Ok here we go. I want to Beef up my 02 2500HD 6.0
I would love to see some more torque to make a better truck for towing. I am doing this so my wife can tow are horse trailers around with more confidence. Mainly because she does not want to drive the dully we are going to get. So what do I need to buy to do this? The truck is a base Silverado 2500HD 4X4, reg cab, LB, AT, 4.10, 6.0.
I want this truck to become just plain nasty.Edited by: Savvy up

SUPER CHARGE IT!! It will make it NASTY!

Wrong forum, Goto Ls1tech.com. Enter world of friendly help for gassers, and people who know LSx series engines, and what tuning you need for mods to get the motor dialed in right.


Looking for good truck pulling setups then this is the place.


All thats here is a bunch diesel heads stuck on 1950's gas tech. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif
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Not all of them...

No not all of them, but have much better time over there, without being hounded by diesel heads.


Have ever thought turbocharger, its the new in thing to do to LSx series of engines. Some people have switch from their radix setup and gone with a turbo.


But basics to get start :


What your bugdet$$?????
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Look on ebay for some good Vortec, Pro Charger, Paxton, or Powerdyne super chargers. Really what it needs for some kick. She will be happy with it. Might look at some tranny up grades as well to insure the life of it. Trans Go from TTS would make a big difference when going this route.

I think super chargers ar better with modern gas powered trucks. Better
throttle responce and power band generally over a turbo.

Well I would Love to turbo charge it. I would like to keep the budget 2000 and less.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif

A "super" is a one day bolt on doable for under 3K with some setups

What kind of horse trailer are you pulling?


I pull a #13000+ 3H gooseneck LQ with my 2500HD. I upped the tires to 265 so they are not overloaded, I put airbags so I ride level and amsoil 75W140 in the rear diff. ...Oh and a Prodigy brake controller.


Get that stuff right before you put more under the hood. If she will be pulling a bumper tow, make shure she loads it with a good balance, put the weight distrobution and maybe a sway control device on.

<font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Ok here we go.<span style=""> </span>I want to Beef up my 02<span style=""> </span>2500HD 6.0</font>
<font face="Times New Roman" size="3">I would love to see some more torque to make a better truck for towing.<span style=""> </span>I am doing this so my wife can tow are horse trailers around with more confidence.<span style=""> </span>Mainly because she does not want to drive the dully we are going to get.<span style=""> </span>So what do I need to buy to do this?<span style=""> </span>The truck is a base Silverado 2500HD 4X4, reg cab, LB, AT, 4.10, 6.0.<span style=""> </span></font>
<font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style=""></span>I want this truck to become just plain nasty.</font>



You know, just one more thought on this, throw in some 4.56's and a
custom tune and it will wake the truck up towing without a super on
it. You would not believe the change it will make in towing and
OD towing performance with that 6.0.

I would have to agree that a set of gears and a custom tune would get you some good power increases. Total cost would probably be under $1000.00. A supercharger would give you a bunch of extra Hp &amp; Tq, but the initial cost is quite high.


My 6.0L is stock except for the Westers Tune and it runs really good and tows just fine. I only tow around 5000lbs though, so the factory 4.10s do the job just fine.Edited by: Chevyfreek

I would have to agree that a set of gears and a
custom tune would get you some good power increases. Total cost
would probably be under $1000.00. A supercharger would give you a
bunch of extra Hp &amp; Tq, but the initial cost is quite high.




Nice thing about new gears and a tune is that it would be bullet proof
towing too. Not that it could not be with a super but you would have
more thing to keep a eye on when towing boosted where as stock is a no
brainer.

I would have to agree that a set of gears and a custom tune would get you some good power increases. Total cost would probably be under $1000.00.





Good luck finding a shop to do it for under a $1,000, just for the gear swap alone you are probably looking in the $1,500-2,000 range...mostly due to the price of labor to drop the front differential and then split the case on the bench....not a hard job just time consuming....if your looking for that real kick in the pants mod...then pony up and get a blower and be done with it.


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I would have to agree that a set of gears and a custom tune would
get you some good power increases. Total cost would probably be
under $1000.00.





Good luck finding a shop to do it for under a $1,000, just for the
gear swap alone you are probably looking in the $1,500-2,000
range...mostly due to the price of labor to drop the front differential
and then split the case on the bench....not a hard job just time
consuming....if your looking for that real kick in the pants mod...then
pony up and get a blower and be done with it.


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You can get a two sets of gears online for about 425 to 450 or so and
that would leave $550 to $575 for installation which is possible at
that price if you shop around but not likely at a dealer as they would
charge you 1000 bucks just for the gears and likely a cool $1000 or
more for labor too!

Ok here we go. I want to Beef up my 02 2500HD 6.0
I would love to see some more torque to make a better truck for towing. I am doing this so my wife can tow are horse trailers around with more confidence. Mainly because she does not want to drive the dully we are going to get. So what do I need to buy to do this? The truck is a base Silverado 2500HD 4X4, reg cab, LB, AT, 4.10, 6.0.
I want this truck to become just plain nasty.




You know, just one more thought on this, throw in some 4.56's and a custom tune and it will wake the truck up towing without a super on it. You would not believe the change it will make in towing and OD towing performance with that 6.0.



