I'm considering running home heating oil, #2 Diesel dyed, as my cap price delivered to my home is $1.59. Would anyone have any concerns or experience with this. I know several people in my area that do the same thing in my area but I'm trying to gather as much info. as possible. Everything I have heard about it is that it is the exact same fuel , it just has a dye added. Thanks

Jh,


It is the same fuel as on road, however if caught with it in your truck it comes with fines in the area of $10k or so...


Pete

Don't get caught... It is highly illegal. Some affiliations will just fine you and others my confiscate your vehicle.. Only know of one incident where that has happened and they fined him something like 5K I think... Not worth it if you ask me..

Also if you go in for fuel system work and GM finds red dye fuel your warranty will be voided.

Jim

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(94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99 CHEVROLET C/K TRUCK) and ( 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99 CHEVROLET SUBURBAN) and (94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99 CHEVROLET TAHOE) and (94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 00, 01, 02, 03 CHEVROLET EXPRESS) and (94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99 GMC YUKON) and ( 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99 GMC C/K TRUCK) and (94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 00, 01, 02, 03 GMC SAVANA) and (94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99 CHEVROLET/GMC P32/42) and (00, 01, 02, 03 CHEVROLET/GMC C/K 2500/3500 SERIES)

We run #2 in our house, as does i think majority of the folk in the area....Only real downside to it is, if you run out, or power goes out and furance shuts off, when it goes back to refire your going to have that nice diesel aroma in the air for a bit...Doesnt bother me a bit, but im sure i dont represent majority...
Not to seem cocky or anything but my dad has ran red fuel in his pickups for as far back as i can remember...least 10 yrs...Not once has he been pulled in my DOT for inspection or anything... weve had our shair of pullovers and chitchats w/the fuzz, and theyve never seemed concern either...
W/that said i dont run red in my d-max for the reason stated above, that GM or anything manu. can say yep you ran red fuel thats a no-no, so now you pay...W/the whole injector mess, if something goes wrong id feel better about GM paying than me...heheheEdited by: Polarbear

If I read that bulliten correctly it looks like GM dosen't care about dyed fuel and states that Red fuel will NOT cause problems with pumps or sensors.

I know a fellar that runs it in 2 different D-Max's and the dealler know's it and still repairs the trucks and says just don't get caught by the man. The Texas HP checked our ford once is all that I have herd of.

wish there was a way to remove the dye, hmmmmmmmmmmm

In AZ they actually do inspect pickups for dyed fuel and it is a $10,000. fine if youre caught with it. The Farmers were doing this quite a bit as they use off road fuel in the tractors and such. The ADOT frequently performs random inspection points, when they do they make all diesel vehicles pull through even pick-ups, if you try and avoid one (kind of like a DUI stop) and get caught it is real bad. When the Highway Patrol stops you for any violation they can and do check your tanks for red fuel. If you drive 40,000 miles a year and get caught once you havent saved enough in fuel cost to pay the fine.

I know a guy who has a tank in the box of his truck and a box cover. He runs clear in the trucks fuel tank and dyed in the box. He said he's been checked a few times and they never thought to look in the box. Personally I wouldn't bother.

How do they check? Presumably through filter drain port? If
so, they would find red. Intruck or in box, it would show
up. Takes a few tank fulls to get out of system?

They siphon it out of your tank.

Some of the offroad dyes are also ultraviolet, they can check with a 12 volt blacklight down the filler neck without having to pull a fuel sample or it really gives a good indication on a fuel sample pulled from the filler neck with a piece of clear tubing.

Hope they put it back in after checking. For the cost.

What would it be worth to someone if an additive were available to clear the dye?

Funny question for somebodys first post, as far as I know NOBODY here runs dyed fuel.

I used to, its a pain in the ass to wait for the whole tank to fill. First time I took it to the diesel mechanic he could tell that we had been burning it and advised us not to. I didn't question him.

Also furnace oil is only about 20 cents less then diesel now, not worth the risk.

Polarbear, I bet your dad would be pleased to know you just told several thousand people his secret. Later! Frank

:o Oops.

would be legal in a off road farm truck situation..............just like my lull forklifts

... And according to our resident red fuel expert j holly, running red fuel will cause your truck to blow red smoke!

