What's a good set of speakers to replace the factory ones. I never blast the radio, but the one in the PS door is starting to sound like crap. I think there is one 6.5" speaker in each door. I want to replace all four but I will not be upgrading the factory head unit.Edited by: mtomac

I am not going to suggest which brand / model to get since that will depend on how much you want to spend. I will say watch the mounting depth for those speakers. I know that some of the 6.5" speakers are too deep and will not let you windows go all the way down. Then again if you do run into this problem, you can shim it out from the door and get around the problem.

I run a set of Phonix Gold component. I run them off an aftermarket deck, but you could run them off the stock deck too, you just wouldn't have quite as good quality sound. It doesn't sound like you're TOO worried about that though. You will just be slightly underpowered, but the speakers sound very clear. Be prepared for some $$$ though. Just my opinion

In this case, I would go see what they have at Wal Mart. They usually
have some good pioneers in stock that will sound good off the
factory HU. I've installed several for friends over the years with no
problems.


Ox

Best advice ,keep it simple. I screwed around with Component speakers and fancy head units loaded with features,blah blah blah. Settled on a Clarion unit.


And


Buy some JBL Coaxial and call it a day.I run them front and back in my EXT cab sounds real good,IMO.Will be a major difference over stock that is for sure.





Mac

Phoenix Gold Titanium 6 comps all the way.. they sound sweet..

"Phoenix Gold Titanium 6 comps all the way.. they sound sweet.."


Hey, now there's a man that thinks like me !!!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif Edited by: Zorganov

If you're not going to upgrade the headunit you probably won't be putting in a higher power amp for the speakers so save your money and get some lower end pioneers or kenwoods. More expensive speakers generally take more power to run and would just not match up well with your system.

For speakers, high's at least, MBQuart are my choice. You can mix it up
for the lows. Anything like Pioneer/JBL, etc. should do the trick

Thanks for the advice guys. How deep of a speaker can I use in the doors without shimming? Also, who makes the lightest speakers, I don't want to add too much weight. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif

mtomac is the only guy I know who watches what he eats to keep his race weight down. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif j/k http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif Edited by: Max Power

Well if you want to spend some serious cash on sound then go with Rainbow Separates.. You will spend about $1000 per door but you will have awesome sound.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif If you want to save the bank then you can run Diamond Audio or DynAudio... Those 3 are the top of the line in the audio industry and then JBL, MBQuart on down... Good luck...

If you're not going to upgrade the headunit you probably won't be putting in a higher power amp for the speakers so save your money and get some lower end pioneers or kenwoods. More expensive speakers generally take more power to run and would just not match up well with your system.

Can those of us with the Bose systems just replace
only the speakers too? I could've swore I
read somewhere that the Bose speakers were an
odd-ball ohm rating. I would think that since
most aftermarket speakers are 4 (or 2) ohms,
this would be a problem (if the Bose amps are
not also rated for 4 (or 2) ohm loads)

Thanks for any insight,

T.

Can those of us with the Bose systems just replace
only the speakers too? I could've swore I
read somewhere that the Bose speakers were an
odd-ball ohm rating. I would think that since
most aftermarket speakers are 4 (or 2) ohms,
this would be a problem (if the Bose amps are
not also rated for 4 (or 2) ohm loads)

Thanks for any insight,

T.

I don't know enough about the bose system to tell you what will work but. If your bose amp is pushing 2ohm speakers then it will also run a 4ohm speaker. You will probably lose power though as any amp that I've seen always produces more watts at 2ohm than 4ohm. now if your bose speakers are 4ohm I wouldn't get a set of 2ohm speakers for them. Maybe someone here knows more about this system?

Mike if you're looking for light weigh and good sound, go with Kenwood Excelon dual mags, they sound great and are the lightest speakers I've ever seen....


As someone else said, it's important to match the speaker to the power. If you're running off the stock HU, stick with lower end low power speakers. If you run high power speakers without high power it will sound like crap and damage the speakers.


The Pose front speakers are 2 ohm but can be replaced with 4 ohm speakers with no ill effects. They just won't get as much power.


IMO it's a waste of time and money to replace parts of the Pose system. It may say Bose on it and yes Bose designed part of it, but this is a case of paying for the name. It's an over priced Delco radio that really hasn't changed much over the last 20 years electronically. Someone that knows what they are doing could go to Wal Mart and get all they need to put the Bose to shame.


Ox

I'd be careful...I put some aftermarket pioneers (from walmart) in the doors of my 2000 and they sounded a lot worse than the factory ones. I guess the factory head unit just didn't have the power to push them.


If I were you I'd probably find someone around here with some old factory speakers and try to buy them for cheap.


Just my experience....

I think for the best SQ you'd like to go w/ a Clario Touch Screen w/ the 7in Flip Out monitor...Polk Momo Components...4 Kicker Solobaric L7 12's...2 Matts 1000watt amps and a 300watt Kicker amp for your highs then maybe a few tv's for various places like the headrest and Sun Visors...then you'd be big pimpin....








