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Turbo6600
10-14-2004, 10:15 PM
I just picked my 05' Cab and Chassis and Gm is starting to pi** me off THe redundant steering wheel controls won't let you lock your doors manually you only have two choices now lock in gear or when it reaches certain speed . Does anyone know how I can take this out. Second problem is that if you don't buckle your seat belt the chime keeps dinging even after driving about ten mile . I know before someone say buckle up well that's my choice. Any Help would be great THanks Turbo6600http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif

dwrat
10-15-2004, 01:26 AM
Buckle up, it is common sense.


Some people just don't get it!!!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley35.gif

gottago
10-15-2004, 08:22 AM
Sell it and buy a 1946 Chevy it will do everything you are looking for!!!


BUCKLE UP!!!

skoryaro2
10-15-2004, 08:29 AM
I THe redundant steering wheel controls won't let you
lock your doors manually you only have two choices now lock in gear or
when it reaches certain speed . Does anyone know how I can take this
out.



My '05 doesn't have steering wheel controls but by following the
procedure listed in the owners manual for setting the automatic door
locks manaually (IIRC) there was still an option that lets you set them
to manual. Maybe you just can't do it through the steering
controls????



P.S. I won't mention the beltshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif

TPBGMC
10-15-2004, 10:08 AM
My '05 doesn't have steering wheel controls but by following the procedure listed in the owners manual for setting the automatic door locks manaually (IIRC) there was still an option that lets you set them to manual. Maybe you just can't do it through the steering controls????







Are you sure? I was irritated by the auto door locks also, & was reviewing the manual for my 2005 GMC and it only lists two options for the door locks - lock when in gear or lock at 8 mph. There was no auto door lock disable. If your manual lists how to do this, please quote the page number & describe how to do it. Thanks!


Todd

jetboatjockey
10-15-2004, 10:21 AM
turbo 6600, if we had any sense at all no one would farm then the rats and sharks of this world would be so busy looking for food they would keep criticisms to theirselves. i gota a big mouth but i like the way you think. i took a 77 chev male belt hook remodeled with ye old grinder shoved it in the 05 female belt receiver, wala no more chime ever.


nelson


o5 chev edge/attitude

skoryaro2
10-15-2004, 11:00 AM
My '05 doesn't have
steering wheel controls but by following the procedure listed in the
owners manual for setting the automatic door locks manaually (IIRC)
there was still an option that lets you set them to manual. Maybe
you just can't do it through the steering controls????







Are you sure? I was irritated by the auto door locks also,
& was reviewing the manual for my 2005 GMC and it only lists
two options for the door locks - lock when in gear or lock at 8
mph. There was no auto door lock disable. If your
manual lists how to do this, please quote the page number &
describe how to do it. Thanks!


Todd

MY BAD!!! My apologies!! Checked my manual &
you're right. No disable option. Must have got it mixed up with
the Mrs. '01 Yukon. I reprogrammed both vehicles locks when I got
my truck a few weeks ago.

skoryaro2
10-15-2004, 11:06 AM
My '05 doesn't have
steering wheel controls but by following the procedure listed in the
owners manual for setting the automatic door locks manaually (IIRC)
there was still an option that lets you set them to manual. Maybe
you just can't do it through the steering controls????







Are you sure? I was irritated by the auto door locks also,
& was reviewing the manual for my 2005 GMC and it only lists
two options for the door locks - lock when in gear or lock at 8
mph. There was no auto door lock disable. If your
manual lists how to do this, please quote the page number &
describe how to do it. Thanks!


Todd

My bad!!! My apologies. Checked my manual and there is no
disable option. Must have got it mixed up with the Mrs. '01 Yukon
as I reprogrammed her locks when I was doing my new truck.



Sorry and thanks for checking up on mehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley18.gif

coyotekid
10-15-2004, 02:40 PM
Maybe if you'd seen seat belts save both my mom and sister in two separate accidents, you'd have more respect for seat belts.


