I went to my dealer today and got a quote on an 08 CC LB Duramax. The price came out to 54,900.00. THis is including the 925.00 destination charge, but not tax. He told me he can do it for 51,500.00 Now i know they can go lower than this, but what would the invoice price be on this truck? I am looking to offer them 50k even for the truck, plus tax. It pretty much has every option minus the marker lights.

Another question:
I wanted the bose speaker system in my truck, but i don't really want the 1300 entertainment package (tv's). Will buying the "Audio system with navigation, AM/FM stereo with mp3 compatibility CD/DVD player and DVD based navigation" package give me the bose? or do i have to get the entertainment package in order to get the bose speakers?

If so, i can save myself an extra 1300.00 on the price because i really don't want the tv's.

Any info will help guys. Thanks!

I got my 07.5 Chevy CC 2500 4x4 LTZ out the door for 50,000 with every option Chevy offered. I got the Nav DVD system and it came with the Bose speakers.

The bose will come with the high end package. They call it the "LT" or "SLT" "LTZ". I always get the GM packages confused with the Chevy packages. So yes, you can get it without the rear DVD player. Now, regarding the markup, this is what I've discoverd after my past two weeks of research. There use to be close to a 13 to 15% markup on the trucks in the early 2000s. The 07's seem to have about an 8% markup from invoice to sticker(msrp). Personally, I don't think the margins are less, GM has just raised the invoice so they don't have to discount them so much. Think about it, everyone wants one for invoice. So if you're GM, give the public what they want: invoice. So GM raises the invoice amount so they still get the same margins or higher and provide the public with a truck for "invoice"! It's very clever! That's my opinion. So if the truck stickers around 54,500, the invoice should be around 49,500 to 50,000 (54,000 x .08). It's not exact because there's more margin in options, but it's a close estimate. If you really want to know, just ask them what it is. The dealers here in Dallas just print the invoice and show it to you. :)

I got my 7.5 3500 Dually 4x4 LTZ with everything other than DVD Nav, rear video and moon roof for 45K. List was 51K so I feel I got a good deal.

I just bought a 2007.5 GMC cc diesel, 4wd. It has everything but a sunroof, nav and the power rear slide window. Sticker was 50,636 and I paid 42,733 + tax and a 199.00 dealer fee. Oh, and I do have the Bose system. I live in Florida and it also had a $3500.00 rebate.

Unless something has changed from last February, invoice is (and has been for years) about .888 of the MSRP bottom line (including shipping). In your case, that comes out to $48,751 (plus tax, etc.). From that, you should be able to deduct any available rebates. Also, if you have the GM card with its credits, don't mention it until pay-up time. Normal trick for dealers is to claim the rebate and your card credits as a way of seeming to lower the price — by using your money! Soooooo, if there is, say, a $3500 rebate on that truck, your cost would be $45,251. At that price, the dealer will stll make 3% of the MSRP. In my experience, if you look and ask, you'll find a dealer who will honestly sell at invoice and give you the rebates — and not add on funny numbers (dealer prep, advertising, large document fee, and on and on). Wher you get into difficutly is with a trade — for the dealer will seldom give you more than wholesale for your vehicle. Best approach is to sell your old vehicle yourself and then offer to order a truck at invoice. That's an in-the-door — out-the-door deal for the dealer who makes the 3% and incurs little in the way of expenses for himself. If you pay 50K for that truck, the dealer is making a handsome profit.

http://www.carsdirect.com

Price out what you want there.

A 2007.5 GMC 2500HD SLT CC LB with everything but sunroof / nav / entertainment comes in at a little under $44k with current incentives in place. Happy Shopping :)

Anyone in the market for a new vehicle should do their research at the following site:

http://www.carbuyingtips.com/

Don't hit the dealership without it ;)

You guys give some great advice. Thanks!
I got a price on the SLT, and i think thats the top of the line model. I just took a look at the gmc website and the bose is standard with that package. So, that now puts me at a msrp of 53,605 and a selling price to me of 50,205, and thats what he offered it to me at (that's the 51,500 minus the tv package). I'll try for 49k plus tax.

