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: H2 wheels and Rancho/RCD Lifts


1SAST
10-29-2004, 03:01 PM
I have done plenty of searching and am still not quite sure what the answer is. I have a good line on 4 new H2 wheels and tires. My question is will they fit on a 4 inch rancho lift. From what I searched through the answer is no. Will H2 wheels fit on a 4 inch rancho lift with 285 tires. Will a 6 inch RCD lift clear H2 wheels. Also I do not want to use spacers. I plan on getting one of these two lifts. Should I just consider a different tire/wheel combination.


Eric

gearhead
10-29-2004, 03:17 PM
h2's should fit without a lift. just crank the t- bars and a little trimming of the lower bumper plastic.

MaxRock
10-29-2004, 03:18 PM
I have H2's on a non lifted 2WD '02 truck. I cranked up the T bars about 1.5" and spaced the bumper out about 3/4". I tied back part of the drivers side fender skirt.


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MaxRock

1SAST
10-29-2004, 03:23 PM
Thanks for the suggestions guys. I am going to lift the truck and not by the torsion bars. I have just read some things that seem to say the wheel has to much back spacing and will interfere with some of the components with the lift. Just wondering if anyone has any first had knowledge.


Eric

leftmy8.1
10-29-2004, 04:43 PM
I have been considering this also, The backspacing of 4.5" is standard for most lifts, but its based on a 16" wheel. I had a 6' fab tech with 16x8 cneterline's with 4.5. on my 8.1. I though it always looked kinda stupid with the front wheels spaced out so much. I think the best setup is 17x8.5 with 5 ro 5.5 bs and a lift that does not push the front wheels out. I just got my cromed h2's, I am going to mount 285/70R17 BFG's with 1.5" front lift and rancho shocks. But I am going to sit tight and wait for rcd, feb tech or rancho to build a lift that does not push the front tires out and then I'll do mine.

2500HD04
10-30-2004, 11:00 AM
I have 4" rancho kit and 295/70/17 and the ride is awesome. The tires
do stick out in front,supposed to be for stabilizing ride because truck
is higher? Should have no problem clearing H2's. My rims are same size
as H2's

8.1GASSER
10-30-2004, 02:44 PM
I believe he is asking if they'll fit due to the backspacing of the H2 wheel. From all the research that I have done it looks as they will not clear the spindle...not so much the wheel, but the buldge of the tire rubs. I'd stick with a wheel with BS of 4.5-5". or go with a full drop lift kit such as Superlift, Full Traction, Pro Comp, CST, etc.


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2500HD04
10-30-2004, 05:28 PM
My Bad http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley18.gif Can you explain please.
Why do H2's fit on a non lifted truck but not a lifted one. What do
lift kits do that makes the tires stick out like they do. They have to
move something ? I am just curious. Always looking to keep the grey
matter churning. I can see it now 85 with ahlsiemers and all I can say
is diesel place!
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8.1GASSER
10-31-2004, 09:08 AM
Well..you actually can go out in your driveway to get a visual..with the Rancho and all spindle type lifts..a new spindle is used..a much taller one..it keeps your UCA in the factory location, but the LCA is relocated. So in laymans terms its like mounting your tire 4" or so lower than where it is from the factory. Therefore placing the meat of the tire very close to the UCA right by the upper ball joint..rims with less backspacing creates more room in this critical area. Drop down kits lower both UCA and LCA, basically takes your whole front suspension and lowers it the desired amount. Hope this helps.


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ski1
10-31-2004, 11:30 AM
there was a white dmax with a rancho lift running the same wheels I have, 17" WELD renegades with 5.125 bs. the h2 wheels are 5.5" bs. not sure if that 3/8 would make a difference or if he had to grind on anything for clearance. Again, not sure on the owner but reported that it worked fine.

Big Angry
10-31-2004, 03:40 PM
I have been considering this also, The backspacing of
4.5" is standard for most lifts, but its based on a 16" wheel. I had a
6' fab tech with 16x8 cneterline's with 4.5. on my 8.1. I though
it always looked kinda stupid with the front wheels spaced out so much.
I think the best setup is 17x8.5 with 5 ro 5.5 bs and a lift that does
not push the front wheels out. I just got my cromed h2's, I am going to
mount 285/70R17 BFG's with 1.5" front lift and rancho shocks. But I am
going to sit tight and wait for rcd, feb tech or rancho to build
a lift that does not push the front tires out and then I'll do
mine.

I wouldn't hold your breath if I were you....RCD, Rancho and Fabtech
are almost certainly not going to start producing non spindle lifts. My
Tahoe had a Rancho on it, but it was an OBS, and that was the last of
the full drops for GM from Rancho, since the NBS 1/2 tons hit the scene
in 99, everything has been spindle by these three. Even Pro-comp has
started to market both the full drop and now a new spindle lift... Like
it or not, spindle lifts are here to stay. And a by product of spindle
drops is the wider front track. And from what I have seen, the H2's
will not fit on a Rancho. I would imagine it's gonna be the same for
RCD or Fabtech as well.

2500HD04
10-31-2004, 05:33 PM
Thank you, I almost understand, what is uca and lca. Upper and lower something. I am going outside to look.

8.1GASSER
10-31-2004, 07:19 PM
upper and lower control arm...a-arms.


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2500HD04
11-01-2004, 12:13 AM
well I went and looked and I got most of it figured out. Why do the wheels stick out. I doesn't look like they changed anything.

8.1GASSER
11-01-2004, 09:42 AM
They stick out due to the new spindle, combined with the backspacing of your wheels. Typically aftermarket wheel even stick out on a stock truck..unless the backspacing is close to stock.


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Jeli
11-01-2004, 05:20 PM
Thats the beauty of H2's for those of us not going with a suspension lift. Big tire for little effort. My left tire rubs on the back of the UCA a tad. Just enough to remove the paint. Incidentially the same thing happens on H2's. I believe they use our HD control arms.

Whiz-bang
11-01-2004, 07:27 PM
Don't no if this helps but I just put a 6 inch fabtech lift on with H2 wheels and tires and it has no problem with the backspacing. The bigger the wheel the more BS you can run. The reason I went with Fabtech versus RCD is that the kit is virtually the same except RCD is 5.5 inches versus 6 with fabtech.

Big Angry
11-01-2004, 11:12 PM
Don't no if this helps but I just put a 6 inch fabtech
lift on with H2 wheels and tires and it has no problem with the
backspacing. The bigger the wheel the more BS you can run.
The reason I went with Fabtech versus RCD is that the kit is virtually
the same except RCD is 5.5 inches versus 6 with fabtech.



Hmmm... interesting. whiz-bang, do you have any pics of your truck with
it's current setup? I am still up in the air over wether or not I am
going to lift mine and would like to see some pics, especially with the
H2s.