It may be a little premature for best results but here they are. Dodge dealer here in NC installed a new TST PowerMaxCR on my 2004.5 CTD. I drove it 202 miles yesterday and today returning home. I did not kick it in the rear any. I drove it about 50/50 in mountains of NC and rest on I-40 coming home. It stayed on setting #5 on both power level and turbo boost. This is on the high side for casual driving. I used 9.643 gallons. That is 21.04MPG. Hand calculated.
More results to come.


My truck at www.GoRowan.com/2004ram (http://www.GoRowan.com/2004ram)

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Wow, that is quite a difference over the factory mileage. I checked out the TST website and was kinda impressed with the data listed there. How has the 48RE held up to the increased torque and hp?? That is my biggest worry on these trucks. Add a post and update on the results.

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Just made another short trip with TST box set on 3/3. Was mostly interstate driving at about 65mph. Hand calculated 21mpg. That ain't bad for a 3.5ton 4x4 truck.


Click here to see data sheet on 48re that I found at the dealer.
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I also have read several places that starting with the 2004.5 Dodge is installing a newly designed turbo that works much better with boxes like the TST.


My truck at www.GoRowan.com/2004ram (http://www.GoRowan.com/2004ram)

04.5 turbos are stronger, operator and tuning error is what plauged the TST with earlier popped chargers.


It sounds like you have the new milder program in the TST. You need to run it up to the higher levels for the real power. Did the dealer put in the new TST wastegate setup on your turbo?

They made changes to the wastegate.

They made changes to the wastegate.


and the compressor, and the turbine, and the exh. elbow, and the shaft.

So how should I control myself with my 04 and a TST? What would I do to blow it?

Do not go above 4 on torque setting esp if you have their comp box!

'Pop Goes the weasel'

I have a friend with a dodgezilla (HX40 hybrid) and he toasted it running 7/7 on their comp box. 497 RWHBOOM!

How about th eway you use the throttle. I hear you can help avoid problems if you don't punch it, causing the turbo to try and spool too quick.

I guess that will help hoot, although the 'unkillable B-1 series' turbos have also gone boom with the TST box.... so much fuel and instant spool. Most agree a set of 'towing twins' are about the only way to get streetable drive and max power from that box.
That is the concensus i hear at the TDR and from a few running the powermax. Piers's own truck, Idaho CTD etc.

TST box and milage. It is official, I am getting 21+ milage on all my short hops on Interstate driving and country road driving 55-65mph. I really think the one item that makes this combination such a great truck is the Dodge emblem it totes.

I love my TST. *smile* I have it stacked with the Edge EZ. I keep the EZ on level 3 and run the TST on 4/4 up to 5/5 with the stock turbo. No funny noises yet! I installed a fuel pressure gauge. I'm keeping pressure until about 2700 RPM. I need to upgrade to the FASS soon. Oh -- with the EZ and TST, the poor clutch just couldn't take it any more. I had a SBC Dual Disc installed yesterday. That clutch ROCKS. Well worth the money IMHO.

Next upgrade -- front and rear Road Armor. They should be arriving in about a week. Then I'll have to buy the wife some furniture, then the FASS, then Twins. I like this truck. :) I don't know how much HP I'm pushing yet. I'll be meeting a guy testing some new EDM Injectors for the 305/555 Thursday and we're going to Dyno together. I'll have to post the results of mine stock and with the EZ/TST.

Hoot the main thing is dont overboost the stock charger (35 or so, 38 MAX!) and while on boost dont let off the throttle fast if it can be avoided. High drive pressure, high boost, high EGT's and then a sudden loss of fuel/drive pressure is what will wipe out the turbo. Its not the spoolup that kills them its the sudden spool down with pressure on both turbine blades!

Hoot the main thing is dont overboost the stock charger (35 or so, 38 MAX!) and while on boost dont let off the throttle fast if it can be avoided. High drive pressure, high boost, high EGT's and then a sudden loss of fuel/drive pressure is what will wipe out the turbo. Its not the spoolup that kills them its the sudden spool down with pressure on both turbine blades!

In other words.... try not to bark the thing? I don't think it's pressure on both turbines that does it. I believe it's an imbalance of pressures between the exhaust and compressor side when you let off. Basically twisting the shaft to the point of breakage.

So far that's the deal though. Everybody has been telling me pretty much the same... watch the high 30's. Dmax has the same cutoff point before it blows the turbo.

From an engineering standpoint, it would be that letting off the gas quickly produces a very high negative acceleration of the turbo, causing an even higher (almost infinite) jerk. This is consequently very bad for longevity.

I would agree, try not to go from full throttle to full off-throttle if at all possible. I'll just leave my truck alone... although I am interested in the mileage benefits from the Edge and/or TST. Since I value that warranty that I have I'd rather not put on anything that would be detectable by the dealer until it's up.

I just love how they keep using that picture of all three connecting rods, that is so much crap. Its an inline 6 of course its going to need bigger rods for that much power and compression. And i also love the little fine print on that poster. Not dissing the cummins in anyway, they make gobs of tq, and is a pretty well made engine, its just i have heard a few things and some of the owners of the newer versions arent too happy, what about you guys how do you like them, i would like to hear some more thoughts on them before i make a decision.

You're going to hear people crying about all the big three diesels. I'm hearing more and more Cummins with over 100,000 miles (3rd Gen) than i've heard Dmaxes on this forum for a long time breaking 100,000 miles. Do they like the new Cummins? Do they like the new Body/Chassis.... They love both... better than anything previous.

Only exception are the guys wanting major hp with little resources. Can't be done. Actually never really could. Takes big mods and big $$. The Cummins guys pretty much put diesels on the performance map way before the others even thought about it.