Do they really just tell you the invoice price? I would think that it's some what of a confidential piece of info. If they sell it to me at invoice, how do they make money on it?

I don't have a gm card so that won't be an issue, and neither will a trade. Thanks again for the advice

You can use my formula to calculate invoice or some dealers will tell y ou the invoice. No matter what the dealer sells at, he makes 3% on the MSRP. IN your case, if he sold at the invoice of $53,605, he woukld make $1608 from GM (called "hold-back"). Of course, if the dealer is easily moving trucks, he'll hold out for something closer to the MSRP. Start at an invoice offer ("I'll buy it today at $47,700) and work from there. Be sure the dealer understands that rebates come OFF the final negotiated price at closing.

I just bought my 2007.5 on Tuesday. Mines a 2WD - Diesel of course. :)

Sticker was $43,360.
Used the GM supplier discount and saved $3,760.
Added leather - $1,000.
Took the $3,500 rebate.
Got $17,389 on my trade.
Added 7 year 60k warranty for $1,000
After tax and tags and all that garbage I drove out around $22,500.

Don't know about the 08's but I just bought an 07.5 GMC Crew cab duramax 4x4 SLT with everything but nav and dvd. It included the Convenience Package, trailer brake, power camper mirrors, ez lift tailgate, trailer wiring, xm radio, trailering equipment, and winter covers as options. MSRP was $50,039 and invoice was 45,047 including destination charge so right at 90%. I walked out the door at $40,176 after $3500 rebate and $2,000ish GM card cash. No trade in, no hassles, no complaints.

You guys give some great advice. Thanks!
I got a price on the SLT, and i think thats the top of the line model. I just took a look at the gmc website and the bose is standard with that package. So, that now puts me at a msrp of 53,605 and a selling price to me of 50,205, and thats what he offered it to me at (that's the 51,500 minus the tv package). I'll try for 49k plus tax.

Do they really just tell you the invoice price? I would think that it's some what of a confidential piece of info. If they sell it to me at invoice, how do they make money on it?

I don't have a gm card so that won't be an issue, and neither will a trade. Thanks again for the advice

You can do better than that on a GMC SLT! Even with everything and the kitchen sink the GMC SLT 2500HD CC LB comes out to around $47.4 on CarsDirect. That's Entertainment, Nav, Sunroof, everything - built to the max Cowboy Cadillac :D

I can guarantee you the dealer would still be making money at $47.4k... hold out for the end of year or end of quarter "secret incentives" from the factory and you can probably do better than that still. Dunno if y'all noticed, but there's a credit crunch going on right now. Show up to that dealer with full-out specs and tell him you'll write a check for $47k on the spot, non-negotiable. DO NOT USE THE DEALER FOR FINANCING OR TRADE-IN whatever you do.

You can do better than that on a GMC SLT! Even with everything and the kitchen sink the GMC SLT 2500HD CC LB comes out to around $47.4 on CarsDirect. That's Entertainment, Nav, Sunroof, everything - built to the max Cowboy Cadillac :D

I can guarantee you the dealer would still be making money at $47.4k... hold out for the end of year or end of quarter "secret incentives" from the factory and you can probably do better than that still. Dunno if y'all noticed, but there's a credit crunch going on right now. Show up to that dealer with full-out specs and tell him you'll write a check for $47k on the spot, non-negotiable. DO NOT USE THE DEALER FOR FINANCING OR TRADE-IN whatever you do.

Well, when i bought my infiniti i got 1.9% financing from the dealer, so that can't really be beat.(at least for my age) I don't exactly have 47k lying around either lol. I plan on ordering this truck in about 3 months, so hopefully that will do me good. If they take 47k, or even 48k i would be a happy camper.

I think I got a good deal

Don't know about the 08's but I just bought an 07.5 GMC Crew cab duramax 4x4 SLT with everything but nav and dvd. It included the Convenience Package, trailer brake, power camper mirrors, ez lift tailgate, trailer wiring, xm radio, trailering equipment, and winter covers as options. MSRP was $50,039 and invoice was 45,047 including destination charge so right at 90%. I walked out the door at $40,176 after $3500 rebate and $2,000ish GM card cash. No trade in, no hassles, no complaints.

