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: Braces and sleeves and alignments....


TheBac
06-10-2007, 09:56 AM
117,000 miles on the truck. My plan all along was to add Cognito's braces (thanks Kat and Pat!) and Super Diesel's tie rod sleeves (awesome product!) just to tighten up the steering, but also so I could "race the truck". Had to get the UPS slogan in there somewhere. :lol: The steering was sloppy, but IMO it was nothing to raise any immediate red flags. It wasnt unsafe by any means. I just figured I may need either the idler or pittman.

That is, I thought that until I get the truck on Eric's lift yesterday.....:eek::eek::eek:

This is what we had to replace:

1 new Idler arm and idler support
1 new pittman arm (what a total B**** to R&R!!!!!!!!)
1 new outer tie rod

Total from Eric's website: $355 :eek: I guess if I amotize the parts cost over another 117,000 miles, its not all that bad, but dang....



Install:

Install went about as well as I can do.
Sleeves are a piece of cake to install. COUNT YOUR TURNS!
Idler was relatively easy for me. 2 bolts and the ball stud.
Pittman was a WHOLE 'nother story. Eric finally came over and gave me a hand, as I was struggling. Lets just not talk about it.....
Some tips I got from Eric on installing the braces: Install both idler and pittman at the same time, as you have to have the center link loose to fit everything. Keep everything loose until all the parts are put together, and then tighten everything in backwards order to the frame from the Heim joints to the brackets to the idler/pittman mounts.

Tack on another $80 (or buying dinner and beers for Glenn a couple times) for the alignment that had to be done afterward, too. This was one thing I really did need to do anyways, as its been two years since I bought the truck.
Didnt have any abnormal tire wear yet, but I had noticed when looking at my truck in the driveway that the tires cambered (?) like this -- \ - \ -- instead of this -- \ - / -- when viewing from the front. I thought I was just seeing things, until Glenn got the truck on the machine and confirmed it. BTW, if you want a first-class alignment from an outstanding Tech, call Eric and get Glenn's phone number in Allendale MI!
No lie -- 30 minutes from drive up to drive off, with me asking questions the whole time. Very very professional, and extremely knowledgable!

Also, I'll say it again -- if you live in the Houston area, DO NOT go to Gay Chevrolet in Dickenson Texas for ANY service work. They have idiots working in their service dept. This truck was serviced there by the previous owner, and I have found more screwed-up service work done by them than I care to admit to. Its cost a lot to fix their errors.

My impressions:

WOW! Tighter, responsive steering. Is this what I'd been missing? You can tell the braces are there, thats for sure. The alignment was spot-on, and the truck doesn't wander at all. Tracks straight and true! Freeway driving was actually fun, as I didnt have to constantly correct, and when making lane changes, the truck responded positively to steering input with no "laggy" feel.

I HIGHLY recommend people install the Cognito kit on their trucks. You definitely get your money's worth out of those braces, both in better steering response and (hopefully) longer steering part life!

GMC-2002-Dmax
06-10-2007, 10:24 AM
Hey BAC,

Next time if replacing the Pitman Arm on the steering box cut 90% through the side of the arm with a die grinder then give it a few shots with an air chisel where you cut it and it will fall off the steering shaft........;)

No puller necessary, no cursing, struggling, etc........:D

Also do not forget to mark the location of the arm on the shaft before removal so the new one can istall in the exact same spot.

My friend who is a mechanic rebuilt my front end last March as I had no time to tackle it myself, he shared a few tricks with me, after 34 years as a mechanic he figured a few shortcuts out.

:cool:

C.A.P
06-10-2007, 10:39 AM
Yup , I had the same deal done and it is a world of difference. Especially when passing very fast like ! I also did tires at the same time so its all new !

dmaxalliTech
06-10-2007, 11:32 AM
I got to hear Tom use words only a Sailor would use....

Job is pretty easy ( arms and supports) with a few tricks, Tom knows how now...LOL

mwswarrior
06-10-2007, 11:37 AM
I got to hear Tom use words only a Sailor would use....

On behalf of myself and Sailors all over the world, I RESEMBLE THAT COMMENT!

TheBac
06-10-2007, 09:13 PM
I got to hear Tom use words only a Sailor would use....

Job is pretty easy ( arms and supports) with a few tricks, Tom knows how now...LOL

ha ha ha ha......what can I say? I was never in the military. its just that reality finally set in. Thanks again for all the help, Eric. I do appreciate it.

Just in case anyone wonders, Eric's part prices are very reasonable. Go price out those GM steering parts at the dealer some time....:eek: