: Has anyone Experienced this
feelin_sorry_4_ 08-08-2007, 11:18 AM i was driving my bosses new duramax today because he had a docters appiontment and we had yards that needed to be mowed, i dont know what the heck but this engine seems lazy or like it dont have any a$$ behind it i dont know what the problem could be its the first time that ive drove this truck so i dont know if its always this way or if it has just started doing this, but either way this pos caint get out of its own way any ideas
VC-17 08-08-2007, 11:24 AM i was driving my bosses new duramax today because he had a docters appiontment and we had yards that needed to be mowed, i dont know what the heck but this engine seems lazy or like it dont have any a$$ behind it i dont know what the problem could be its the first time that ive drove this truck so i dont know if its always this way or if it has just started doing this, but either way this pos caint get out of its own way any ideas
What year is it? Do you own a diesel truck? What are you comparing it to? If you are HOT RODDING your BOSS'S truck, shame on you! Diesel's will have some turbo lag at take off unlike any gas engine.
feelin_sorry_4_ 08-08-2007, 11:31 AM im about 90% sure its 2006 i drive a 98 12 valve although i have got some work done to it there's no reason why this thing should feel weaker than my 98 all i have is intake exhaust and very little pump work. i bought the truck used with those mods already done i just was worried about this duramax i would hate to take my bosses new truck back to him broken you know. i have done some calling around thats how i found out about this place and i have been told that chevy diesels are a great diesel for speed but are weak when it come to pulling something i dont know thats why im asking
VC-17 08-08-2007, 11:38 AM i have done some calling around thats how i found out about this place and i have been told that chevy diesels are a great diesel for speed but are weak when it come to pulling something i dont know thats why im asking
WEAK when PULLING? I DON'T think so. What MORON told you that?
Bulldogger 08-08-2007, 11:42 AM Yea so weak in pulling they beat all the competition:D . Stick to the Dodge forums.
feelin_sorry_4_ 08-08-2007, 11:43 AM chuck hassel, diesel tech from english chevorlet crystler dodge. the load that im pulling is maybe 2,000 pounds tops my cummins dont even notice it but this truck you can almost watch the fuel gauge move and it seems to have a really hard time with it. i was noticing a grinding feeling up to about 30 mph but other than that i really didnt notice anything else out of the normal
feelin_sorry_4_ 08-08-2007, 11:47 AM Yea so weak in pulling they beat all the competition:D . Stick to the Dodge forums.
maybe if all that was in the competition was a bmw and a voltswagon. i would talk to the dodge forumns what ever they are if it was a dodge problem but my dodge dont have any problem pulling this light load im asking because i think theres something wrong but i'm not sure. im not trying to pick a fight but this lack of power concerns me. (its not my truck)
Vege-Taco 08-08-2007, 11:48 AM Actually, in all the reviews I've read the GM diesels are rated #1 for acceleration whether loaded or unloaded, towing or not.
It's possible that your truck has an aftermarket tune installed and you don't know it.
feelin_sorry_4_ 08-08-2007, 11:50 AM my truck dont have any programmers in it its a 12 valve they dont make any to my knowledge
feelin_sorry_4_ 08-08-2007, 11:52 AM and other than an intake from amsiol me bosses truck is completaly stock with 18,709 miles on it
feelin_sorry_4_ 08-08-2007, 11:53 AM what about the grinding from 0-30 is that normal
Jack Bauer 08-08-2007, 11:54 AM I know just from expirience over the past week. One bad tank of fuel and a Fuel Filter with 3500 miles on it is shot and the truck runs like garbage. No power doesn't shift right. Maybe hes due for some maintenance .
Bulldogger 08-08-2007, 11:54 AM If you're truely looking for an answer change the fuel filter and check the air filter, when they start to clog you can get reduced power.
VC-17 08-08-2007, 11:55 AM maybe if all that was in the competition was a bmw and a voltswagon. i would talk to the dodge forumns what ever they are if it was a dodge problem but my dodge dont have any problem pulling this light load im asking because i think theres something wrong but i'm not sure. im not trying to pick a fight but this lack of power concerns me. (its not my truck)
I think you need to take the truck back to your BOSS and use your SUPER FAST, NO PROBLEM PULLING 2000LB LOAD 98 DODGE truck for work and stay on your Dodge forum. We don't welcome Brand bashers on this site. Good luck.
