On my truck there seems to be a setting (designated by a 0) where I can turn off my headlights. When I turn the light dial (CCW) it won't stay, and doesn't work anyway. The manual indicates that turing it fully CCW to the 0 will turn off my lights.


Is there anyway to get this to work?


Thanks.

On a Canadian truck there is no way to shut them off. You could wire in a diconnect switch but that is your only option.

The new head lights are Gay. They say on even when you turn off truck. Give a a normal switch with out all the new automatic sensor crap

Can someone tell me the best way to wire in a disconnect switch or give me some ideas? my truck seems to scare all the game away with its lights on. In My buddies dodge we can drive right by them. in my truck all you see is tails. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif


btw my truck was made for use in canada.

Greetings,


On my '02, you push the domelight override button 3 - 4 times in quick succession and it will turn of the daytime running lights if they're on or turn the headlights off if they're on auto. You can turn them back on again by pushing the domelight override button 3 - 4 times again. Or, they automatically reset when you turn the key off and back on. It sounds a single chime when you do this - both on and off - to let you know it's switched. Don't know if this works on Canadian trucks or on '01's but the procedure is provided in my owner's manual.


Good luck,


Don

I believe a company called "Pacific Audio" made some headlight override switches that might work on these trucks. They were made for the 99 models that did not have a way to defeat the auto headlights.


It might not work on the 03+ trucks but I bet it would on the 01's and 02's...

I've seen them work on an 02.

On my truck there seems to be a setting (designated by a 0) where I can turn off my headlights. When I turn the light dial (CCW) it won't stay, and doesn't work anyway. The manual indicates that turing it fully CCW to the 0 will turn off my lights.


Is there anyway to get this to work?


Thanks.








Try this link below,I have a Canadian 03 as well. This should fix it..


http://dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4771&KW (http://dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4771&KW=Canadian) =Canadian

caswell,



What year is your truck? On mine, if the headlights are on, I can
just turn the knob CCW (a momentary position, returns to 'Auto') and
they will turn off. If they are off, I can turn the knob CCW
again and they will come back on. Or, I can turn them to on
manually. . .



Dennis

baimpala, Canadian trucks don't have that option.

I am just going to put my son's night light on the dash. I think duct tape should do the trick.

Cheap route......SLIGHTLY depress emergency brake. Before starting truck.



BUT................





An annoying chime comes on intermittantly. While in gear or moving.



Not sure if there is a fuse that can be removed? For the chime
thingy? American 02's have an auto light defeat feature.
Canadian trucks don't.

Believe it or not that doesn't even work on the 03 and newer trucks!

Ah, yes, I see now in the schematics in Helms, there is a domestic and an export version. . . add a switch at the BCM.

Thanks guys, Looks like I'm stuck with lights 24/7 unless I do some wiring.

Looks like it, but wiring is FUN!



Dennis

In my case, ZAP comes to mind.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif

On the 03 and newer domestic P.U.s you must remove the dash top and carefully unplug the wires going to the sensor. Next take a paper clip and cut it off so you have a U, insert it into the plug on the end of the wires, tape it up so that the paper clip is all covered. Finally re-install the dash top and PRESTO the headlights only come on when YOU want them on. To make the day time running lights stay off, remove the bulbs, clip off the exposed wires on the outside of the bulbs. then re-install the bulbs. No contact so no workee. As Ross Perot said "It's really very simple"


Jim

Paper clip, LOL

MaxPower,


Laugh out loud if you want but a paperclip is the right diameter and the right spacing to fit the electrical connection. Don't knock it untill you have tried it.

If you have a canadian truck in the US get it reflashed with the latest US programming and then the you should be able to shut the lights off.
jim- I tried that on my 2000 but on those it seemed to want some voltage coming into the wiring as just crossing them still let the lights on. However the wiring is totally different on the -03-up trucks so I suppose that is different too. Luckily since my switch will turn the lights off I'm not too bothered by it.

Isn't the wiring different on the export trucks? . . . Or is the wiring the same in the U.S. and Canada, but the programming is different. . .

I'm pretty sure the wiring is the same and only the BCM programming is different but I might be wrong.