I know I do.

jetboatjockey
10-15-2004, 03:25 PM
kid, never said they was a bad idea, personel freedom is worth dying for. i do not need the govt taking care of me. i just answering 6600s question on quieting the chime.


some people would outlaw blondes and guns, dangerous as h....


oh well omo.


nelson

coyotekid
10-15-2004, 04:14 PM
Yeah, I see what you're saying. I like to be able to make my own choices as well.


I guess I've never heard the chime in mine cause I always have my seat belt on! It's funny because a lot of people forget to wear theirs, but some of my buddy's give me a bad time cause I'll put mine on just to pull it into the garage or something! It's so automatic that I don't even realize I'm putting a seat belt on.

hoot
10-15-2004, 04:57 PM
I disabled my seatbelt chime but I still where em. I got a fine a
couple of weeks ago for not wearing seatbelts.... I was, but the real
violation was speeding... I got off easy. I said, "Officer, I was
wearing my seatbelt". He said..... listen again....http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley18.gif

Harley99
10-15-2004, 04:58 PM
My other truck that I drive alot is a 1951 Chevy. I have so gotten into this seat belt thing that it has almost taken all the fun out of driving my First design Duramax. Maybe they were thinking about them way back then but when in my 04 everybody has to buckle even before I will start the engine.


Just my .02 worth

baimpala
10-15-2004, 06:50 PM
hoot,



In the Navy we call that "Knows correct answer when told."
LOL He was pretty cool about it. How fast were you goin'?



Dennis

hoot
10-15-2004, 07:24 PM
67 in a 45

Frank Blum
10-15-2004, 09:25 PM
I do not wear mine because someone told me to. I wear mine because it saved my life once already. Later! Frank

Turbo6600
10-15-2004, 10:01 PM
YOU PEOPLE ARE SOMETHING ELSE WHERE IN MY POST DID I SAY THAT A SEAT BELT WAS BAD I DID NOT SAY THAT YOU GUYS JUST WANT TO TWIST SH*T Around


Coyote Kid Your family was luckier that mine my grandmother was killed in a car wreck AND SHE WAS WEARING HER SEATBELT. SO Don't tell me about SEATBELTS I KNOW THEY SAVE LIVES but in my case they didn't. Airbags save lives too but you can shut them off!


I could go off on HOOT for speeding but its HIS CHOICE to Speed Not mine.


Hey dwrat http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley35.gif Right back at you! You run your railroad I'll run minehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gifEdited by: Turbo6600

hoot
10-15-2004, 10:06 PM
Do you wear seatbelts? I guess that wasn't clear.



Speeding? that's pretty subjective.

GMC2500HD
10-15-2004, 10:08 PM
Seatbelts save lives... Enough said....http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif

dpower
10-15-2004, 10:39 PM
Seatbelt saved my life when I was 17 yrs. old and I am very greatful...I think you should wear one. But, if you don't want to wear one that is your choice..and I will respect your choice.

dpower
10-15-2004, 10:41 PM
Turbo...I don't think people are tryin to get on your chit personally about the seat belt thing...take it easy..don't think there was any harm intended.

Turbo6600
10-15-2004, 10:54 PM
I Guess maybe they rubbed me wrong just have to drift off topic all the time on this politically correct forum. Can't ever just get a straight answer to your question ! Turbo6600

yamahagrizzly
10-15-2004, 10:55 PM
the best way to stop the chime to to a auto parts store and order a bew belt buckle thing. plug it in and the chime goes away and u can just take it out when if some one needs the buckle or if you sell the truck.


me personally dont care who does or doesnt wear a seat belt plus he asked for no ones coments on why he does or doesnt wear it. it is 100% his choice just like anything else. we can do anything we want if we want to but we got to pay the conciquences(sp). as for the door lock i dont know how to fix it other than dont buy door locks anymore!


i think this guys is a little touch anyways so why run around and ruffly is feathers. its like you guys asking a question about a chevy and the dodge and ford guys come in and start saying how much better theirs is than yours. its all opinion on who should do what.