Vege-Taco 08-08-2007, 11:56 AM At this point I'd have to suspect driver abuse. I've never heard of anyone having grinding noises or lack of power with a 2006 GM truck (or any other recent model for that matter).
Vege-Taco 08-08-2007, 12:00 PM I think I have solved the problem. When you got to work this morning and took off in your boss' truck, you didn't notice that someone had chained your Dodge to the trailer you're pulling. That grinding noise is your rims dragging along the asphalt behind you and the apparent lack of power is simply 7000 lbs of dead weight being drug along for the ride. :D :p: :eek:
VC-17 08-08-2007, 12:02 PM i think i have solved the problem. When you got to work this morning and took off in your boss' truck, you didn't notice that someone had chained your dodge to the trailer you're pulling. That grinding noise is your rims dragging along the asphalt behind you and the apparent lack of power is simply 7000 lbs of dead weight being drug along for the ride. :d :p: :eek:
Exactly! :D
Gray Gmax 08-08-2007, 12:06 PM I think I have solved the problem. When you got to work this morning and took off in your boss' truck, you didn't notice that someone had chained your Dodge to the trailer you're pulling. That grinding noise is your rims dragging along the asphalt behind you and the apparent lack of power is simply 7000 lbs of dead weight being drug along for the ride. :D :p: :eek:
Either that, or the e-brake:eek:
feelin_sorry_4_ 08-08-2007, 12:09 PM lol guys im not trying to start a fight im just telling the truth. the only answers i will get from the dodge place is tell my boss to trade in his chevy for a cummins,but i have not thought about the fuel filter he did fill it up after we mowed are last yard yesterday so i would have plenty but its about 4 miles from the station to his house and every thimg was fine i didnt notice anything coming into town this morning but when i got to town and started all the stop and go stuff i could really notice the lack of power. i going to check the air filter right now i will keep yall informed on what we find out
feelin_sorry_4_ 08-08-2007, 12:15 PM the filter was a little dirty on the bottom but not enough to make a difference
feelin_sorry_4_ 08-08-2007, 12:22 PM the air filter that is
Vege-Taco 08-08-2007, 12:30 PM Hey, yeah, double check the parking brake. I've been known to drive around with that on a time or two. :duh:
feelin_sorry_4_ 08-08-2007, 12:39 PM well good news chuck came by on his lunch break and we changed out the fuel filter. there was trash floating in the canister the filter looked like it had been mudsling and the truck is a completely different truck now. never knew filters played such a big role thanks for all the help although some of you guys wanted to talk more crap than help
Mackin 08-08-2007, 12:46 PM well good news chuck came by on his lunch break and we changed out the fuel filter. there was trash floating in the canister the filter looked like it had been mudsling and the truck is a completely different truck now. never knew filters played such a big role thanks for all the help although some of you guys wanted to talk more crap than help
So how does it compare now to your 12 valve?
Narcah 08-08-2007, 01:06 PM Yup, fuel filter it is. Usually something extremely simple. And don't mind the Dmax guys, they're just proud of owning the best. ;)
Ldy AlliDu 08-08-2007, 01:16 PM maybe if all that was in the competition was a bmw and a voltswagon. i would talk to the dodge forumns what ever they are if it was a dodge problem but my dodge dont have any problem pulling this light load im asking because i think theres something wrong but i'm not sure. im not trying to pick a fight but this lack of power concerns me. (its not my truck)
You seem to be a stand up person, not only did you fix your bosse's truck but you did not let these people get to you, you said nothing wrong, obviously there was something wrong with the truck, I feel embarrassed :( but I am proud of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
johndeerrm 08-08-2007, 01:21 PM Hopefully he is better at changing filters than he is at piecing a sentence together.
Lennox69 08-08-2007, 02:39 PM come on guys leave him alone....he's probably amazed on how well the truck is running now....and let him get back on mowing!!!! teenager i'm guessing?