Some 4.56's??? gears... Well i would like to give her all the low end she could get. See is up to par on pulling trailers and the trailer weight will be around 9,000 lbs at the most because all the trailers she will pull for now are bumper pullers.I would not mind some more ponys too but dont want to spool the rpm's up to high.

<font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Ok here we go.<span> </span>I want to Beef up my 02<span> </span>2500HD 6.0</font>
<font face="Times New Roman" size="3">I would love to see some more torque to make a better truck for towing.<span> </span>I am doing this so my wife can tow are horse trailers around with more confidence.<span> </span>Mainly because she does not want to drive the dully we are going to get.<span> </span>So what do I need to buy to do this?<span> </span>The truck is a base Silverado 2500HD 4X4, reg cab, LB, AT, 4.10, 6.0.<span> </span></font>
<font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span></span>I want this truck to become just plain nasty.</font>




You know, just one more thought on this, throw in
some 4.56's and a custom tune and it will wake the truck up towing
without a super on it. You would not believe the change it will
make in towing and OD towing performance with that 6.0.



Some 4.56's??? gears... Well i would like to give
her all the low end she could get. See is up to par on pulling
trailers and the trailer weight will be around 9,000 lbs at the most
because all the trailers she will pull for now are bumper pullers.I
would not mind some more ponys too but dont want to spool the rpm's up
to high.



You will only raise RPM 11% in any given gear and put engine better
into its power band because unlike a oil burner it needs to crank a bit
when pulling hard. It will also increase tractive effort by atleast 11%
(but it will feel like more because engine will be further into it
power range) 4.56's would wake it up everywhere, top and bottom,
especailly with a 9K trailer. You will feel like you put a bigger
engine in truck when it is done and OD towing will work better too. It
is a win win senerio.

Thanks Snoman, so how hard do you think it will be to swap out thos gears? I heard working on the front diff is a real bear?? Oh how much do thoes 4.56's efect MPG? Its not a big deal gust wonderinghttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif.

Towing MPG may actually improve because a engine (diesel or gas) is
most efficient under load when it is running near its torque peak in
gallons of fuel burned per HP hour generated. In town it may
increase too and on road not towing probaly a toss up on MPG.
Actually front axle is not the bad, yes you have to remove pig for
truck but then you can set it up on a bench which is easier than under
truck. The rear axle (depending on whether you have the 10.5 or 11.5)
is not to bad with the 10.5 being the easiest because you shim the
pinion carrier itself for depth after pinion bearing preload is set
rather than having to redo bearing preload on pinion every time you
change depth but even then it is not to hatefull.

Hemm sounds good. I hard of a project is this? Should i have the dealer do this or should i tempt it my self?

Hemm sounds good. I hard of a project is this? Should i have the dealer do this or should i tempt it my self?


Do not take this the wrong way....but if you have to ask that question...I would stear clear of doing it.


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Hemm sounds good. I hard of
a project is this? Should i have the dealer do this or should i
tempt it my self?


Do not take this the wrong way....but if you have to ask that question...I would stear clear of doing it.


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Yes I would say so too. I would not go to a car dealer though but I
would shop around for a 4x4 or speed shop that does gear work (or a
freind that knows how)

A set of gears would nice, but 4.10s are pretty mean in their own right. I put a 144 ci roots style supercharger on a suburban (I believe whipple makes these) and it woke right up. Instant throttle response and plenty of power to spin the tires. I would think a 6.0 with 4.10s and a blower would be a sweet towing setup...not to mention the cool factorhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif!


do a search for superchargers before you step into that deep of a gear


you could probably bump the torque up 30-40% instead of 11% at a lower dollar ratio

Hemm sounds good. I hard of a project is this? Should i have the dealer do this or should i tempt it my self?


Do not take this the wrong way....but if you have to ask that question...I would stear clear of doing it.


8.1http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif I have just never done this kind of job before, but i could follow the directions in the rebuild book.

I you are mechnically inclined and you a will to buy or rent a few
needed tools and can follow instruction in a manual, it is quite
doable. It can just take a bit of patience.

Savvy ----- putting gears isn't just a replace the old, slap in the new
deal...shiming the side gears and pinion correctly is a must, otherwise
you'll burn those gears up in a hurry...You may want to have someone
that has done it before at your side if you're going to do it
yourself...

Sounds good to me. I will let someone else cuss at the gear box. Thanks for the help guyshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif

Savvy ----- putting gears isn't just a replace the old, slap in the new
deal...shiming the side gears and pinion correctly is a must, otherwise
you'll burn those gears up in a hurry...You may want to have someone
that has done it before at your side if you're going to do it
yourself...








You will not burn them up per say but they could get quite noisy if set
up wrong and once worn in wrong, it is hard to get them quiet. If you
can use tools and read gear paint it is quite doable but it can be time
consuming until you get the hang of it. It is not as intimidating
as it looks sometimes.

Gerrr if I only had some more time to play around and gain some experience. I would really like to try thishttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif but I have to go away in a week so it looks like a good spring project.Thanks again. OH does anybody know where i can get a set of Billsting....shocks for my truck?