happy users.

You can have it either way. If you want a stock PCM you will get a programmed PCM and switch. $300 more I believe.
Ok, so you're saying I can either buy the Power Loader myself and download it to the PCM or I can order an actual pre-programmed PCM and pay a core charge until I send my PCM back, (I would obviously keep my stock PCM)??
Is that correct?

Also, each truck is programmed according to it's motor and modifications, therefore you actually put in an order specifie to your truck/needs and then you wait. Right?
In anyone's experience what was the normal or common wait time. Was it weeks, months?
Just tryin to learn a lil more. Sorry for all the questions. Thanks for your help.

motovet,

What I'm asking is if Steve releases an Extreme/Race/Tow PL III for the LB7, can I send in my Extreme/Race/Tow ECM and swap it for an Extreme/Race/Tow PL III to use on my stock ECM thus not having to swap ECM's for dealer visits and such. Sorry if it wasn't clear.:D

Josh

That post was to ask the same question as I noticed Steve passed up on an answer. It was me that wasn't clear.....gotta quit using those things for a reply.:)

05' The wait has been weeks for many, don't know what it is now. If you go with the programmed PCM you keep yours to go stock if needed. I think the main thing they need is vin# and tire roll out for the shifts.

Just checkin :D

Still no answer on the exchange/upgrade deal?

i was about to buy the power loader untill i read this thread. i am about to get a sun coast trany and i want the power loader 3 but the only thing i want to know is will i be able to un load it for when i take it to the dealer??? i do not want a performance programer i can not unload. so will it be where i can put it back to stock????

motovet
Steves been out of town for a week.

You will have to keep/purchase a stock PCM so that you can take it in for service. This is just one of the drawbacks on this setup. Still very much worth the power you will get but a drawback none the less...

I thought TTS was coming out with a handheld programmer soon. Any word on that? JJ

motovet
Steves been out of town for a week.Oh....thanks. I still am not going to wait for the PL 3.....just curious if I will be able to upgrade the PL2 when the time comes. That would be best case scenario.:)

any new updates?

Looks like McRat has the (not yet released) new tune from TTS and is testing now, just waiting to hear more about it.;)

WHATS UP! :eek: >>>>>>>>>>):h

:confused: .................:( ............-:t ............:o ............:rolleyes: :D

Waiting for my PL2.....still wondering if an upgrade is possible in the future.:confused:

Waiting for my PL2.....still wondering if an upgrade is possible in the future.:confused:How long have you been waiting?

Waiting for my PL2.....still wondering if an upgrade is possible in the future.:confused:
I'm sure we will find out the answer to your question when the PL3 hits the market. At that time they will have probably figured pricing for all aspects.

Any GOOD news to add on PL III yet?

How long have you been waiting?Missed that post. A few weeks back I posted the question on this thread when Steve was on here about the possibility to upgrade my ordered PL2 to a PL 3 when they arrive.....never got an answer. Lady on the phone said no when I ordered, but thought Steve might know otherwise.:confused:

:d

still waiting also.....LOL

I'm still waiting too.:D

When I called last they said Late Summer-Early Fall.:(

Late Summer - Early Fall


WTF :eek: :confused: -:t :mad: Censored

Hmmmmmm this thread made it all the way back to page 13 :wtf1:


Any new :secret: news or updates.

:stirthepo