i have an f350 dually 4x4 with 6.0l diesel. it has great pulling power. i am towing 14k pounds. it is nothing to get it up to 75 and not know it. the problem is that the truck brakes and trailer brakes are not good enough to stop the rolling mass very quickly. my question is this: does anyone make brake pads that would help my vehicle stop better. someone said that ceramic pads are much better. is this true? can i get these pads for both front and rear of vehicle.


thanks for the help


tom

don't you just love it when a car pulls into your braking zone, just so they can get in front of you. drives me nuts. never fails when pulling 12k load, I leave plenty of room to stop, just wait, 3 cars will fill up that braking zone. makes me just want to run over them and "say I had plenty of room until you pulled over in front of me."


not sure about ceramic pads, but would like to know too.

don't you just love it when a car pulls into your braking zone, just so they can get in front of you. drives me nuts. never fails when pulling 12k load, I leave plenty of room to stop, just wait, 3 cars will fill up that braking zone. makes me just want to run over them and "say I had plenty of room until you pulled over in front of me."


not sure about ceramic pads, but would like to know too.


i found the ceramic pads at NAPA. i am putting them on this weekend. will let you know the outcome. they were not cheap. about $150.00 for the front and rear.


tom

I have found that the best way to correct this problem is by installing an exhaust brake. That would be the best way.

Tom-


Is your trailer an RV or boat trailer? I was having the same problem w/my F-250 pulling a 34' boat trailer w/triple axles. I had disc brakes on the boat trailer (surge) but they just weren't enough.


I purchased an Electric over Hydraulic actuator (BrakeRite $575). It will apply up to 1600 psi hydraulic pressure based on the brake controller in the truck cab. The controller inside applies pressure in the same proportion that you press down the brake pedal. Works fantastic! I highly suggest it.


My problem wasn't the fault of the truck. I have a 28' Nordic 'Heat' and a truck-camper on the back. That 6.0 doesn't even slow down going up, but coming down............


I don't really agree w/the exhaust brakes on the 6.0. Heard some bad things about that & variable turbo on the 6.0. Just an FYI.

Tom, maybe share a little stopping history with you...


I just retired from a tire co. that sent out 4- 3/4ton pickups with special build trailers to haul truck tires across the northwest each day... we have freeways and mountains to drive in... the rigs where liscensed to 26,000 lbs... quite a load,,, special pull trailer had dual wheels with special 4" brakes... all pickups where turbo powered.


I was in charge of vehicles and after trying most all brands of brake pads and rotors...(special pads and rotors).. found that the Raybestos Brutestop or Super Stop Pads gave us the best service and the best stopping power all the times...


I am retired now and with pickup and 5th wheel, the first thing I did was pull off the new brakes on the pickup and put Super Stop Pads on front and rear..... Safety first and money second...


I did pull with the Original pads, and notice very big diff with the Raybestos,,, specialty on the long down the mountain stops....on hot days...


Well, worth it....http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif

Where do you buy these 'Brutestop' pads. I called NAPA and they don't have them. They've got Motorcraft & Raybestos, but he went and looked at the box and it doesn't say 'Brutestop'. Are they a different composition than regular?


On the exhaust brake item, I know they make exhaust brakes (actually only BD that I know of) for the 6.0, so I'd check with a Ford diesel mechanic before ruling out the exhaust brakes.


If you find out different info than I heard, let me know. I'd be interested in the exhaust brakes if they're not going to damage the turbo/engine.


I don't like using my trailer brakes all the way down a mountain & that's what I have to do because the trailer is constantly pushing the truck.

I had to S.O. them from a local shop...





go to raybestos.com and I think they list suppliers that might be close to you, or they will take your order and ship...


Costs on front pads was apox 60.00 and rear aprox 138.00...


seems high but then a turbo high too... if you are going to go, you have to stop.... Look in on Raybestos site and they explain the diff pads and what they are used for...


Hope this helps

OK thanks. I'll do that right now. Have a good one & thanks for the follow-up post.

Looking at their web site now. I have a F250 Super Duty, Super Cab, 4X4, FX4, 305/55/20 wheels/tires, automatic inflation Ride-Rite air bags, slide in truck camper & pulling 28' Nordic powerboat.


Would you suggest the SuperStop or Brutestop? I'm going to order the rotors & pads today & would appreciate your input on the ones to order. I spent quite a bit on the boat trailer converting to electric over hydraulic disc brakes & this will help also.


Thanks for your time & input, it's appreciated.

PS: I installed a Draw-Tite weight distributing hitch with the Draw-Tite HP dual cam sway control for pulling boat. Tongue weight isn't that much, but wanted the HP sway control.

The Super Stop are the ones I put on.. Brute Stop where a little to rough on the rotors for me... if we used Brute Stop we had to replace the rotors each time we did brakes...Got aprox 25,000 on them, and remember we where at max legal loads all the time..


With Super Stop we replaced front rotors every other brake job...Altho I did double check on lathe to make sure of good surface for the new pads....Got aprox 30,000 on each set of pads and rotors really did not look that bad, but replaced them anyway,





We took no chances on having any kind of accident... and never did...

Thanks. Those are the ones I've been pricing (Super Stop)