How did you calculate "invoice"? By my calculation, invoice should have been $44,434 (including destination). Not to say you are wrong, but I have yet to find my calc to be wrong and am interested to learn if things have changed. In any case, you have a good deal and the dealer appears to be honest in handling the rebate and the GM card. As for the previous post, you didn't get a "good deal" — you stole the thing! Are they out looking for you! How did you do that — GM employee?

If they won't show you the invoice price, go to a dealer that will. There should be no secrets. I got my 2008 for $500 under invoice. The only thing I wasn't happy about was the advertising fee that GM tacks on to every vehicle. This pays for the fancy brochures and flashy TV ads. It is different for each sales region in the country. The dealer usually passes this on to the buyer. I haven't found a dealer willing to deduct this fee and give me an under invoice deal. I was able to find the same deal in another region that had a lower advertising fee, but it wasn't worth the 10 hour trip each way. I think I got a fair deal.

Brian, check my other posts for the discussion of the advertising fee issue. Was the fee on the window sticker? This is a game that the dealers are playing — over $1000 in some instances. Anyone who does business adveritses — and pays a utility bill and taxes. That's part of doing business — whether the dealer does it or buys it from GM. I have found dealers where the fee does not exist and ones that will remove it. Best idea is to start by refusing to pay it. What if the dealer said, "And here's your share of my utility bill and taxes that I automatically tack on to every deal"? If those in business could routinely do that (just simply add all of their costs to the sale), their profit would be guraranteed. But better dealers sell and make a profit at lower overhead — the more they sell the less cost is involved in each sale (and they sell for less). That's competition — which means a profit is not guaranteed. No dealer should be guaranteed his advertising costs or any other cost. In any case, treat the fee as part of what the dealer is trying to get as profit, since the bottom line is what any deal is really concerned with. BTW, at $500 under invoice (very unusual for a new model year vehicle), I am just guessing that the advertising fee was $500. Check your invoice figure against my .888 X MSRP (on the window sticker, including the destination charge) calculation for the real invoice.

Brian, check my other posts for the discussion of the advertising fee issue. Was the fee on the window sticker? This is a game that the dealers are playing — over $1000 in some instances. Anyone who does business adveritses — and pays a utility bill and taxes. That's part of doing business — whether the dealer does it or buys it from GM. I have found dealers where the fee does not exist and ones that will remove it. Best idea is to start by refusing to pay it. What if the dealer said, "And here's your share of my utility bill and taxes that I automatically tack on to every deal"? If those in business could routinely do that (just simply add all of their costs to the sale), their profit would be guraranteed. But better dealers sell and make a profit at lower overhead — the more they sell the less cost is involved in each sale (and they sell for less). That's competition — which means a profit is not guaranteed. No dealer should be guaranteed his advertising costs or any other cost. In any case, treat the fee as part of what the dealer is trying to get as profit, since the bottom line is what any deal is really concerned with. BTW, at $500 under invoice (very unusual for a new model year vehicle), I am just guessing that the advertising fee was $500. Check your invoice figure against my .888 X MSRP (on the window sticker, including the destination charge) calculation for the real invoice.

Sticker was 55345
GMS price is 47976.15 (I wish)
Invoice was 50547.17
Supplier was 50128.33
My price was 5047.17

What do you think? I still have the printout the dealer gave me for both the 2007.5 I was pricing and the 2008. Every other dealer I spoke with had this fee and was either at invoice or $100 below. Can the dealer manipulate the invoice printout from GM? Dunno; probably. If I had hard and fast proof that they altered the invoice, I would be back in there in 10 mins.