Minumum requirement is a turbo.... $1500 Box... $850 .... trans/convertor $5000

Both the Cummins and the Dmax want to blow the turbo around 40 psi. No big difference. Problem with the Cummins is it's not as heat friendly and the stock turbo with it's small housing is spikey so you have to be careful.

The Edge drag car is using a 3rd gen block but the rest is a mix and match of the best.

But stock or a little box they do pretty well.

What we really need is for someone to gather 3 doolies together. All equipment the same, same 4.10 gears, auto tranny, with about 15k lb. trailer hooked to all three.

1) from standstill, goose them all for 1/4 mile on flat land
2) from standstill, goose them all up 4% grade

Of course never let them exceed a safe speed at top end.
Allow the auto trannys to shift by themselves

Please give us the honest results.

This very test will tell you what true torque will do and who has the strongest pulling truck.

Auto tranny stock....probably the 6.0 psd in a landslide.....no tranny protection and a quad 160 or whatever it is. Modded tranny under $3500.....allision allllllllllllllllllllllll the way.

Hoot, I think I remember reading about 6 months ago that you weren't going to do any power bombs to your truck. Reconsidering? :) I stacked the EZ with the TST on mine and it has a VERY smooth power curve in comparison to the TST alone. It pulls stronger throughout the RPM range, but overall is a few HP less stacked. The EGT's are also about 200 degrees lower with them stacked also.

Hoot, I think I remember reading about 6 months ago that you weren't going to do any power bombs to your truck. Reconsidering? :) I stacked the EZ with the TST on mine and it has a VERY smooth power curve in comparison to the TST alone. It pulls stronger throughout the RPM range, but overall is a few HP less stacked. The EGT's are also about 200 degrees lower with them stacked also.

I lied.

I'll play with the TST for a while. Let me ask you this...

If I'm sitting stopped and put it on 9/9 and just pump the accelerator a little while holding the brakes, will it puff?

I have the NV5600. I know at WOT on 9/9 it gets hot fast. Don't do it without boost and an EGT gauge. I don't see them in your sig and donn't remember if you have them. Without my EZ, I make a lot of smoke on 7/7.

I have so much power with the EZ 3 and TST on 5/8 that I can easily break the tires loose in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gear. If I hit a bump in the road in 5th gear it'll start spinning. I need twins.... :)

Oh -- and on the gauge thing. I HIGHLY recomment NOT going with the Stewart Warner Maximum Performance Series. Seems like I should go over to the TDR and tell everybody about my problems with them...

Let me stress this some more -- on 9/9, I can easily max my 1600 degree EGT gauge. The boost isn't too bad with the TST elbow, but it comes on quick. With the combination of that and the heat, it could blow the turbo pretty easily.

I have the NV5600. I know at WOT on 9/9 it gets hot fast. Don't do it without boost and an EGT gauge. I don't see them in your sig and donn't remember if you have them. Without my EZ, I make a lot of smoke on 7/7.

I have so much power with the EZ 3 and TST on 5/8 that I can easily break the tires loose in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gear. If I hit a bump in the road in 5th gear it'll start spinning. I need twins.... :)

Oh -- and on the gauge thing. I HIGHLY recomment NOT going with the Stewart Warner Maximum Performance Series. Seems like I should go over to the TDR and tell everybody about my problems with them...

I bought the TST setup with guages. Should be here today.

Those crank and cam position sensor plugs are fun. Real fun! :) You might have to use a screwdriver to slide the red lock tab on the plug over. Other than that it isn't too bad if you don't need more than a finger or two to get it loose. Well worth it when it's all hooked up though!

Brown delivered tonight..... in between taking my daughter to piano lessons and picking up milk, pouring rain, making room in the garage, I got it installed.

Quality of the unit is first class. Instructions are excellent. Worked perfectly as soon as I fired it up.

I found that using the blade of a flat screwdriver worked well to pry out the cam sensor plug by wedging it at the spot that needs to be depressed and using the screwdriver like a crowbar.... albeit carefully. Had that plug out in about 30 seconds.

Boy did this thing wake this truck up. On level 3/2 it feels like major power.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/rockon.gif Can't test it too well in the rain tonight.

Makes the Bullydog downloader like a child's toy.

Did you get the 'Twin Flash' Version?

You mean first flash is me going by and the second one is the turbo?

No, the 'Twin Flash' is their Comp Version.

A real animal compared to the standard TST box.

TOTAL TURBO KILLER!

My friend is trying not to grenade a Dodgezilla!:eek:

Someone asked about 9/9....at least on the 1st version it would run the truck dry on fuel almost immediately w/o an aux. pump...fass or inline carter or whatever you want to use. The newer versions....that might not be the case.

I don't need no stinkin comp version from what this thing feels like already on only 3/2

The Twin Flash if exactly that... for trucks running twins!

Sounds like I'll need to get mine re-flashed when I get my twins in '05. :D

Hoot...you don't really neeeeeeeeeeeeeed any box.....who wants to bet he will own a "twin flash":D ......of some variety):h

Hey Hoot,
Go easy in the rain. My TST will put my truck sideways in 3rd. gear. I will also say that with mine wide open I have about 5 more MPH on top end. That is useless anyway. I am still averaging 21+ on the highway. I think I got 2muchpower. Just sitting in my garage mine gets a couple miles a gallon better than my best buddy's PS.

Right now I'm settling in on 3/3. Seems like a good combination of torque and hp. Unreal how it kicks in when it upshifts.

My TST will turn the truck sideways in 3rd or 4th gear on dry pavement. :D

Rain finally stopped this afternoon.

Tonight I punched it on 3/3 and when she hit second it layed a posi. I like it!

You guys are making me and my EDGE EZ jealious;)

DGFoster -- That's why I stacked my TST on the EZ. :D

I may have to look into that:)
how much is the TST???