Okay, I don't have the Helms here in Rochester with me. . I remember there were two wiring diagrams. . . not significantly different, but different. Part of the question was whether Canadian trucks are 'export' or not. If not then I'd say the wiring has to be the same. . . curious.

Thanks,
Dennis

On the Canadian trucks.

Would there be a way to connect the wires going to the ebrake switch, to the light sensor wires so that the head lights don't come on when the ebrake is set. This would be the same way that the day time running lights go off.

Heu Max, is it that much darker in Canada during they day? Wonder why they did it two different ways, that doesn't save GM money.

Put a switch in parallel with the park brake light switch... When the parking brake is off, a micro switch opens a cct which makes the daylight running lights come on. A switch in parallel will close the cct, with the parking brake off. You will, however get the parking brake warning light come on the dash, but no DLR. It worked on my Kodiak, perhaps it will work on a pickup too. It is not the best waqy of doing it, but I can't find another one.

Mylash

Heu Max, is it that much darker in Canada during they day? Wonder why they did it two different ways, that doesn't save GM money.
No not darker. Just different laws, I think.

Put a switch in parallel with the park brake light switch... When the parking brake is off, a micro switch opens a cct which makes the daylight running lights come on. A switch in parallel will close the cct, with the parking brake off. You will, however get the parking brake warning light come on the dash, but no DLR. It worked on my Kodiak, perhaps it will work on a pickup too. It is not the best waqy of doing it, but I can't find another one.

MylashThat won't work on the 03 and up. In Canada even pushing the park brake will not shut the lights off. Not even if you push the park brake before you start the truck!

my 04.5 The 0 position is only a momentary contact, it goes back to auto position, but my lights turn off. To get them on again I have to turn the swith fully clockwise. And have to manualy return the switch to auto, to make sure they turn off, else they will stay on after I remove the key.

JJ

Hey JJ you should be able to flip it back into the off position and they turn back on. I flip mine on and off that way all the time. I only turn it clockwise when I park with the parking lights on... It's nice because that way like you said it just pops back to the auto position.

ive got a 2004 year and the only problem i have is during the day if i want to turn the running lights on and off there is no way i know if there on or not. does that make any sense?

Well when you flip it to off when its light out it turns the running lights off. Only way to check is to pull up to a reflective surface (windows, shiny bumpers) and flip the switch and watch the reflection dissappear. Unless you want to leave it in drive and set the brake and walk around... I don't like doing that.

i wonder why they dont have some kind of idiot light to show there on?

Probably because it would be on all the time and would drive me nuts... Unless it was a quick "DRL off" message in the DIC, that I could stand..

Probably because it would be on all the time and would drive me nuts... Unless it was a quick "DRL off" message in the DIC, that I could stand..

i like the way you think nar. now lets find some one to write the program to do it.:rolleyes:

Sorry to rehash this, but did anyone find a "fix" for the lights always on with the Canadian sold trucks that now live in the US? A local dealer looked into this for me and I told him to stop when he started talking about replacing wiring harnesses, computers, etc. If it is indeed a reflash of some sort that would be great! I'd really rather not have to splice in a switch if I don't have to.

Does anyone have any info about "Pacific Audio" that was mentioned?
Also, the link to http://dieselplace.com/forum/forum_...asp?TID=4771&KW (http://dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4771&KW) =Canadian that Alan posted doesn't work for me. Does anyone know if there's info in there that could help me with my '02 truck?

Thanks,
Johnm
2002 Silverado D/A CC SB 4x4 (Made in the USA, sold in Canada and back in the USA)

Are you guys saying that there is no way to just turn the headlights off or is it the DRL that your talking about when you turn the switch to 0? There isn't any way to unhook some wire and the DRL's are out permenantly with no afteraffects? Has anybody figured out an easy and permenantly affective way of getting rid of all beeping chimes on the new trucks. Doors open that type of thing. My Z71 now I just took out this little box where the annoying beeping was coming from for the door and such. There was a fuse I took out for the DRL's on it too. I wish it's that easy on the 04.5' HD's. These modifications will be on of the first things that get done to it.