now i think we robbed this guys post anough and we came to the conclusion that the door locks are helpless and the seat belt chime can only be fixed by either buying a seat belt and pluging it in or you can take the middle seat belt and plug that in or wear your seat belt

Turbo6600
10-15-2004, 11:06 PM
Yamahagrizzly Yeah I guess I am touchy I guess that is what you are saying. Thanks for your input If I have another question i guess I'll ask the dealer they don't come down on me like I'm a spyat least for asking a simple question . That is a little extreme to sell the truck with less tha 100 miles on it http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif


A**holes are like opinions everyone has one !! Turbo6600

coyotekid
10-15-2004, 11:33 PM
You know, you're absolutely right Turbo6600, I guess I offered my opinion when it wasn't asked for.


Sorry for pissing you off. In my case, the easiest way to avoid the chime is to just put the seat belt on.


The airbag thing is a good point, too. Although I don't think you can usually turn off driver airbags.

supermex
10-16-2004, 01:21 AM
Koyotekid, you can disconect air bag i hate them but havent taken time to do it. on the seat belt thing i wuld not be here if i had mine on when we hit trainhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley11.gif

Max Power
10-16-2004, 01:42 AM
You could easily 'rewire' the seat belt switch so it thinks that the seat belt is plugged in. As for the auto door locks, that might be a bit tougher. My 04.5 doesn't do that so it hasn't been a great concern for me. Autolocks drive me crazy.


Off the top of my head, if I had a truck that autolocked I would put a relay in series with the door lock fuse so that when the ignition was on the power locks would not lock the doors. Maybe not an ideal solution but a solution.

baimpala
10-16-2004, 08:47 AM
Turbo6600,



The connector you are looking for is the C305 connector located under
the drivers seat towards the back, but about in the middle. You
need to short pins E and J together. The connector is a 16 way
connector and is black. E is a BLK/WHT wire, J is a YEL
wire. If you need pictures, let me know.



Dennis

hd90rider
10-16-2004, 04:27 PM
Guess I better not ever tell anyone I hate helmets http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif

hoot
10-16-2004, 04:28 PM
I hate most safety devices as do most people. But I feel safer when I use them.



Some people are more concerned about how they look than if they are safe.

idahofox
10-16-2004, 10:16 PM
I hate most safety devices as do most people. But I feel safer when I use them.

Some people are more concerned about how they look than if they are safe.






No seat belt may be macho, it is very expensive in CA, $85.


I prefere to make my own choices, seat belt, helmet, and others, I would rather spend my $85 on "Colorado Kool Aid".

Max Power
10-16-2004, 11:54 PM
It's over $200 here and 2 points off of your licence. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley18.gif

Melvin Hatcher
10-17-2004, 08:35 AM
YOU PEOPLE ARE SOMETHING ELSE WHERE IN MY POST DID I SAY THAT A SEAT BELT WAS BAD I DID NOT SAY THAT YOU GUYS JUST WANT TO TWIST SH*T Around


Coyote Kid Your family was luckier that mine my grandmother was killed in a car wreck AND SHE WAS WEARING HER SEATBELT. SO Don't tell me about SEAT BELTS I KNOW THEY SAVE LIVES but in my case they didn't. Airbags save lives too but you can shut them off!


I could go off on HOOT for speeding but its HIS CHOICE to Speed Not mine.


Hey dwrat http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley35.gif Right back at you! You run your railroad I'll run minehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif





Temper, temper. Hey guys, cool it. We are here to help each other. Everyone who wants too, wear your seat belt. Those that don't want too, don't wear them and suffer with the consequences!


Now for the chime. My 2004.5 LT, the SEAT BELT chime only chime for a little while and then turns itself off. However the seatbelt light will continue to flash until the seat belt is hooked.