Brian — I begin with the MSRP, including the listed options (window sticker that's there by law). If your window sticker was the $55345, then my formula gives $49,146 as the invoice. This has worked again and again (with solid confirmation). Buuut, I've not had occasion to try it on an '08 (though it was exact on my '07 Classic as of last February — as well as several other rigs on the dealer's lot: I figured the invoice and then asked the dealer for his invoice, which he had agreed to sell at. Came out perfectly). I am prepared to be wrong due to a change in GM pricing practices. Consumer's Guide would be a good check (easy if you are a member, or your credit union) for the actual invoice on your truck. If there are forum members who have the actual invoice figure (from CG or another reliable source) on their own '08 purchase and care to check it against my .888 X MSRP (window sticker with no dealer "market adjustment" added), I would be very interested to see the results. I have no familiarity with Supplier or GMS pricing — though from your figures, there's a lot of GM wiggle room in these vehicles! As for manipulation of the "invoice", I would never trust any dealer to supply the invoice price, for his idea of invoice may well include advertising and who knows what else. Get the invoice from an independent source — like CG (which can be done on line). A small document fee ($75) is reasonable for the dealer to process things. Then there's of course tax and license to add on to the final deal. What anyone pays is their own business. My view just says that one should not be bamboozled, gamed, and lied to in the buying process. They should fully understand the "deal" they accept. That's a good deal.

Just checked my "formula" against a loaded '07 2500 HD D/A 4X4 (included every option, but no advertising). Invoice was .896 of MSRP — up from my previous .888 (which has worked for at least 6 years). I also checked it against the base model and its invoice. There the percentage was .91+. Looks as though things have changed — with dealer's margin's now more narrow (between invoice and MSRP). Brian's invoice would then be about $49,624.

I got my 08 cc z71 slt with every option except the sunroof for 49,100 before taxes. Sticker was 54,900 and I had to order this truck.

The '08's went up a tad; not much. I wonder if the margin changed any...

Brian — I begin with the MSRP, including the listed options (window sticker that's there by law). If your window sticker was the $55345, then my formula gives $49,146 as the invoice. This has worked again and again (with solid confirmation). Buuut, I've not had occasion to try it on an '08 (though it was exact on my '07 Classic as of last February — as well as several other rigs on the dealer's lot: I figured the invoice and then asked the dealer for his invoice, which he had agreed to sell at. Came out perfectly). I am prepared to be wrong due to a change in GM pricing practices. Consumer's Guide would be a good check (easy if you are a member, or your credit union) for the actual invoice on your truck. If there are forum members who have the actual invoice figure (from CG or another reliable source) on their own '08 purchase and care to check it against my .888 X MSRP (window sticker with no dealer "market adjustment" added), I would be very interested to see the results. I have no familiarity with Supplier or GMS pricing — though from your figures, there's a lot of GM wiggle room in these vehicles! As for manipulation of the "invoice", I would never trust any dealer to supply the invoice price, for his idea of invoice may well include advertising and who knows what else. Get the invoice from an independent source — like CG (which can be done on line). A small document fee ($75) is reasonable for the dealer to process things. Then there's of course tax and license to add on to the final deal. What anyone pays is their own business. My view just says that one should not be bamboozled, gamed, and lied to in the buying process. They should fully understand the "deal" they accept. That's a good deal.

Good info, and I found a dealer who was NOT gonna do the add fee TILL I got him to invoice, then all of a sudden the advertizing fee of 1200-1500 showed up on the order.. I walked on that one.

i know this may be a ways from where your at but check out this dealership
www.montanachevy.com

talk to coley jones in internet sales. tell him your a DP member and see what he can do. there is a reason they sell to all over the us. excellent dealership to deal with!

Just bought my LMM today, 2500 extended cab 4x4. It's a SLE with not too many options, has the vinyl floor mat, but has SLE1 vinyl seats (fold down arm rest). A pretty plain jane, but still a duramax and allison and has the tow and handling package with the 3.73 limited slip diff. The sticker price was $42.5K, with all rebates sale price was $31.8K (with a bed liner). Seemed to me to be a great price. What do you think? Did I do OK ???

