According to
http://www.jdpa.com/businessservices/automotive/publicat ions/powerreport/sample/200407/0704_dieselp.htm
, the GMC Duramax had 69% fewer problems than the Chevy Duramax.



Interesting graphs, but the stupid link button dosent work.....

Ill Second That

Maybe there are less GMC's than Chevy'shttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

Mines been great............http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif





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Mine too..........

arnt they both basically the same cept for the looks?

I recall someone on this forum said that GM chooses the best parts to build GMCs and the leftovers for Chevy'shttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif.

Ive always heard something like that also.



An injector replacement poll may be in order.

GM would probaly quit making GMC's but there are to many diehard GMC owners that believe the GMC is better than the Chev. Have had both and I don't see any diffrences othe than a few cosmetic differences. My dad was forman and later superintendent of the Chev/GMC pick up truck line at Yellow Truck and Coach in Pontiac, Mich. when that was the only place they were built. In 1945 I worked on that line when they retooled from making military trucks to making civvy stuff again . Was under age and quit in late 45 and went into the service in 46 at age 17. I don't remember any majow differences in the trucks then either.

Its true....there is no difference other than cosmetic and some optoins that are not available from one side (chevy) to the other (GMC). They all come off the same assembly lines, and the "build sheet" that accompanies the frame through the "mill' determines whether it is to be a Chevy or a GMC.


However.....Service after the sale is much better with GMC's than what you get from the Chevy Super Store. This means, fewer breakdowns and returns because the shops tend to do it right the first time. This, is what JD Power & Asc. uses to get their numbers. Cost over the period of ownership and consumer satisfaction with the overall priduct (includes the sales experience and service satisfaction).


In my experience, GMC shops have always maintained my trucks much better than the Chevy dealerships. That was also true of my last three chevy's.


Radio Flyer

hahahaha



Just got my truck outa the shop for 19 different issues. They only fixed 13 so back it goes again.



It was in for 2 weeks.



And I own a GMC

PC, what didn't they get fixed? Having it for 2 weeks, one would have thought they could have gotten everyting fixed.

GMCs get all the good metal and Chevy gets the salvage panels.





JK http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif





On a more serious note of all eight D/A I've owned none have needed any service (kept for <10,000 miles tho).





I wonder if the JD Power poll has anything to do w/ the GMC looking SOOOO much better than the Chevy, the owners covet them more http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif

GMCs get all the good metal and Chevy gets the salvage panels.





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LOL... they probably do get the salvage panels..... which would explain the avalanche look

GMC trucks look better and they are more aerodynamic than the Bowtie models. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif

Could be me, but percentage wise, there seems to be alot more burnt out running lights on the Chevrolets.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley24.gif

My truck has over 40,000 miles with nary a problem. It's one of those genetic things. I understand there isn't a whole lot of genetic difference between us and scab mites, for instance. Yet, few as they are those differences make a huge, well, difference. Maybe it's like that between Chevy and GMC. Most of the genes are the same, but the ones that really count are in the GMCs.

Or maybe not....

TC

GMC better? I want some of what you guys are smokin'



Really don't believe any of it. Techs are trained in the same place, are they not?



Round here (I think) I see more Chevs on the road. Maybe....maybe not.



You love a GMC, you love a Chev aswell. 'cept for the hood and grill. Rest is pretty well the same.



Love to hear all you GMC types complimenting my truck. Lets all feel the love here.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif

Look closely, the GMC in thedieselplace logo at the top. It shows the GMC just a little larger than the bowtie...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif

All I know is that if I have a problem with my Chevy while traveling, there is more than likely a Chevrolet dealer a lot closer than the nearest GMC dealer, as they will not work on the other brand......which I think is major BS anyway.

With Gmc you have Truck Mechanics. With Chevy you get Chevette and Geo Mechanics

I have owned both Chevy and GMC and I think I will stick with GMC from now on. Better looks, and I can say I have had less problems with this truck...

I have a 01 GMC Yukon XL 1/2 ton that has 95000 miles on it, still drives like new and has been a joy to own.


I just bought (like 2 days ago...) an 01 Chevy Silverado D/A 3/4 ton, so I'll have these two cousins in the same family. Gotta say, these trucks are pretty damn nice. Blows my F-250 away for comfort, which is what I need.


Bragging: I looked for 3 months for a used 01 or 02 Duramax truck (Chevy, GMC--it didn't matter) with a crew cab and less than 100k miles. Couldn't find one for less than 28k, and they were pretty roughed up. Then, last Sunday, I saw an ad in the paper that seemed too good to be true. Get this: 01 2500HD diesel crew cab long box for $20,000. Not a bad price, but it was the mileage that caught my eye: 15,000 original miles. I brought the check with me for the test drive. Done deal.


Man, I really love this truck.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif


Great site, by the way. At this point I'm a diesel newbie and need your help and wisdom. You're keeping me up late at night these days!


Rip

It's probably due to the business part. Have you noticed that a business will buy a "BASE" Chevy and in turn the boss will have a GMC for himself? I think both trucks are the same......... the chevy's just get the &hit beat out of'em. Nobody respects the "base model" truck, no matter what it is. However, if it's equiped fairly nice, they seem to take care of it. I see far far more nice GMC's than I do Chevy's.





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Burner
I am the boss and I drive a Chevy. It aint no stinkin base model, by the way. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif I refuse to have a half ass Aztec mechanic touch my Duramax. Eric is going to kick my butt now, but good. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif

mike http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

GMC guys have to hype their trucks up. Chev guy says what he drives. Enough said.