CK I'm guessing the red smoke was a joke, if not red dye does not cause red smoke.

Iit's what I run in my tractors and have on occasion when I did not feel like stopping to fill up fuel for big buck stations, have topped off my truck with enough red to get me to the truck stop for cheaper fuel( on avg fuel .13/gal more in MS vs AL) from the cans of red fuel I carry for my tractors, no adverse reaction on the truck.

At work we have done study for red fuel use in propulsion turbines, no adverse problems or red smoke from using red dyed fuel there either, only problem using red fuel from my experience is posible run in with authorities.

:D Yeah, I know it was a joke. That was my way of joking back. OK, so maybe it was lame!

Everything you want to know about diesel fuel can be found at this link

http://www.chevron.com/prodserv/fuels/bulletin/diesel/

hope this helps some. :D

(ps - I don't believe 'off-road' fuel is winterized, this may be important if your in a cold weather area)

I have been reading up on the alternative fuels and the red fuel hype (money savings?) ,not worth it in my oppinion.
Heres my problem with DOT. If one gets pulled over by law enforcement there must be one of two things apparent, either a gross violation of the law, traffic or otherwise or just good ol' probable cause. If law enforcement is checking tanks for violations it is in my oppinion a violation of your (our) rights. They (by law) either have to have a reasonable suspicion that one is using red fuel and or a warrant to take a fuel sample. This is in essence a search of your vehicle and without probable cause is not warranted.
Call me crazy but I see no difference in johnny fuzz wanting to search my home. I have nothing to hide but that does NOT mean that I want some stranger rooting through my things just for the hell of it.
I have never signed or even read for that fact ANYTHING that states one must allow an officer to take a sample of ones fuel for inspection. DMV made no statement to this when I registered my diesel nor when I renewed my license.
I will never run red fuels for the plain reason that it may well take ten years for the savings to offset the fine. One thing is for sure though, I anticipate the day that I get pulled in for an inspection. I will refuse their request for a sample of fuel. I believe that it is our right to do so.
Someone please chime in on this.
Layter, Marco.:blahblah:

We still get the high sulfer red fuel that used to be called Product 20. It runs noticably better but you can smell a truck using it a mile away. You smell like a ferry boat and any DOT person knows this. This is something you need to be aware of and take precautions.

Good point, you can easily smell the difference.
I was wondering, has anyone in here ever messed with dyed no.2 and UV lights? I have and the results are interesting.
I have heard that there is a member of this board that may know how to remove or make the dye inert.
Anyone know???

Drywaller-If they pull over ALL diesel trucks for an inspection, they do not need a warrant.


Checkpoint-type stops and searches (as long as they limit racial profiling, etc.), are pretty much legal.

You may be right, one thing "pretty much legal " does not work for me and about 20 million other red blooded Americans.
I can see your point about checkpoints. Take for example sobriety checkpoints. When you pull into one the officers look for obvious signs of intoxications, ie. smell open or empty containers etc. If they have reason to believe one is or was drinking then they have the right to perform the proper test and search ones vehicle.
Now, the red fuel. Just because one drives a diesel does not make them a suspect. The fact that one drives a diesel is not probable cause. Therefor I do not believe they have the right, by law, to do a search.
Id bet that if one had the money and resources one could beat the charge.
Just my 02' (LB7) cents

The US Supreme Court ruled on this kind of situation about 10 years ago. The ruling was that if all vehicles of a particular category are stopped, (such as all trucks for a weigh station) there need not be probable cause.

It would be easy to develop a road stop that meets this standard, particularly now with the Patriot Act. If a vehicle is stopped as one of many for one legitimate purpose (such as a safety check) and in the course of that inspection stop something else is discovered (such as illegal contraband or "illegal fuel"), it is a constitutional stop and arrest.

This is one reason why civil libertarians are so concerned about the Patriot Act. In the name of anti-terrorism, all kinds of snooping is underway. Here in Vermont, on Interstate 91 south of White River Junction and about 100 miles inside the US-Canada border, there are "immigration" road blocks where every vehicle must stop until someone looks inside, and the driver is then waved on. This is becoming so routine that they are going to build a multi-million dollar permanent road block at this location.