Thanks

Let me second the advice of TOTHEMAX. The Montanachevy.com (Karl Tyler in Missoula, Montana) is a great place to do business. Worth checking from anywhere in the US or Canada (and I have no connection with them). Adrexo, you must be related to the CEO of GM — or their calculator broke down! 64jeepjohn, I suspect you may hear back from that dealer. Tallone, your deal comes out almost exactly to the .896 X MSRP. Must be a smaller margin on the new trucks.

Yeah, it was a stressful deal, I responded to a "lost leader" deal in the paper. They tried everything to push me away from a deal, finally said they would honor the deal if I closed the same day. It wasn't easy and I really had to push hard, but in the end they gave it up for the add price of $31.8K. Nobody was happy and we fought right down to the end. I had a good feeling I got a deal when the sales manager was pi$$ed and wouldn't even look at me. Anyway, 21 miles later and it's in my driveway :-))

Oh by the way it's a 7.5 not an 8

Ehnas - I just went by their computer print out. Not saying they are showing me the correct number but near as I can tell all they got was the holdback, a "doc fee" of $99 and a couple hundred for marketing BS. I am not opposed to them making a profit, that is what makes the economy tick. I didn't get employee pricing, but I did do better than supplier pricing according to family members that have access to that information.

Back in December '06, the '06 K2500 CCSB w/ D/A's were going for $41k-$42k fully loaded (depending on the sunroof option) before tax.

Ehnas - I just went by their computer print out. Not saying they are showing me the correct number but near as I can tell all they got was the holdback, a "doc fee" of $99 and a couple hundred for marketing BS. I am not opposed to them making a profit, that is what makes the economy tick. I didn't get employee pricing, but I did do better than supplier pricing according to family members that have access to that information.

Dealers are in business (like any other business) to make a profit. That's the way it should be. My only quarrel is how they do it. If any company wants to sell cars like the super market sells soap and soup ("Here's the price; tale it or leave it") that's fine, too. But as long as buying a vehicle is like buying a flying carpet or a camel, then the buyer should be as well equipped as the seller in doing the hassling. In particular, when a deal is made, the dealer should stand by it — not attempt to change it with funny numbers and lying at pay-up time (as I've seen them do). For those of us buying vehicles, the more we know the better. Know the invoice price, know that the dealer makes 3% on the MSRP in any sale (sometimes more with GM incentives), know that the advertising fee is an entirely bogus attempt to create an add-on [one of our loacal dealers was taken to court by the state for adding on his state business tax to every deal and is now faced with possibly making refunds], know that more efficient dealers sell more and can sell at a lower price, know that many dealers will attempt to cheat you out of the GM incentive money and your GM card credits by putting your money on their side of the bargaining (with some chain dealers, it is clearly company policy), know that it is rare to actually receive more than the Blue Book wholesale for your trade (regardless of the calculator manipulation that is presented to you — More for your trade and then more for the new vehicle). Don't buy in haste — gotta buy something this weekend sort of thing. Know exactly what you want and the limit you are willing to pay. Know that the vehicle you are looking at is not really being saved for someone who is coming to look at it later today (but will sell to you if you buy right now). Know that you will often get a better deal on an order (since the dealer does not have to finance the vehicle to sit on the show lot). Be willing to use the Internet and phone to shop around and out of your immediate area. I am not a dealer and not a salesperson (never have been). But I've become very POed at what the auto sales business has become (as you can tell).

Just a little update on my situation. I went back to the dealer today.once again the msrp was 53,605 on the truck, and i have to order it. It has everything except the tv's. He gave me a price of 49,700 plus tax, which would make it 53,179. He told me that there would be a 600.00 business rebate (don't know exactly what it is) and that would bring me to 52,579 total. Any opinions on this? Where talking fifty thousand dollars here and he won't do any better than this so i walked out and told him i would keep in touch. He told me he was only making 500.00 on it (complete BS) and couldn't do much better. I told him i would take it for 52k even with tax and he wouldn't do it. I'll just play the waiting game. Any advice from you guys?

Just thought I'd share another datapoint on pricing.