Melvin Hatcher
10-17-2004, 08:29 PM
YOU PEOPLE ARE SOMETHING ELSE WHERE IN MY POST DID I SAY THAT A SEAT BELT WAS BAD I DID NOT SAY THAT YOU GUYS JUST WANT TO TWIST SH*T Around


Coyote Kid Your family was luckier that mine my grandmother was killed in a car wreck AND SHE WAS WEARING HER SEATBELT. SO Don't tell me about SEAT BELTS I KNOW THEY SAVE LIVES but in my case they didn't. Airbags save lives too but you can shut them off!


I could go off on HOOT for speeding but its HIS CHOICE to Speed Not mine.


Hey dwrat http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley35.gif Right back at you! You run your railroad I'll run minehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif





Temper, temper. Hey guys, cool it. We are here to help each other. Everyone who wants too, wear your seat belt. Those that don't want too, don't wear them and suffer with the consequences!


Now for the chime. My 2004.5 LT, the SEAT BELT chime only chime for a little while and then turns itself off. However the seatbelt light will continue to flash until the seat belt is hooked.








Drove it today for the first time without hooking up the seat belts. The chime turned off after about thirty seconds. the seatbelt warning light went out after about 1/4 mile. Therefore I don't see the problem for anyone to complain about, seat belt user or non users.

hoot
10-17-2004, 08:34 PM
Just make sure your kids wear them.

Turbo6600
10-17-2004, 09:18 PM
Thanks Guys Just I appoligize for Acting like a school kid Just wanted a straight answer. I Know the 04 That I just traded in Would let you lock them manually that is what I meant by my post I only had my 04 for 6 months and this 05' is totally different that's what makes me mad http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif.


Baimpala pics would be great


Turbo6600


My kid will always wear his seatbelt!!!!!!!!!!!

hoot
10-17-2004, 09:20 PM
How well off will your kid be without his father?

baimpala
10-17-2004, 09:34 PM
Turbo6600,



Well, as I went to snap a picture of the connector, I figured out
there's an easier way. There is a two-pin connector that is just
the seatbelt switch. It should be very easy to find, unplug, and
jumper. Here's a picture of the driver's seat. The
connector you're looking for is number 5 in the shot:



http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/baimpala/2004-10-17_183306_Seat_Belt_Switch_002.jpg



It may be a bear to get to, but definitely your best bet.



Hope it helps,

Dennis

baimpala
10-17-2004, 09:35 PM
Oh, yeah, the wire colors are the same: Yellow, and Black/White.



Dennis

dwrat
10-18-2004, 04:27 AM
[QUOTE=Turbo6600]


Thanks Guys Just I appoligize for Acting like a school kid


__________________________________________________ __________ __


You don't need to tell us you appoligize for acting like a school kid. Stating you don't wear your seat belt shows us you are a "COOL" school kid. Man you need to grow up.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley35.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley21.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/throw up.gifEdited by: dwrat

DuckhunterInTN
10-18-2004, 11:25 AM
You guys are being a little harsh on Turbo6600, aren't you? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley18.gif



You don't know his situation. He might farm or work construction or something and be in and out of his truck at slow speeds all day around the farm or jobsite.


The wearing a seatbelt is his choice. He asked a polite question and even asked people not to bring up the "not wearing a seatbelt" thing in his first post....

dmaxfan
10-18-2004, 11:28 AM
Hey guys, he said he doesn't want to wear his seat belt. He didn't say he was turning gay, drinking and driving, becoming a terrorist or that he is the Antichrist. It is his choice. Yes, they do save lives. One saved my wifes life when she hit a concrete culvert at 80 mph. It is his choice to wear it, and no need push the issue. If he wants to turn himself into a greasy spot in the middle of the road, that is his business.

Mjollnir
10-18-2004, 04:00 PM
You should always wear your seatbelt, it's the safe thing to do.

Now I'm going to go smoke my cigarettes on the way to McDonalds, eat 2 Big Macs and a bucket of fries, then smoke more cigarettes while refueling my truck and talking on my cell phone. Go home, drink beer and watch porn while removing asbestos, eating potato chips and running with scissors. What is a "helmet"?

