ok guys i went back to the track today and unplugged the egt gauge from the juice hoping it would not backdown after hitting the limit . this made no difference at all . in fact all i could get was a 13.30 . it was alot warmer out today than the last time and 60ft i could not et under 1.90 , 1.83 best last time .





i want solid 12 sec performance without the use of nitrious , might try that later but i wants 12's on any given pass . can someone tell me what to use . i will try other sugestions and sell off what does not work . please give me some help on what to try !!!! another stack , tts, va , or something . thanks





also check my classifed ad , i lowered the price on my wheels . they must go

I am no expert but I think a 13.3 with no nirtrous is quite respectable.

not sure if this will work for you or not,but back when i ran that same stack i made the most dyno hp using the 215 and the edge/*** but my fastest track times came by using the 135 quad stacked with the edge,.also what level of edge are you stacking with your 215 have you tried it with none then added it up one stage at the time.have you lowered your torsion bars down to be able to launch harder,also what about tires,i see in your sig you have 18 inch rims and 325s i am sure they are nice rims and tires but bigger tires and the limited flex that 18 inchers provide lose a lot on the line to...just my 2 cents,hope this helps.....Edited by: king d

You could receive a lot of suggestions on this, and all of them likely work for the suggestor, BUT you need to find what works for your truck in your air. Remember, sometimes less=more. Like KingD stated, the lesser Quad tune helped him. Edited by: Kennedy

I am no expert but I think a 13.3 with no nirtrous is quite respectable.





ditto

king d , WHEN I RUN I PUT ON THE STOCK WHEELS/TIRES AND TURN DOWN THE BARS . caps , sorry!!





i have ran a 13.0 also , 2 weeks ago i ran the 135 and the level 5 , it ran a 13.3 , i then put in the 215, level 4 and went a 13.1 then later a 13.0 . this time my first run it ran a 13.6 on the 215,level 4 . the first pass is always the worst for me , because the trans learns the shift i guess . after that the same tune it went a 13.3 .





so guess what i am getting at is that the 135, level 5 was probably working the same or better . i will try it out again this coming weekend hopefully. the track here will be closing soon .





any thoughts on water injection ? my buddy insist that i do it .

lowering the 60' times will get you into the 12.9X's

How would a person go about lowering them from a 1.83 ? That seemed pretty good to me. Just wondering what a guy might do to get much better than that? Maybe less wieght?

all the following effect 60' time:

tires, tire pressure, shocks, boost/rpm @ launch, track prep

Good times.........


What's your trap speed?





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trap speeds please.....

Mtomac what do you run your tires at when your at the strip?

depends on the tires

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last week 103 mph , this week 101mph . there was a noticable head wind at the track . and a 25 plus degree warmer day . i did have my front tires at 50 and 30 rear . i keep getting some spin and hops out of it . if my 60's would have been normal then it would have been a little better


i tried the 135 and the level 5 tonight and it does not seem as strong as 215, level 4 . what are my stacking options . and what about that water injection i asked about ? nitrous may be the ticket here .

i dont know anything about water meth,i like nitrous, start my tire presuure at 30 front and 25 rear and keep backing down til i get the launches i desire

king d whats you 1/4 miles times . i see you have TTS and quad . can you stack them ? hows it work? . thanks for the ideas on tire pressure . now that i think back i should have figured to lower my tire pressure , that would of helped probably

try 40 in the front and 30 in the rear for stock tires

If you still have the stock shocks you need to ditch them for anything else, preferably something adjustable that you can stiffen up to help keep the rear from squatting and raising the front end which unloads the front tires. Also clamping the rear springs together or putting spacers between the bottom of the 4 main springs and the top of the main bottom overload help with axle wrap and help keep the rear end from squatting and unloading the front. When launching a 4wd truck you do not want to transfer weight back to the rear like you do with a 2wd.Edited by: mtomac

i have bilsteins . and the rear was hopping

the bilsteins might not be stiff enough so clamp the rear springs or use spacers to activate the main overload so you're not just working off the 4 main springs.

tomac , i am a little confused on what you mean , a pic would help !

Here's a picture of the clamps and the spacers used with a 2nd factory main overload flipped over that I use for truckpulling. For dragracing the spacers would go between the top of the factory main overload spring and the bottom of the regular four spring pack. Or you can clamp the springs without using the 2nd factory overload or spacers. Both ways work well to activate the main overload spring but clamping the springs also lowers the rear of the truck about 1-2"

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sounds like just clamping it would be the best bet with the least amount of work ? any idea on where and what clamps to get . exactly what does this do for me , sorry i did say you lost me , right ?

You got traction bars?

Clamping all your springs together will stiffen up the rear end of the truck, making it not squat so easy when you take off. This keeps more weight on the front for better take offs. To clamp them, you could take 2 pieces of flat stock steel with a hole on each side and use bolts, or get U-bolts with a piece of flat stock on the bottom.

you guys are awesome , thanks i will try it out

two questions... trans stall and lift pump?





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Mike do you have a part number for the overload spring pictured. Thanks..............what is your 60' with the mentioned tricks?

Not right off-hand. It's part of the whole spring pack, I doubt it's available seperately. My best 60' time is a 1.64 with and w/o the locker (with good track prep). I'm almost always in the high 1.6's, low to mid 1.7's. On a bad day I'm in the high 1.7's low 1.8's.

Did you buy the whole spring pack to get it?

check the junkyards