I just bought an '07.5 LTZ 2500HD with pretty much everything but the 3 biggies...nav, dvd, and sunroof. Not sure of the exact definition of msrp...my sticker says 48,900 + 900 for destination. Additionally, the dealer had "$1500 worth" of dealer installed options. Highly inflated, but, probably worth another $700.

I bought it for $40,750 + tax. This price includes $3500 in rebates. Not sure how I even got that, as Edmunds only said $2500 for October. Naturally, I wasn't questioning it.

One caveat...beware that in the negotiating approach we took, the old "circled price" on the negotiating worksheet said "$40,750 + tax". Well, when they drew up the paperwork, they were taxing me on $40,750 + $3500 rebate. It's about a $260 difference and I told them to pound sand. They complied.

Anyway, just thought I'd share my data, for what it's worth, as I feel like I got a great deal, and, and am very grateful to this forum for arming me with the data I needed.

Just a little update on my situation. I went back to the dealer today.once again the msrp was 53,605 on the truck, and i have to order it. It has everything except the tv's. He gave me a price of 49,700 plus tax, which would make it 53,179. He told me that there would be a 600.00 business rebate (don't know exactly what it is) and that would bring me to 52,579 total. Any opinions on this? Where talking fifty thousand dollars here and he won't do any better than this so i walked out and told him i would keep in touch. He told me he was only making 500.00 on it (complete BS) and couldn't do much better. I told him i would take it for 52k even with tax and he wouldn't do it. I'll just play the waiting game. Any advice from you guys?

Did you ask him to show you the invoice price?

Just thought I'd share another datapoint on pricing.

I just bought an '07.5 LTZ 2500HD with pretty much everything but the 3 biggies...nav, dvd, and sunroof. Not sure of the exact definition of msrp...my sticker says 48,900 + 900 for destination. Additionally, the dealer had "$1500 worth" of dealer installed options. Highly inflated, but, probably worth another $700.

I bought it for $40,750 + tax. This price includes $3500 in rebates. Not sure how I even got that, as Edmunds only said $2500 for October. Naturally, I wasn't questioning it.

One caveat...beware that in the negotiating approach we took, the old "circled price" on the negotiating worksheet said "$40,750 + tax". Well, when they drew up the paperwork, they were taxing me on $40,750 + $3500 rebate. It's about a $260 difference and I told them to pound sand. They complied.

Anyway, just thought I'd share my data, for what it's worth, as I feel like I got a great deal, and, and am very grateful to this forum for arming me with the data I needed.

Out of curiosity, what were the dealer installed items and how much were they?

I got a 08 fully loaded for invoice (50K) this includes NAV and rear seat entertainment. I am only missing the PTO (never seen one)

Use the phone and the Chevy web site to locate dealers and a truck you want — or to get a quote on an order. Use the Yahoo cars web site to build your truck and check the invoice. Ask on the phone if the dealer will sell at invoice — no funny fees added — with all rebates going to you. In the deal you are talking about, are they giving you any factory rebates or putting them on their side of the deal — ,sounds like the3 former (the only making $500 is a flagrant lie). On an order, it should easily be invoice (.89 +/- of MSRP), very small doc fee, less any factory rebates (plus taxes) and no advertising fee nonsense — or walk out. On an order (no trade) the dealer has an in the door out the door deal (no financing to lot the vehicle) on which he makes 3% of MSRP (at least $1500 in this case). The only reason for him to not take this is that he can sell every truck he gets (on his factory allocation) at a much better price. With national sales falling off, I am guessing that folks are not standing in line to up-bid you. Look further and be patient.

Use the phone and the Chevy web site to locate dealserrs and a truck you want. In the deal you are talking about, are they giving you any factory rebates or putting them on their side of the deal. On an order, it should easily be invoice (.89 +/- of MSRP), very small doc fee, less any factory rebates (plus taxes) and no advertising fee nonsense — or walk out. On an order (no trade) the dealer has an in the door out the door deal on which he makes 3% of MSRP. The only reason for him to not take this is that he can sell every truck he gets (on his factory allocation) at a much better price. With national sales falling off, I am guessing that folks are not standing in line to up-bid you. Look further and be patient.