I don't care what you do with yourself, just don't do it to me, and don't expect me to pay for it when you get hurt doing it. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif

Turbo6600
10-18-2004, 09:56 PM
Hey HOOT Go back to the TDR and play I 'm old enough to make my own decision's I have been for almost 31 years an I have never woke up in the morning and wondered what you thought or any of you other guy's .


Duckhunterin TN You are exactly right I'm in and out of the truck moving wagons head cart"s ETC. in the field I'm trying to help feed the world as a farmer not picking every post to death like the rest of these http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley8.gif's but I just ask a question instead I get the FLame For two F ing days http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif Turbo6600

hoot
10-18-2004, 10:08 PM
Hey HOOT Go back to the TDR and play I 'm old
enough to make my own decision's I have been for almost 31 years an I
have never woke up in the morning and wondered what you thought or any
of you other guy's .


Duckhunterin TN You are exactly right I'm in and out of the truck
moving wagons head cart"s ETC. in the field I'm trying to help
feed the world as a farmer not picking every post to death like
the rest of these http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley8.gif's but I just ask a question instead I get the FLame For two F ing days http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif Turbo6600



OK get mad at us for thinking about you

Turbo6600
10-18-2004, 10:18 PM
You need to come accross that way then. Talk civil to me and I will talk back the same wayhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif Turbo6600

aketay
10-18-2004, 10:34 PM
Back to your original ?, go to the dealer and tell them that you need
the obese seat belt extender for your mother-in-law. They have a 6" and
9" option and will give it to you for free. Leave it plugged in and the
chime will be gone. Can't help you with the lock thing.

dwrat
10-19-2004, 12:22 AM
Brian


I know you are 30 years old and know everything, but take it from me a person much older then yourself. "Pull your head out and put your seat belt on you dumb # # #". !!!!!!!!!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley35.gif


Now get back to the farm so I can eat! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gifEdited by: dwrat

biggar
10-19-2004, 01:29 AM
I can't believe anyone cares how long I stick around this planet other than those that are close to me. I wear my belt, I wear my helmet and full gear when I ride my motorcycle, but I certainly don't think the government, or anyone else, should be able to tell me I have to. Don't we have enough laws (and Lawyers) already


BTW, I'm glad you got your seatbelt buzzer issue sorted.





Gar

hoot
10-19-2004, 06:02 AM
Turbo6600,



Sorry about that. I just think when the kid asks.. Daddy how come you
make me wear a seatbelt but you don't, there simply isn't a good
answer. Actually adults are more fragile than kids.



I saw a kid get killed after getting thrown out of his Mustang GT. The
car didn't have a scratch. He was by himself. He was laying on the
ground about 30 feet away. He lost control on the highway. When a car
spins or flips, bodies do everything except stay in the seat. Same with
getting slammed by someone.



They don't allow race car drivers to run without helmets, seatbelts and
many other safety devices. Mandatory. No personal choice. Don't like
it, don't race. How much different is the highway?



This subject isn't open to personality or courtesy of speech. In the end what difference does it make how somebody spoke.



They just repealed the motorcycle helmet law in PA recently. Personally
I think it's sad because you now see so many people riding without
anything protecting their hard heads. I guess that's it... when you
become an adult your head gets harder son.






Edited by: hoot

blowinsmoke
10-19-2004, 08:36 AM
plug your seatbelt in and then cut the strap. that way it is plugged in, just remember to leave enough excess so you can tie it to the rest of the belt if you start hydroplaning or sliding on icehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

skoryaro2
10-19-2004, 09:23 AM
I don't care what you do with yourself, just don't do it to me, and don't expect me to pay for it when you get hurt doing it. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif


Personal decision or not - this is where it affects ALL of us. Higher medical bills thus, higher medical insurance, higher vehicle insurance, higher life insurance........................etc. etc.


Rob

ArrBee
10-19-2004, 11:28 AM
I don't care what you do with
yourself, just don't do it to me, and don't expect me to pay for it
when you get hurt doing it. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif


Personal decision or not - this is where it affects ALL of us.
Higher medical bills thus, higher medical insurance, higher vehicle
insurance, higher life insurance........................etc. etc.