LOL...j/p

A good web site to go to is "Crutchfield (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-VbU6ruPqRpY/)"
. They deal in auto and home entertainment. You can search
for speakers, head units, and amps based on the model/year of your
vehicle and they will give you a list of what fits your vehicle
including the dimensions. I use it as a research tool to see what
fits and then go find the cheapest place for those speakers I
like. Good luck in your search.

OX ,Ouch. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif But your so right I've heard the Bose system in GM's trucks and it is a pile. Sounds like a humped up dog!


I wouldn't take as an option although it's most likely part of a trim package.





Mac

Yep, I got stuck with cOnStar and Pose audio to get the caddy seats...I got a pile of bose in my garage...





Ox

How deep of a 6.5" speaker will fit in the front & rear doors?

Under the grill on the door, it looks like the tweeter is seperate on the stock speakers. Should I get component speakers with a seperate tweater or get regular speakers with built in tweeters and leave the factory tweater hole empty?

<span ="bold">BlueOx03

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As someone else said, it's important to match the speaker to the
power. If you're running off the stock HU, stick with lower end low
power speakers. If you run high power speakers without high power it
will sound like crap and damage the speakers.



The Pose front speakers are 2 ohm but can be replaced with 4 ohm
speakers with no ill effects. They just won't get as much power.




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Speakers DO NOT produce any power, therefore there are no low or
high power speakers existing, thats just a marketing hype! Speakers
consume the power delivered from the amplifier and convert that power
into heat and mechanical energy (sound). The amount of sound the
speaker will produce depends on its construction - big, heavy and very
sensitive magnets produce a higher sound pressure level than cheap
lightweight small magnet speakers. Low power amps (like the standard
BOSE system) will destroy speakers because of clipping (output of
square waves not sinus waves). The power handling of the speaker
(when the voice coil is melting / leaves the homogenious magnetic
field....) depends on the materials used. Cheap speakers burn up easily
comparable to high end speakers with big magnets and voice coils...

The best advice to buy speakers is to listen to them first and buy the
ones which sound best and are affordable. Some people like the dull
(BOSE) sound, some like high thin sound etc. Natural sound costs little
money, carefull installation (door boards, insulation in doors...) is
just as important. Good speakers can be matched to the HU installed in
our trucks, they won't sound bad! To upgrade from that extra power amps
can be installed etc...possibilities are endless...

mtomac is the only guy I know who watches what he eats to keep his race weight down. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif j/k http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif


When we were at Muncie Mike only had a snack for lunch on race day http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif


If he is really worried about weight yank all the radio crap out and put a portable ghetto blaster in http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif


Mike is pulling/racing season done?

According to Cruchfield, the speakes in my 2004 ext cab are 6&amp;3/4" in Dia. Not 6.5"..


I'm looking for speakes too, Tiered of having my speakers replaced under warrenty, after my Daughter borrows the truck.


She has destroyed two speakers so far..

&lt;span ="bold"&gt;BlueOx03
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As someone else said, it's important to match the speaker to the
power. If you're running off the stock HU, stick with lower end low
power speakers. If you run high power speakers without high power
it
will sound like crap and damage the speakers.



The Pose front speakers are 2 ohm but can be replaced with 4
ohm
speakers with no ill effects. They just won't get as much power.



................................................



Speakers DO NOT produce any power, therefore there are no low
or
high power speakers existing, thats just a marketing hype! Speakers
consume the power delivered from the amplifier and convert that
power
into heat and mechanical energy (sound). The amount of sound the
speaker will produce depends on its construction - big, heavy and
very
sensitive magnets produce a higher sound pressure level than cheap
lightweight small magnet speakers. Low power amps (like the
standard
BOSE system) will destroy speakers because of clipping (output of
square waves not* sinus waves). The power handling of the speaker
(when the voice coil is melting / leaves the homogenious magnetic
field....) depends on the materials used. Cheap speakers burn up
easily
comparable to high end speakers with big magnets and voice coils...
The best advice to buy speakers is to listen to them first and buy the
ones which sound best and are affordable. Some people like the dull
(BOSE) sound, some like high thin sound etc. Natural sound costs
little
money, carefull installation (door boards, insulation in doors...) is
just as important. Good speakers can be matched to the HU installed
in
our trucks, they won't sound bad! To upgrade from that extra power
amps
can be installed etc...possibilities are endless...








Way to go! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif You just said the same thing I did, just a nuked out
version. I was saying it is best to match low power with low power.
By a low power speaker, I mean one that handles low power, not
produces it. If you think I meant speakers make power you're a
jackass. There are speakers that handle more power than others.
Most people I know would refer to speakers that handle low power
as 'low power' speakers. The same people would refer to speakers
that handle high power as 'high power' speakers. there's a tendency
that speakers that handle more power, tend to cost more money.
Does this mean that all less pricey speakers are crap? No, it just
means you can't run tons of power to them or crank them up all the
time. That's were matching the speaker to the system comes into
play. Yes the pose system will clip a set of high power handling
speakers to death, duh. That's why I said stick with lower power
speakers if you're sticking with the stock HU. Later I said you could
replace the front speakers in the pose system, it's stock, I still meant
low power speakers. Next time I put up a simple post about
speakers I'll make sure to PM you a version you understand. Oh and
if you think big magnets=better speakers, you're the one that
believes in marketing hype.