And what is silly about it is that everybody knows about it, and if you want to avoid it, you just get off the Interstate the exit before, go down old US Route 5, and then jump back on the interstate at the next entrance.

I have been pulled over and tested for dyed fuel in a pickup 3 times in the past 3 years and all 3 times it was the state Department of Tax and Revenue, if you are running dyed fuel you are guilty of tax evasion.

It aint worth the hassle... JMHO

But this is... a little help please...


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Vote #4 Harmon

You may be right, one thing "pretty much legal " does not work for me and about 20 million other red blooded Americans.
I can see your point about checkpoints. Take for example sobriety checkpoints. When you pull into one the officers look for obvious signs of intoxications, ie. smell open or empty containers etc. If they have reason to believe one is or was drinking then they have the right to perform the proper test and search ones vehicle.
Now, the red fuel. Just because one drives a diesel does not make them a suspect. The fact that one drives a diesel is not probable cause. Therefor I do not believe they have the right, by law, to do a search.
Id bet that if one had the money and resources one could beat the charge.
Just my 02' (LB7) centsThen they wouldn't have to worry about a few pennys saved on the red fuel in the first place.

Okay, as you can read from the thread its not just about the money savings. It about our rights and freedoms. I drive fuel truck for a living and no all about the dyed fuel and people using it for tax purposes. I just dont agree with the law having free access to our lives, on or off the road.
Layter, Marco.

Then they wouldn't have to worry about a few pennys saved on the red fuel in the first place.
I don't now what diesel is in Mass. but in CT it's around $2.40 a gal. I can buy red for $1.70, thats $.70 a gal savings that's $16 a tank four tanks a month at minimum is $64. Then in the Summer it even cheaper... problably can save a thousand a year in fuel costs.

The taxes help pay for the roads. If you use red fuel,its ok just don`t use the roads. Pay your share.

I agree with you Henryf. We really should pay our share. Unfortunately I live in California where we have to pay for way more than our share of things. Case in point; I just paid over $500.00 to register my truck, for one year! Included in that fee was a $9.00 charge for the California Highway Pratrol and a host of "other" charges.
Gas prices here are higher than in any other part of this country. In the off season regular unl (87) runs for about $2.09 and in the tourist season I have seen it as high as $2.89. Diesel right now is $2.66.
In Cali. we get taxed on everything, sometimes double taxed.
If all this doesnt make your head spin get this. In the town where I was raised, about two hours south, we got taxed on the rain water that hit our roof, ran through our gutters and into the street drains. Talk about a crock.
Anyways I am ranting now but I still agree with you Henryf. It just sucks that the fuel producers and distributors have us bent over that damn 55 gallon drum.
Layter, Marco.

I ran into one of the inspectors; {raptor feeding in western S. Dakoda} they like to hit the farm shows and dip all the farmers diesel rigs there. He said he also hits a lot of fairs also.

I have been running off road fuel for 80k miles using a B filter(stock is an A)without a problem.Im not registered commercial so I dont have to stop for DOT.If your not commercial and have a locked fuel cap I dont think they can make you open it.Like your trunk or glove compartment they can only ask and you can refuse.As far as not paying the fuel tax I dont feel bad at all!Its what this country was started from.Hell its the American way!

I don't now what diesel is in Mass. but in CT it's around $2.40 a gal. I can buy red for $1.70, thats $.70 a gal savings that's $16 a tank four tanks a month at minimum is $64. Then in the Summer it even cheaper... problably can save a thousand a year in fuel costs.Diesel around here is running 2.099/gal. That was not my point. Drywaller said "Id bet that if one had the money and resources one could beat the charge." The point being is if someone has enough money to fight the ticket, they surely have enough to just run the right fuel without all the fuss that come with trying to fuel up with home fuel.
But even at your figures, if you do save $1000 a year, is it worth the $10,000 fine and all the headaches that go alone with it?
Not trying to start a pissing match, just an observation.

Jon72, funny you say that. I was telling this oldtimer yesterday that this country was started by outlaws. Kind of ironic if ya ask me.

Let's see here, "The Man" gets away with taxing us how many times????