Rob



This is EXACTLY the issue I have with the door locking. If I put
the truck in gear and/or gets up to 8/10 MPH the damned doors will
lock. If I then have an accident and get knocked out the
rescuers' attempts are frustrated by not being able to get to me until
someone breaks a window, exposing me to further potential injury and
delaying treatment/assistance. Same arguement for someone
experiencing a stroke or heart attack, the consequences have a higher
probability of being worse if the damned doors are locked. BTW,
the door is no more securely closed by being locked, it isn't as if
there is something like an extra deadbolt, its just a disabling of the
outside door handle.



Yes, I drive with doors unlocked, but it aggravates me that every time
I drive my daughter's '96 corsair that I have to unlock the doors when
I put it in gear. I can do it, its no big deal, just a
pita. A lot of people probably give up on it and allow themselves
to be locked in - away from help. Don't kid yourself that it
deters theives in high crime areas, they'll open your window with a
short length of pipe while you're stopped at the lights if they want to
)-:

baimpala
10-19-2004, 12:34 PM
Don't the doors automatically unlock if you are involved in an accident
after four seconds? I think that's only if the air bags go off,
but I tend to think you wouldn't get knocked unconscious unless they
bags deployed anyway. . . I don't think you have to worry about the
locks. . .



Just a thought,

Dennis

DuckhunterInTN
10-19-2004, 12:57 PM
With all the talk on this website of burnouts, quarter-mile times, street racing other diesels from stoplights, fogging out ricers with diesel smoke, and running 80 mph down the road. I find it hard to believe the amount of grief you all are giving this guy. (not that I am opposed to any of the above mentioned activitieshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif )


Heck, I don't buckle up every time I get in a truck. I'm not gonna buckle the seatbelt around on the farm moving equipment or hooking up a trailer or the like. And that buzzer is on and just as annoying then just like it is on the road.

hoot
10-19-2004, 05:39 PM
I also don't buckle up sometimes when it doesn't warrant it. I jumped
the buzzer in my sestbelt so it never buzzes. I don't need a buzzer to
remind me.

Turbo6600
10-20-2004, 09:12 PM
Hoot you are a piece of work I did not say that I never wore mine just don't like the chime but It's ok if it is you http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif I guess Turbo 6600





Dwrathttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif I'm younger than you!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley29.gif Edited by: Turbo6600

JRKRACE
10-20-2004, 10:57 PM
Lots of good points here...mostly opinion. Here's mine. I always wear mine. Being in the fire service for about 13 years, I have seen things that most people will never see. When you see accidents and bodies, the first thing you do is wear a seatbelt. You actually get SCARED into wearing it. That's enough for me. The ironic thing is the booze,smoke, cigars(me),and food we eat will probably kill us quicker. I guess everyone has a balance point somewhere...

dwrat
10-21-2004, 05:11 AM
Son, you are just a puppy with water still behind your ears. I entered this world way back in July of 1915. Will be 90 next July!!!!!!


Can anyone top that, most people my age don't even know how to turn a computer on let alone a lady.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif

hoot
10-21-2004, 06:17 AM
Son, you are just a puppy with water still behind
your ears. I entered this world way back in July of 1915. Will be 90
next July!!!!!!


Can anyone top that, most people my age don't even know how to turn a computer on let alone a lady.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif



And your profile interests are quads and jetskis????



Man... what do you eat?

Mackin
10-21-2004, 06:47 AM
Son, you are just a puppy with water still behind your ears. I entered this world way back in July of 1915. Will be 90 next July!!!!!!


Can anyone top that, most people my age don't even know how to turn a computer on let alone a lady.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif




And your profile interests are quads and jetskis????

Man... what do you eat?



Ya no kidding !!


He must do a work out regime too.


Look he even has enough calf to hold the brake peddle to do a burn out,even a Young spry, a third his age ,Tony, can't hold his truck from red lighting!





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