Well the new GMC commercial pretty much describes how I use my trucks!


The mud I sometimes see is 2-3' deep. Sometimes the mud is so crazy I gotta have a Massey tractor with over 225 Hp and 10' tires pull me out.


Only differences would be 12-18000lb trailer hooked up to the truck pulling through 3 foot deep mud.


Thats why I got a 15000lb winch and carry over 50' grade 80 chain, 30'X4" tow strap, 10'X4" tree saver strap, Snatch block, multiple clevis shackles, and more. All equipment rated for over 24000lb usage!


I should make the new GMC commercials. Maybe they could follow me around with a camera crewhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif

Show us a sample. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif

Only differences would be 12-18000lb trailer hooked up to the truck pulling through 3 foot deep mud.








You will not pull any trailer like that through 3 feet of mud
with a P/U no matter how equipped, you are stretching it here BIG
TIME. Years ago I saw a 3/4 ton pick frame badly bent from towing
it out of a field with a grain trailer attached to it and pulled out
(with relative ease) by a 90 HP tractor (JD 4020). It was a fifthwheel
goose neck and it bent the neck a bit and bent the track frame a lot
where hitch attached. Trailer had gotten stuck and wieght was about 18
to 20K and after it was all sorted out and repaired they limited
trailer to about 12 to 14 k for soft field work. (My wife grew up on a farm)

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Edited by: snoman

Fingers....Hard to take pics at 3000rpms with mud flying and only one shot to get where you wanna go....I'll try to figure out how to mount camera. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif


Snowman...your are correct....I spend 2 months at the end of the season fixing stuff and 2 months before the season gettin my equipment ready.


This summer I bent my fisher plow mount on the 2003 because I had a clevis hook in the mount (useing it as a tow hook). Luckily it only moved about a cm. I also broke the trailer hitch on my 20' trailer...had to weld on a new one.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif

This summer I bent my fisher plow mount on the
2003 because I had a clevis hook in the mount (useing it as a tow
hook). Luckily it only moved about a cm. I also broke the
trailer hitch on my 20' trailer...had to weld on a new one.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif







You should make/fab a tow bar the will attach to both front mounts
on truck. I would if I has in your situtation. (I use Fisher plows too)


Edited by: snoman

I personally like the new commercials myself, seems to show the ability of our trucks... Makes me like owning one...

I personally like the new commercials myself, seems to show the ability of our trucks... Makes me like owning one...

That is the whole purpose of the commercail. They do a lot of research on this stuff to see what "grabs" people best

I can vouch for how dirty Gg's truck can get! If I'm not mistakin', his truck recently picked up a rather prestigious prize in the Dirtiest Truck Event. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif

Ad hype.

Got Mud?


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/Gradyghost/2004-10-19_013150_casemud.jpg

Seeing that tractor brings back some memories........ International Harvester, the 1st Cotton. Case, the first high pressure hydraulic systems.


Funny how those silly things seem to stick?





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Hey Gradyghost,



You cleaned your truck!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif



Dennis

Gradyghost; I dunno....... truck and trailer look pretty clean. Can't see any mud on the trailer......http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif

2-3' of mud?? Heck my 01 HD got stuck on a lake bed. How do you guys manage to get through more than a foot of mud?? Truck floated on the front end and couldn't get any traction.


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/4x4man/2004-10-19_131329_truckstuck.JPG


The wife and I laugh at that new commercial...no f'ing way... there is probably concrete at the bottom for traction or somethin.

Max Owner... I didn't take that picture...That picture is actually a pre mud picture. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif He was actually pulling me INTO the mud to the place where my equipment was. I wish I had better pictures that shows it all! Maybe next year I will hire a camera man to take action shots. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif

4X4Man; kinda neat. Where was that taken?



I was ashamed of my truck getting stuck in soggy grass. Only sank
a few inches, but....... Had to get the inlaws neighbour to pull
the truck out, the trailer out, then the truck and trailer out.
With an International tractor.



Heavy Duty 4X4. HMPH!



Gradyghost......you done playing in the mud for the season?



These trucks are so heavy that unless you have wide tires on (my opinion) you ah go ah nowhere, in mud.

Yea Maxowner....Now I get to play in the snow!


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/Gradyghost/2004-10-19_175833_1000ftdrivway2.jpg

Hope thats a picture from last year.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif



Either that or you're getting an early start in PA.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif

Maxowner, pic was taken up at Blue Mesa Lake outside of Gunnison Colorado. I thought it would be neat to have a pic of my truck on the lake bed where we would normally be wakeboarding. Lake was nearly 80 feet down in 02. Cost me $450 to get out of that jam...two jeeps air'd their tires down and winched me out. Here's some more pics of the fun....