Ok, let's count the ways!! :) :

1. when you make your money.:o:
2. when you spend your money that you've already been taxed on.:(
3. When you put fuel in your truck to go to the mall so the wife can spend the money you just made and pay even more taxes.:mad:
4. When you keep items of value such as your house and car (yearly!!).-:t

All in all when you figure how much the government taxes us it's no wonder why $30,000.00 per year jobs are considered middle class, almost poverty these days. When you think about how much of that really goes to the "The Man" it's probably more like $15,000 if not less. :eek:

The government makes me sick with their greed!!! Censored Would I like to get back just a small portion of my hard earned money, and out of the governments pocket and back in my own hands???........Heck ya, but do I think it's worth putting 10k in their greedy hands if I get caught.........not a chance!!!! :badidea:

Thats right drywaller!Well I might even head down to Boston and dump some fuel barrels right in the harbor!Anybody with me!!!!!!......no.Can I get arrested for saying that?

Thats right drywaller!Well I might even head down to Boston and dump some fuel barrels right in the harbor!Anybody with me!!!!!!......no.Can I get arrested for saying that?Just stay north of our borders you Maine-e-ack):h

Diesel around here is running 2.099/gal. That was not my point. Drywaller said "Id bet that if one had the money and resources one could beat the charge." The point being is if someone has enough money to fight the ticket, they surely have enough to just run the right fuel without all the fuss that come with trying to fuel up with home fuel.
But even at your figures, if you do save $1000 a year, is it worth the $10,000 fine and all the headaches that go alone with it?
Not trying to start a pissing match, just an observation. Me niether, just showing it can be more than a few pennies.

As far as taxes go and not using the roads as another member said, well 50 cents a gallon is a little excessive don't you think? Our roads up here suck unless you live in a multi million dollar neighborhood. Any driver can tell you I-95, that has been under construction for the last 20 years, is a nightmare. On top of the diesel tax, we get charged a property tax on our vehicles as well. So I pay my share of taxes and then some. The roads get worse not better and there is no end in sight. Our emmisions testing stations are corrupt and have been shut down and our last Gov, is facing jail time for corruption as well. Taxation without representation, they can kiss my ass.http://dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/blahblah.gif I'm done.

Okay here it is,Bill of Rights,Amendment4 and 5

#4 The right of the people to be secure in their persons,houses papers,and effect,against unreasonable searches and seizures,shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue,but upon probable cause,supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched,and the persons or things to be seized.

#5 The parts needed here:No person shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself,nor be deprived of life,liberty,or property,without due process of law,nor shall private property be taken for public use,without just compensation.

That said ANY,Any road block IS illegal:mad:

Drywaller-If they pull over ALL diesel trucks for an inspection, they do not need a warrant.


Checkpoint-type stops and searches (as long as they limit racial profiling, etc.), are pretty much legal.
<!-- / message -->How do you figure that JOEG? Read above Bill of Rights Ammendment.Who says they are legal.ANY NAZI CHECKPOINT is illegal.But we are b.s.`d into believing they ARE legal.This is supposed to be FREE AMERICA,NOT old NAZI GERMANY!!
DRYWALLERI can see your point about checkpoints. Take for example sobriety checkpoints. When you pull into one the officers look for obvious signs of intoxications, ie. smell open or empty containers etc. If they have reason to believe one is or was drinking then they have the right to perform the proper test and search ones vehicle.
Now, the red fuel. Just because one drives a diesel does not make them a suspect. The fact that one drives a diesel is not probable cause. Therefor I do not believe they have the right, by law, to do a search.
Id bet that if one had the money and resources one could beat the charge.
What`s the difference between NAZI sobriety checkpoints and fuel check/inspection roadblocks.NOT A DANG THING!!IMHO!!!
One officer to another "I think he`s drunk."The other,"I think he has red dyed fuel in his truck! Let`s get him!" NO difference to me or do I need laser surgery to see clearly!!!
I`m not starting anything,no offense to anyone, just maybe giving some much needed info.Think about it for a moment,do it!Just a moment!
I believe we are unGodly taxed for everything,just so the ELITE can feed off of us and kick us to the curb when we`re broke!:mad:
Thanks for letting me be a part of DIESEL PLACE!!:ro)

Hey Surgeon, any chance that your Pro-gun? You sure do sound like it.
I am glad I am not alone on this one.

i am with the surgeon of steel ..... btw i am very pro-gun .... i guess that makes me pro - BUSH

[Hey Surgeon, any chance that your Pro-gun? You sure do sound like it.
I am glad I am not alone on this one.Let`s just say I`m NOT anti-gun):h

I have been running off road fuel for 80k miles using a B filter(stock is an A)without a problem.Im not registered commercial so I dont have to stop for DOT.If your not commercial and have a locked fuel cap I dont think they can make you open it.Like your trunk or glove compartment they can only ask and you can refuse.As far as not paying the fuel tax I dont feel bad at all!Its what this country was started from.Hell its the American way!Jon72, You my friend are absolutely correct,sir:exactly:
Get a locking cap.If you do get stopped for doing nothing wrong,I would have to say they need to get a warrant(remember Amendment 4)Tell them you`ll wait here until they get one.Figure on the officer not wanting to deal with it will probably tell you to get outa here.Bye now! Have a nice day,officer!):h
Believe me I`m no right/left wing radical,just someone that still believes in the Bill of Rights that we still have :ro)Baffle them with intelligence in a land of many morons.No offense to anyone here!!
Who was it??The infamous quote:" If you give up your freedom for security,you deserve neither freedom or security"
Would if eveyone used offroad fuel.Could you imagine the traffic backups at the Nazi/Communist checkpoints:eek: :muahaha:
See ya around Diesel Place:ro) :cool2:

The taxes help pay for the roads. If you use red fuel,its ok just don`t use the roads. Pay your shareI don`t know about that henryj.:eek: I`m on the north coast of Ohio,the roads are an absolute mess/minefields around here,every year!Seems to me the $$$ getting funeled into someone elses pockets:confused::rolleyes:

I bought a locking cap for my Dmax and for my wifes Grand Cherokee. Some S.O.B. has hit her rig up twice for free fuel.
I cant wait till I get asked for a sample of fuel. Ill let yall know how it goes, or not.
See-ya, Marco.

They don't make a locking cap for my suburban as I have tried to get one. Oh well guess I'm going to prison

Sorry to disagree with you Duramaximizer (and Im sure many on here), but the only BUSH I like is down at the "Y". Some say he is the lesser of 2 evils, but he is just as big a crook as all of them. (why was the extreme escallation of fuel prices never a topic last fall?.... couldnt be all the old texas money made off of oil and fuel). Regardless of party affiliation (Dem/Rep) the only thing the govt. is concerned with is self preservation, not making the constituents happy. And what makes we more peeved is the idiots who fall right in line with whatever govt. wants in the name of a false sence of security.........SHEEPLE!! It all makes me sick, what this country needs is another revolution.... Sorry to rant, just a big supporter of small govt.

You should all be more like us Canadians.
Pay your taxes.
Take it up the rear.
And stop whining so much.

I know a fellar that runs it in 2 different D-Max's and the dealler know's it and still repairs the trucks and says just don't get caught by the man. The Texas HP checked our ford once is all that I have herd of.
As the saying goes: :ro) :ro) DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS :ro) :ro)
BTW geno what kinda "herd" were you driving. Just kidding..

I looked this up here in Montana. For vehicles in the weight category of pickups, they need "probable cause" to check your fuel. It is illegal for them to stop you to check your fuel (not true for big rigs). Probable cause is defined as having no less than three legal affidavits, or the officer himself has to witness you putting the fuel into the tank. Fine is $100. By my calcs, If I were a lawbreaker, (I'm not so far, but with #2 at $2.60 I may become one soon) I'll come out $100 ahead if I don't get caught for five tanks.

Here are the minnesota laws for Dyed Fuel 296A.22 Nonpayment of tax; civil penalties.





Subdivision 1. Penalty for failure to pay tax, general
rule. Upon the failure of any person to pay any tax or fee
when due, a penalty of one percent per day for the first ten
days of delinquency shall accrue, and thereafter the tax, fees,
and penalty shall bear interest at the rate specified in section
270.75 (http://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/stats/270/75.html).



Subd. 2. Collection authority. Upon such a failure
to pay any tax or fees within the time provided by this chapter,
all taxes and fees imposed by this chapter shall become
immediately due and payable, and may be collected as provided in
chapter 270.