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I thought they both came off the same assembly line? Later! Frank

Check the numbers...


Yes there are fewer GMC's than Chevy's, but I'll bet that the ratio between problems and no problems are the same with both.


Somthin to think about


Bill

I bet they make more base model chevy's than GMC's........... what'da bet? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif





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Burner
I am the boss and I drive a Chevy. It aint no stinkin base model, by the way. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif I refuse to have a half ass Aztec mechanic touch my Duramax. Eric is going to kick my butt now, but good. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif

mike http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif Apparently you aint seen my arse lately, its full sizehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

I would've bought a GMC but I couldn't justify the $2500 extra for the razzle dazzle. Plus I would've had to go to a Buick dealer to get one. I'm a Chevy man!

Let the GMC guys talk. They have to be boastful, they know they are second fiddle in the GM family. Chevy is the largest selling brand, by far, in GMs stable!


Of course the GMC is a little larger than the Chevy in the dieselpage logo. It has to support the unsubstantiated egos of the GMC owners!!! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif


In the late 70's I would see GMCs unloading off of the carrier with Chevy tailgates and vise versa.


Ok, said my part...let the flaming begin!!!


MaxRock

I say, We're all one big happy family.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif

I thought they both came off the same assembly line? Later! Frank


Sort of, the GMCs are only made from 12:30 til 14:30 Tuesday thru Thursday by the best assemblers after they have a fine catered lunch.


The Chevys are made the rest of the time by who ever shows up.











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JK slow day at the fender factory http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif


I have to keep stirring the pot.


Besides the BEST mechanic works on the BEST truck, thanks ERIC http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif

I love them both. I don't see why the hell you would pay more for a GMC and not get it fully loaded!!! I mean for the price you pay for a base GMC you could get a loaded Chevy. That's why you see nicer GMC's.

When you price both trucks compare the features. I used to think the GMCs were more too, but a base GMC come with more standard equipment than a base Chevy. If you put all the stuff on a base Chevy to even it up with a base GMC, it comes out to the same. At the top end the both have the same stuff and cost the same.


Ox

If what Tim says is true.... then after the finely catered lunch, the
GMC guys nod off. Don't do a very good job of assembly. Not
surprised.















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Edited by: Max Owner

That's the jist of it-what Ox said.

With Gmc you have Truck Mechanics. With Chevy you get Chevette and Geo Mechanics


Not so..the local chevy dealer here has a class A gm dieseltech that did a great job on mine recentlyhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gifEdited by: bob camire

I thought they both came off the same assembly line? Later! Frank


Sort of, the GMCs are only made from 12:30 til 14:30 Tuesday thru Thursday by the best assemblers after they have a fine catered lunch.


The Chevys are made the rest of the time by who ever shows up.


yeah..right...if you think human hands are building thee things, youve got to be kidding...no more mondays or fridays..ROBOTS dont know the differencehttp://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif








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JK slow day at the fender factory http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif


I have to keep stirring the pot.


Besides the BEST mechanic works on the BEST truck, thanks ERIC http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif

my brother bought a gmc six months before i bought my chevy...we have both had to fix our trucks..his..the tranny clunk fixed..mine..the 4wd crapped out...his ..the front bumper replace cuz it rusted already...mine, the ac stunk...got it coolled down...his..the right mirror replaced..was a visability issue...mine..had to have it aligned..got bumped in transit...his..vibes from the exhaust system...


so the bottom line is ..they all need to be fixed..lol bc http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley18.gif

With my wise cracks aside......



Whatever you say about one, you say about the other. So if a Silverado is crrrap. Than so is a Sierra.



Now. What about Dodge and Fhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley35.gifd.....?

A Duramax by any other name is still a Duramax?

I think this is just a plain "Per Capita" issue. There are more Silverado's on the road than Sierra's. Same with a Bens. More of them on the road now then befor and more of them in the shop.


I don't quit think it is a loyalty issue either. I have heard that GMC owners have a more brand loyalty than others. I know I do but that is just becuase I don't waist away 40 grand and I have seen Silverado owners take very good care of their trucks just the same.


In the past I believe GMC was held to a higher standard with in the company but today they are one in the same. Same factory just a different badge.

I opted for Chevrolet over GMC simply because the Chev. dealer has a very good service dept while the GMC dealer is severely lacking in that department. Only difference I see between the two vehicles is the name and some sheet metal. They both come off the line at Flint if I'm not mistaken.

Well about the dealers service department, my local GM dealer handles both Chevy & GMC. So it Will be hard for me to tell about the service Chevy vs GMC. By the way 2 of my sons drive GMC gassers. I do like the looks of the GMC front sheet metal over the Chevy.

The GMC sure looks better.


I take information given to me via statistics with a grain of salt. You can almost twist them to say anything.

In '01/'02 the Chevy looked better. '03 and newer the GMC is the better looking truck. Just my opinion.Edited by: Dmaxcan

I like the '05 with the bulge back in the hood. Gives it a tougher look that seperates it from the 1/2 tons and SUVs


MaxRock

Who would want a Generic Made Chevy, when you can have the real deal?


J/k

Who would want a Generic Made Chevy, when you can have the real deal?


J/k





OOOHHH, that hurts.

in my opinion, statistics are like polls for the politicians...dont mean


S**T http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

All I know is my truck is better than your truck........http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif


My Dad can beat up your Dad.......http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif


I'm gonna go and tell my Mom...........http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif


You guys are so mean............http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif





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BTW.......GMC's are still better.............http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif

Tony; thanx for the compliment on my Silverado. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif





















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