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/4x4man/2004-10-20_052332_truckstuck2.JPG


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/4x4man/2004-10-20_052355_truckstuck3.JPG


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/4x4man/2004-10-20_052414_truckstuck4.JPG

Maxowner, pic was taken up at Blue Mesa Lake outside
of Gunnison Colorado. I thought it would be neat to have a pic of
my truck on the lake bed where we would normally be wakeboarding.
Lake was nearly 80 feet down in 02. Cost me $450 to get out of
that jam...two jeeps air'd their tires down and winched me out.
Here's some more pics of the fun....



So your saying the jeep guys charged you? Unless you call a professional tow service people charging for pull outs http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif me off, never charged anyone even if they were idiots about it.



With the tires and power these things have I'd be afraid of 4wheeling my dmax right now, much better tires would be a must.

4X4Man; looks like you did alot of digging....

Yes, the jeep guys charged me. I had been digging for nearly 8 hours. I knew all those guys were taking advantage of us, but we had no other choice. The ranger was pretty cool when she came to visit after about 3 hours of digging, she told us we had 24 hours to get the truck out before she would be forced to give us a ticket. Oh well, learned my lesson, these trucks are not offroaders (in stock form) certainly not like that commercial protrays... http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley18.gif

Commercials are made under controlled conditions. In the commercial it is light mud, with lots of water added

Zactly....

What !!


You guys don't think the duramax goes through mud?


I disagree. I have taken mine through some crazy mud. Sometimes my trailers will sit in mud for 3 days on a jobsite then I gotta go and get em. SO I drive through the mud to get to them then back up and hook em up!


The fun begins when the trailer is hooked up then the duramax goes no where unless I drive it hard.


Loaded like a freight train


Flyin Like an Airplane! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif

Prove it. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gifPost a video clip.







Diesels don't do mud. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif

you guys aint got nothing on mud lol


http://www.rankmyride.com/data//4/2/11959//.large/stuck.jpg


http://www.rankmyride.com/data//4/2/11959//.large/0962998r10229a.jpg

Prove it. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gifPost a video clip.



Diesels don't do mud. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif



Got nothing to prove to you!!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif


My trucks are work trucks!


I already posted pics of my trucks, one of my trailers, a picture of my plow in snow, picture of my truck and trailer (19000lbs gross) going INTO the mud.....I got nothing to prove to you! I know what they do...My crew knows what the diesels can do...blah blah blah!!!


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and have a nice day....

you'll be suprised how much mud these trucks can go thru with some momentum, good tires and ElockerEdited by: mtomac

One night i was pissed and i took my 2wd dually threw some serious chit...but them front ends just bog down from all the weight....but i love pullin 4th gear in the sugar sand,lol.....


Is it wise to mud in a 01 or newer D/A 4x4 maybe w/ some 900's or Q's?

M.O. doesn't know how to drive if he cannot handle the mud, it is not the motor. It is the momentum and trail sense, most accomplished off-road motorcycle riders know this sense, eh. Take off you hoser!

How will momentum help you, when you are maneuvering around? Where I got stuck, started out as soft grass.



???



P.S. The over all weight of the truck is a factor, I beleive for
the conditions I was in. Too heavy for size of tires. My
old truck was lighter and had bigger tires on it, in the same (pretty
well) conditions.


Edited by: Max Owner

i must say i have been in the mud a few times with my d-max. to say how deep it was i cant but lets put it this way. i was asked to jump start a truck at a local mud run. i agreed knowing that i would probly get stuck. i wasnt in the accual hole i was in the one right after where they show off.


when i pulled in my front end went down i instantly needed 4wd. i pulled right put the the burban and opend my door. the mud was 4 inchs from the door. this is not water.i left my door open. after we got the burban going the mud was at the door. the truck sunk 4 inchs with in 5 min.


i still got stock tires.


after rocking back and forth for a few minutes it finally poped out of the whole and i finished going threw the mud.


i was just as shocked as the hand full of people watching me that i got out.


i think these trucks do very well in the mud considering their disadvantages.

Yes, the jeep guys charged me. I had been digging for nearly 8 hours. I knew all those guys were taking advantage of us, but we had no other choice. The ranger was pretty cool when she came to visit after about 3 hours of digging, she told us we had 24 hours to get the truck out before she would be forced to give us a ticket. Oh well, learned my lesson, these trucks are not offroaders (in stock form) certainly not like that commercial protrays... http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley18.gif





I can't get over the fact they charged you....and on top of that the amount they charged you.

When mine got stuck; the "divots" were only about 2-3" deep. Couldn't get the truck to move, let alone rocking it.