Ox http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif

Guy's, the low/high power ratings on the speakers, is the power they can handle, not generate. Power Apmlifiers can deliver a lot of AMP's(Current) into a 2 or 4 ohm impeadance. If the speaker can't handle it, you smoke the voice coil or Break the bondings. Higher power speakers also have stiffer cone material to aide recovery, so running them on low power systems results in disappointing (sound) performance. Best results is obtained in matching the speakers to the installed system. oem = walmart http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif

Guy's, the low/high power ratings on the
speakers, is the power they can handle, not generate.* Power
Apmlifiers can deliver a lot of AMP's(Current) into a 2 or 4 ohm
impeadance. If the speaker can't handle it, you smoke the voice coil
or Break the bondings. Higher power speakers also have stiffer cone
material to aide recovery, so running them on low power systems
results in disappointing (sound) performance.** Best results is
obtained in matching the speakers to the installed system. oem =
walmart* http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif

Yet again, what I said in the first place....

Next...

Ox http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif

Ox,


I've seen on other posts that you'll help out those of us who are truck audio challenged. How about some help?


I have an '04.5 ext cab LS (bench seat, not bucket &amp; no centre console) with the storage box under the rear seat. I want to keep the OEM head unit (non-bose), but replace the speakers &amp; install an 8" or 10" with amp. What do you suggest.


Oh and I want to keep at least some of my storage box capacity for storage.


Ultimate goal for the head unit is to upgrade to the OEM touch-screen nav unit.


Thanks,


Gruffid

WHile your on the subject of stereos, i have a ppi amp in classified section for sale. Also have all the factory non-Bose stereo speakers for sale if anyone would happen to need them.

I prefer 2 cups and a string.

OK, I bought a pair of middle of the road 6.5 co-ax full range speakers for my doors but am wondering how to deal with the tweater (extra wires). If I just cut the tweeters and wire up the new speakers in place of the stock mid range would I get the full frequency out of the speaker or is there a crossover that will limit their range. Or, should I combine both wires from the original two speakers.

Thanks.

You got it, The crossover on the stockers is shrink-wrapped inline to the tweets. Just pull the old ones, cut the plug and solder up the wires to the new ones....

Ox

PC-I find tin cans and bow string are a great upgrade from cups and standard string...

Ox

I put in the Pioneer Quad axials (3 tweeters one midrange) and did not tamper with the separate tweeter lines. IIFC the Tweeter lines are not 'separates' ie there is no cross over that separates the frequencies. I love the new Pioneers, I got them @ Best Buy. They were about $125 for the pair.

OK now I read this whole topic and you all have me bummed. My truck is scheduled to be built the week of Dec. 6 I was so concerned with the equipment of my new truck that it sounds like I made a very grave assumption; i.e. Bose/GMC oem whould be a least a very good sound system. Damn. Are they that bad?! Its been 30 years since I had a new truck and I really did not want to have to upgrade so soon or at all. 30 years hell I feel old now probably cant hear them anyways):h I guess I'll find out for myself in a few more weeks ok probably a few more months. or whenever the pack mules drag my new baby to so. cal.:cool:

Wife has the Bose in an '03 Tahoe...sounds good, and I have no complaints. My truck came with the stock radio, and it was out 30 days later. I like the Alpine stuff.

blueox03-My truck was driven 200 miles from denver to here before I bought it, PS speaker has sounded blown since I bought it. Haven't replaced under warranty because I plan to put something else in there anyway. Problem is without pulling the door panel I can't tell if it is the little tweeter or the 6.5.. It crackles on the highs, but then it doesn't get many lows anyway as I run all the bass to the sub so the stockers won't distort as much...Anyway I was thinking I would get pioneer speakers to match my stereo, my brother has some and they sound good. Take a lot more power and bass than the stocks. So I should do like you told caswell and combine the wires and toss the little tweeters if they are blown? I can't find a replacement for them anyway.

Bruce, if the system is anything like the Bose system in my '04 Denali XL, it is not all that bad. Yeah, your not going to shake the rear view mirror of the car next to you at a stoplight, and your not going to love the harsh highs of the Audax hard dome tweets in the A-Pillars, but the integration with the wheel controls, On-Star, yada-yada isn't too bad. Plus, nobody is going to steal the stock stuff!

I am a bit bummed that the satelite service is XM and not Sirius. I know the whole GM/Hughes relationship... But I will be putting in a Sirius tuner and SoundGate interface by 01/06 in prep for the move of the King of All Media. :ro)

My CC LB SLT is being built the week of 12/13, with a delivery date of ~1/6. ):h