Subd. 3. Operating without license. If any person
operates as a distributor, special fuel dealer, bulk purchaser,
or motor carrier without first securing the license required
under this chapter, any tax or fee imposed by this chapter shall
become immediately due and payable. A penalty of 25 percent is
imposed upon the tax and fee due. The tax, fees, and penalty
shall bear interest at the rate specified in section 270.75 (http://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/stats/270/75.html).



Subd. 4. Unlawful use of dyed fuel. (a) If any dyed
fuel is sold or held for sale by a person for any use which the
person knows or has reason to know is not a nontaxable use of
the fuel; or if any dyed fuel is held for use or used in a
licensed motor vehicle or for any other use by a person for a
use other than a nontaxable use and the person knew, or had
reason to know, that the fuel was so dyed; or if a person
willfully alters, or attempts to alter, the strength or
composition of any dye or marking in any dyed fuel, then the
person shall pay a penalty in addition to the tax, if any.



(b) Except as provided in paragraph (c), the amount of
penalty under paragraph (a) for each act is the greater of
$1,000, or $10 for each gallon of dyed fuel involved.



(c) With regard to a multiple violation under paragraph
(a), the penalty shall be applied by increasing the amount in
paragraph (b) by the product of (1) such amount, and (2) the
number of prior penalties, if any, imposed by this section on
the person, or a related person, or any predecessor of the
person or related person.



(d) If a penalty is imposed under this subdivision on a
business entity, each officer, employee, or agent of the entity
who willfully participated in any act giving rise to the penalty
is jointly and severally liable with the entity for the penalty.



Subd. 5. Receiver appointed. In the event a suit is
instituted as provided in subdivision 2, the court shall, upon
application, appoint a receiver of the property and business of
the delinquent defendant for the purpose of impounding the same
as security for any judgment which has been or may be recovered.



Subd. 6. Sale prohibited under certain conditions.
No petroleum product shall be unloaded or sold by any person or
distributor whose tax and fees are the basis for collection
action under subdivision 2.



Subd. 7. Payment of penalties. The penalties imposed
by this section are collected and paid in the same manner as
taxes.



Subd. 8. Penalties are additional. The civil
penalties imposed by this section are in addition to the
criminal penalties imposed by this chapter.



HIST: 1998 c 299 s 22; 2000 c 490 art 13 s 16 :badidea:

Copyright 2004 by the Office of Revisor of Statutes, State of Minnesota.

Just heard that there is a portable sniffer that can be set up on a ramp to service plazas on the interstates or other expressways it can sniff some thing that is in the red dye. Thus giving them the need to inspect you fuel tanks. Was told that New York along with other states are buying these and plan to use them this year. Do not know true this is but the person is a NYDOT inspector.Also did you know there is still a tax on fuel to support the war effort (WW2) that is.

You should all be more like us Canadians.
Pay your taxes.
Take it up the rear.
And stop whining so much.
Something to be proud of?

We fought a Revolution because of Tax...and won! I am not saying another revolt is iminent, but what else keeps the politicos from running totally amok?!

mix it 75good/25dye...???some savings will be there...

Something to be proud of?

We fought a Revolution because of Tax...and won! I am not saying another revolt is iminent, but what else keeps the politicos from running totally amok?!
Carefully consider what the Tea Party actually accomplished ~ It protested taxation w/o representation. Long story short, we now have representation which could be another longish thread.

I say get a friggin locking fuel cap and demand a warrant when asked for a fuel sample. From what I understand law enforcement MUST setup shop and inspect ALL diesel rigs that come through. The only instances that I have heard of guys getting popped was at a local auction house. DOT would wait for the ranchers and farmers to come out of the auction house and ask for a sample of fuel. That screams "targeting"
I look forwar to the day I get asked. I will refuse refuse refuse. Then when I get arrested I will get me a good laywer and raise hell.
As far as 75% good 25% dyed, one gallon of dyed fuel is enough to tint a full tank of fuel. It would be tough to see the dye in a sample tube but it johnny law pulled a cup of it bet for sure youd get a ticket.
It only take a few gallons of dyed fuel to tint four thousand gallons of fuel. Trust me, Ive done it.