Good advise; except I was unable to find any dealer who was willing to drop the advertising fee. Ain't like it used to be. I called dealers up to a few hundred miles away too.

Out of curiosity, what were the dealer installed items and how much were they?


The items were
- the gm brand bedliner
- a pretty nice looking set of running boards
- a clear coat bra
- some pin-striping.

Pretty obsene that they'd 'list" it for $1500, but, probably worth somewhere around 1/2 that

Well according to the cars direct website i got the truck under invoice. MSRP was 53,600 and i got it for 49,500 but with taxes and registration i ended up paying msrp. Total for the truck with tax etc was 53,658.00 It was oredered on Monday. Thanks for all your help guys. I got a good price (i think) on the truck, but with tax and registration, it didnt look so good. - Peter

Well according to the cars direct website i got the truck under invoice. MSRP was 53,600 and i got it for 49,500 but with taxes and registration i ended up paying msrp. Total for the truck with tax etc was 53,658.00 It was oredered on Monday. Thanks for all your help guys. I got a good price (i think) on the truck, but with tax and registration, it didnt look so good. - Peter

Tax & reg really doesn't count as everyone must pay that and it doesn't go to the dealer anyway. Good deal and congratulations.

Well according to the cars direct website i got the truck under invoice. MSRP was 53,600 and i got it for 49,500 but with taxes and registration i ended up paying msrp. Total for the truck with tax etc was 53,658.00 It was oredered on Monday. Thanks for all your help guys. I got a good price (i think) on the truck, but with tax and registration, it didnt look so good. - Peter

I am always prepared to learn something new and anticipate that dealer margins may change. But my calculation says your invoice was closer to $47700. Go to this web site and build your truck in detail http://autos.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTE4ZjN2M3I3BF9TAzI3MTYxNDkEc2VjA2ZwLXRy b3VnaARzbGsDc3Bpcml0LW1vcmU-. select the Build A Car otion. Let us know how the invoice comes out doing that. I would like to know if things have really changed so that my calculation (.89 X MSRP) is no longer correct. Just a few monts ago, however, it was still good. Yup, if they are all in cahoots, you can't get around that advertising fee thing. Here, it is not common and not difficult to find a dealer who will actually sell at invoice. Once they get hungry with slower sales, things will change. BTW, I just went to the site noted and built a one ton LTZ with nearly every option. MSRP came out $51,999 and the invoice came out $46,645 — 0r .897 of MSRP. That makes your invoice $48,079. If yo are hapy with your deal, that's all that counts. But I don't think you were leveled with.

I am always prepared to learn something new and anticipate that dealer margins may change. But my calculation says your invoice was closer to $47700. Go to this web site and build your truck in detail http://autos.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTE4ZjN2M3I3BF9TAzI3MTYxNDkEc2VjA2ZwLXRy b3VnaARzbGsDc3Bpcml0LW1vcmU-. select the Build A Car otion. Let us know how the invoice comes out doing that. I would like to know if things have really changed so that my calculation (.89 X MSRP) is no longer correct. Just a few monts ago, however, it was still good. Yup, if they are all in cahoots, you can't get around that advertising fee thing. Here, it is not common and not difficult to find a dealer who will actually sell at invoice. Once they get hungry with slower sales, things will change. BTW, I just went to the site noted and built a one ton LTZ with nearly every option. MSRP came out $51,999 and the invoice came out $46,645 — 0r .897 of MSRP. That makes your invoice $48,079. If yo are hapy with your deal, that's all that counts. But I don't think you were leveled with.


You're right. My invoice was around 47,773 according to that site, but that was off a 53,265 truck. Mine was 53,600, so i would guess 47,800 was invoice. I was told that i was getting it a couple hundred above invoice, but i never asked the invoice price.

Tax & reg really doesn't count as everyone must pay that and it doesn't go to the dealer anyway. Good deal and congratulations.

Thanks, i guess it makes it a little better when someone else tells you that you got a good deal lol. I still think i didnt because of what the total number was.