My brother is in the same boat. MaxPower knows what he's talking about on the Canadian trucks. My brother has an 04 that came from Canada and the fact he can't turn off his headlights is making him crazy. When his truck was at the dealer having the front diff replaced the dealer looked into it and basically said it was near impossible...a reflash certainly won't do it.

I'll have to look at a wiring schematic. I am pretty sure that a reflash of the BCM would do it. The problem is that I don't think the tech 2 would allow a US flash in a Canadian truck. This is really just a stab in the dark guess but I'm probably not too far off.

So while there might not be a software solution to it, I have no doubt in my mind that we could do a hardware work around. While not ideal, it is an option. I will try to see if I can figure out something fairly simple. I han't given it much thought yet.

Are you guys saying that there is no way to just turn the headlights off or is it the DRL that your talking about when you turn the switch to 0? There isn't any way to unhook some wire and the DRL's are out permenantly with no afteraffects? Has anybody figured out an easy and permenantly affective way of getting rid of all beeping chimes on the new trucks. Doors open that type of thing. My Z71 now I just took out this little box where the annoying beeping was coming from for the door and such. There was a fuse I took out for the DRL's on it too. I wish it's that easy on the 04.5' HD's. These modifications will be on of the first things that get done to it.
The headlights on a canadian truck. Just buy one that didn't come from canada. If you don't like the drls, remove the bulbs. They are seperate little lights, not like the drl-dims on your z71. The chimes can be gotten around by installing an aftermarket stereo, or by pulling one wire from the bcm that tells it that the key is in the ignition.

Still haven't tried this yet (my truck is American), but I might soon. According to the source it worked on Canadian trucks ('03s and up). Auto headlights drive me crazy.Censored

http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4633&highlight=Canadian+headlights

That is an option. I was hoping to incorporate the OEM switch into it somehow.

In the end I just wound up putting a relay with a normally closed contact on the low beam lead between the bcm and the underhood fuse/relay box. The relay is wired to the emergency brake so putting the brake on operates the relay and turns off the lights. Ended up putting another in the park light circuit in the same way. Didn't bother with the high beam circuit- just leaving the headlights on low beam most of the time. Was cheap and easy- just 2 relays and a little time.

i wonder why they dont have some kind of idiot light to show there on?

My '97 had a DRL indicator...

If you want to kill the DRLs for good, why not pull the DRL relay?

Cougar, That's what I wish you could do but it doesn't sound like you can. I did the same thing on my 96

If you don't like the drls you can just wait for them to burn out or pull the bulbs. Simple. Also they shut off when you turn the switch to the lights off position during the day...

Aren't the wires where the lights were still live though? I wouldn't want to everytime I get in my truck to turn a switch to shut lights off I wouldn't want on. I wish they would've left it like my truck now how you just pull a fuse or something. Has anybody figured out the dinger for the doors and lights,seatbelt if your moving two feet.

Aren't the wires where the lights were still live though? I wouldn't want to everytime I get in my truck to turn a switch to shut lights off I wouldn't want on. I wish they would've left it like my truck now how you just pull a fuse or something. Has anybody figured out the dinger for the doors and lights,seatbelt if your moving two feet.
They'd still be live but so what, it's an empty socket then... The chimes can be gotten around by installing an aftermarket stereo, or by pulling one wire from the bcm that tells it that the key is in the ignition. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6778&highlight=wire+bcm+chime

Seriously, unless you love the stock look, I would just get an aftermarket stereo that plays mp3s and stuff, then you have no chimes at all if you want.

nar, I like the stock stereo. I tried an aftermarket one in my first truck and the buttons are just to small for when you wanna reach over without looking and change or something. I'm sure there's other nice ones out there but I'd keep the stock one in cuz I like it. I've got a 10" Sub behind the seat and wired into the back of the stereo with a low lin converter. Stereos high and amps low.

Cougar, That's what I wish you could do but it doesn't sound like you can. I did the same thing on my 96
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/think.gif Why not? I know there's a DRL relay in the fuse/relay box under the hood of my truck, and while I haven't tried it, I would be surprised if they would work if I pulled the relay.

Try it and see. I wanna know,Cougar

There is a fuse in the underhood electrical center for the DRL's. Done deal.

Awesome!