Mackin 08-08-2007, 02:49 PM Well I'm feelin sorry 4 him because he has to wear his lawnmower ear muffs home driving that 12 valve. :D
FourMoCajuns 08-08-2007, 06:44 PM Well I'm feelin sorry 4 him because he has to wear his lawnmower ear muffs home driving that 12 valve. :D
This comming from a Harley rider????;)
rjm022 08-08-2007, 07:29 PM those mechanical 12v motors are damn good! no electronics needed to run it- only one wire. plus, they sound like a diesel- not like the new diesels that sound close to a gasoline engine!
thejdman04 08-08-2007, 09:02 PM when I first read this i thought, air and fuel filter or maybe an injector stuck. Not too many injector problems on the lbz's. I cant knock the guy for his sentences, cause I dont type too well either. If it were an injector problem shoudl notice either overful oil (fuel getting into the oil) and a rough running truck. The druamax shoudl def be quicker. But them old 12 valve really really really pull, they arent quick but they love to lug down and pull. The are reliable and easy to modd, jsut a fuel screw away cheap power. If i could build a truck tid be a 12 valve, allison auto sfa, and chevy body.
johnny6.6 08-08-2007, 09:16 PM We still haven't heard how the d-max compares to the 98 dodge now. What happened?:D
doswacko 08-08-2007, 09:17 PM im about 90% sure its 2006 i drive a 98 12 valve although i have got some work done to it there's no reason why this thing should feel weaker than my 98 all i have is intake exhaust and very little pump work. i bought the truck used with those mods already done i just was worried about this duramax i would hate to take my bosses new truck back to him broken you know. i have done some calling around thats how i found out about this place and i have been told that chevy diesels are a great diesel for speed but are weak when it come to pulling something i dont know thats why im asking
that must be why I sold my 97 and 99 dodge diesels and got duramax trucks.
My dodges had a hard time towing my loaded race car hauler up hills.
My duramax's and even my ferd have no such problem.
Jeremy James Andres 08-08-2007, 09:36 PM You guys want to see 12-Valve potential check out Chris Werner's 01 Ram on pgs 78-84 in the September 2007 Diesel Power magazine. That beast has wrapped dyno's and shown #'s of 1237 hp and +2400lb-ft!!!!!!!
www.5150ram.com
I'm a Duramax fan all the way, but that shit is CRAZY! :eek:
johnny6.6 08-08-2007, 09:45 PM You guys want to see 12-Valve potential check out Chris Werner's 01 Ram on pgs 78-84 in the September 2007 Diesel Power magazine. That beast has wrapped dyno's and shown #'s of 1237 hp and +2400lb-ft!!!!!!!
www.5150ram.com
I'm a Duramax fan all the way, but that shit is CRAZY! :eek:
I too am a cummins fan and that truck is damn impressive but I have to say that most of the trucks in that power range are modified class sled pullers that recieve sustantial engine maintenenance on a regular basis. I am highly skeptical about the longevity of a truck making that kind of power used in his application (recreation and daily driver). I think he's going to scatter that thing all over the highway one day.:D
DSTEVENS 08-08-2007, 10:00 PM Hey feel sorry 4, dont worry about being mistreated here, some of us are trying to make up for the 6.2 and 6.5 years, best wishes for your cummins, they are good engines. D.
thejdman04 08-08-2007, 10:03 PM I tell you what when you start comparing 98's to 98's, the 12 valve (since we are talking motors) is 5000 x what the 6.5 is. NO one can knock that, can the 6.5 be made reliable and power, but the 5.9 is reliable and as powerful as the 6.5 out of the box
DSTEVENS 08-08-2007, 10:18 PM How about those 350 converted diesels of the late 70's early 80's, those were classics for gm diesel unreliability. D.
JDiesel 08-09-2007, 05:50 AM i was noticing a grinding feeling up to about 30 mph but other than that i really didnt notice anything else out of the normal[/quote]
Did we take the parking brake off ?
saratoga 08-09-2007, 08:11 AM He was just not used to the fact that he could actually hear other things besides the 12V rattling away.
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