Terribly embarrassing......http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif



Also had Michelin M/S tires on.

max i think u had a freak accident or some one hooked a chain to your truck with out you knowing about it. 3 inch divots sounds fishy.


i aint calling you a lier you got a good rep on the boards but somethings fishy

Dumb ahttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley35.gif luck, I guess. Soft ground. Sank. Found mud. She a no go.







I have a rep?http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif





Uh boy.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif

I've only gotten this new truck stuck once in soft plowed ground that wasn't supposed to have water running on it. My track when I pulled the truck out with the 8100 were only about a foot deep because the truck was sitting on the frame and rear end. Other than that I have gotten through some deep mud with it and not had any problems...

I was towing my 4500lb brush chipper into a field to chip some trees. The front axle JUMPED down into the soft ground. Wouldn't move an inch. I called my employee to bring the single cab D/A. I had to unhook the chipper and pull it out backwards, then the truck. The truck is great plowing snow, but the mud in the commercial has to be watered down and on a paved road underneath. The commercial will do wonders for the towing business. GradyGhost must have better mud than I have.

I took mine out in 9" loose dry sand at Fort Fisher in NC and got it buried to the axles. I have the stock all terrain tires on it. In 4 LO it just churned the tires and dug deeper. I finally aired the tires down to about 35 lbs and it creeped right out no problem. But the extreme weight of the truck is a disadvantage in sloppy terrain with such skinny (245's) tires.

I'm considering moving up to 285's but am concerned with the gearing issues.

I was towing my 4500lb brush chipper into a field to chip some trees. The front axle JUMPED down into the soft ground. Wouldn't move an inch. I called my employee to bring the single cab D/A. I had to unhook the chipper and pull it out backwards, then the truck. The truck is great plowing snow, but the mud in the commercial has to be watered down and on a paved road underneath. The commercial will do wonders for the towing business. GradyGhost must have better mud than I have.
Try putting the truck in 4X4 before entering the mud!

Oh Yea the Tenn. mud is better than yours...duh

That is the whole purpose of the commercail. They do a lot of research on this stuff to see what "grabs" people best
In that Case how about a DMX powered monster truck Crushing the sicksliter diesel, then burning a Ford flag in effigy?
:ro)

on the farm i pulled out our 4x4 diesel many times with my 2wd gasser and only once was it the other way around i'd put my blazer up against any stock d-max as for gms commercials there was one filmed on one of my job sites(last year football season truck pulling a little tractor suck in the mud out) we dig a 1' hole put a steel plate in the bottom of it put some dirt on top and flooded it guy drove the tractor into the mud took it out of 4wd and he was stuck(for tv only) hooked the truck up put it back in 4wd and drove out

Not surprised....

Sounds like you need MATTRACKS! Not sure if they fit a dually though...
http://www.mattracks.com/

on the farm i pulled out our 4x4 diesel many times with my 2wd gasser and only once was it the other way around i'd put my blazer up against any stock d-max as for gms commercials there was one filmed on one of my job sites(last year football season truck pulling a little tractor suck in the mud out) we dig a 1' hole put a steel plate in the bottom of it put some dirt on top and flooded it guy drove the tractor into the mud took it out of 4wd and he was stuck(for tv only) hooked the truck up put it back in 4wd and drove outhmmmm....really?

Try putting the truck in 4X4 before entering the mud!

Oh Yea the Tenn. mud is better than yours...duh
I put the truck in 4 wheel drive before I entered the field. The "better mud" comment was sarcasim. I'm sure it would go in the mud with mattracks !!!

Why am I defending Gm...you guys all own Gm's.

Gotta love sarcasim.

Hoot don't....

Hoot don't....
Is hoot in this thread?


I was just addressing all the bozos who says the GMs suck in the mud, that all the GMs commercials are rigged, and the ones who don't know how to use 4X4!
:ro)
ROFL

Is hoot in this thread?


I was just addressing all the bozos who says the GMs suck in the mud, that all the GMs commercials are rigged, and the ones who don't know how to use 4X4!
:ro)
ROFL
Who sayes gms get stuck in the mud? the furd guy are the ones that have to install tailgate warmers on there trucks diesel or not were still waiting for your pics of you dragging the dmax through 3' of mud

Yeah, so I'm a Bozo. Whats your point? ):h

Yeah, so I'm a Bozo. Whats your point? ):h
My point WAS that I like the new commercial. And that I get to USE my trucks in the mud.
But the thread got derailed.
So much for a little bragging and putting my self out on the limb with pictures and a positive post!

just given ya a hard time about the pic i liked (and still do) commerial makes me want to go play in the mud but last time i did i when home early cause the job super didn't like me pulling my blazer out with a D9