I am looking to get out of my unreliable powerstroke and into a dmax c4500. Both Ford and Dodge run 14+ quarts of oil. Is the dmax ok in a heavy duty situation only running 6?





Howard

How do you figure it only runs 6?


That's 4 less than any Dmax I'm aware of....http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley24.gif

The duramax is 10 quarts (in a 2500 and 3500 anyways).


Edit - Zeeb beat me to it!Edited by: Max Power

Doh. Must have misread it somewhere

The duramax is 10 quarts (in a 2500 and 3500 anyways).


Edit - Zeeb beat me to it!





HEH...HEH...HEH...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif


Take that Brown Sack...


I've got to revel on the rare occasion that happens Max...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif

My 03 C-4500 takes 15qts.... look real close on truck trader & truck paper and you will notice alot of them for sale really cheap. There is a reason....On mine I cant keep a set tires on the steer axle and had alot of electrical problems. Good luck on your hunt for a good truck.

Don't leave me hanging, pm with your phone number so can ask more questions.





Howard

Below are the chevy specs from the fleet pages


http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/mediumduty/proddesc.jsp?yea (http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/mediumduty/proddesc.jsp?year=2005&brandID=1&line=61&modelID=6 22&package=658&series=1&section=0&page=1#cat5) r=2005&brandID=1&line=61&modelID=622&package =658&series=1&section=0&page=1#cat5


It does say only six quarts for oil capacityhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif


<A =anchor name=subcat253>Duramax Diesel </A> - Duramax Diesel 6600
<UL>
<LI>Engine oil Cooler: integral in block
<LI>Cooling: 203 degrees F (95 degrees C) thermostat, 15 lbs. (6.8 kg) pressure cap, low coolant level light and alarm, surge tank and all-season coolant protected to -40 degrees F (-40 degrees C).
<LI>DEX-COOL: Long Life Coolant.
<LI>Drain Plug: Magnetic
<LI>Primary fuel filter: Full flow paper element (coalescing type)
<LI>Single full-flow, spin-on type engine oil filter, Oil System Capacity: 6.5 qt (6.2L) with filter, 6 qt (5.7L) without filter change </LI>[/list]

The 6.2 old GM diesel and 5.7 old 350 gas have been gone a long time.


The spec needs some updating.


I like these tranny specs



<TABLE borderColor=#999999 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="95%" border=1>
<T>
<TR>
<TD =contentattrib>M74 (http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/mediumduty/proddesc.jsp?year=2005&amp;brandID=1&amp;line=61&amp;modelID=6 22&amp;package=658&amp;series=1&amp;section=0&amp;page=1#)</TD>
<TD =contentbottom>Allison 1000 Series - with 0.71 overdrive. Torque Rating: 520 lb-ft (705 N-m). Column shift. Base model does not include power take-off gear. To include PTO gear please order with RPO "PTO". Includes transmission-oil cooler located inside radiator. With Option PTX, the truck will be equipped with the Allison 1000HS Highway Series transmission. When ordered with option PTO, the truck will be equipped with the Allison 1000RDS Rugged Duty Series transmission.
</TD></TR></T></TABLE>


So what is a rugged duty series?

Hey Tim,


When I saw that I thought about the other two engines as well, but if one converts quarts to liters, that's what you get...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif


As for the trans stuff, I think that's referring to the new Vocational Series transmissions. I can't seem to find anything definitive on the availability of those transmissions, other than Allison's web site seems to suggest they'll be in the trucks starting Jan. '05.

I like these tranny specs



<TABLE borderColor=#999999 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="95%" border=1><T>
<T>
<TR>
<TD ="contentattrib">M74 (http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/mediumduty/proddesc.jsp?year=2005&amp;brandID=1&amp;line=61&amp;modelID=6 22&amp;package=658&amp;series=1&amp;section=0&amp;page=1#)</TD>
<TD ="contentbottom">Allison 1000 Series - with 0.71 overdrive. Torque Rating: 520 lb-ft (705 N-m). Column shift. Base model does not include power take-off gear. To include PTO gear please order with RPO "PTO". Includes transmission-oil cooler located inside radiator. With Option PTX, the truck will be equipped with the Allison 1000HS Highway Series transmission. When ordered with option PTO, the truck will be equipped with the Allison 1000RDS Rugged Duty Series transmission.
</TD></TR></T></T></TABLE>


So what is a rugged duty series?





I don't know changes they make internally, but it is stated that the 1000RDS is REQUIRED for warranty to be intact snowplowing with the medium dutieshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif


Yes and if you convert the quarts to liters, I believe they come out to that in literes?





Howard

Below are the chevy specs from the fleet pages


http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/mediumduty/proddesc.jsp?yea r=2005&amp;brandID=1&amp;line=61&amp;modelID=622&amp;package =658&amp;series=1&amp;section=0&amp;page=1#cat5 (http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/mediumduty/proddesc.jsp?year=2005&amp;brandID=1&amp;line=61&amp;modelID=6 22&amp;package=658&amp;series=1&amp;section=0&amp;page=1#cat5)


It does say only six quarts for oil capacityhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif


<A name=subcat253 ="anchor">Duramax Diesel </A> - Duramax Diesel 6600





Didn't know they made a 6.2 or 5.7 DURAMAX.Looks like a big mistake in the spec's.
<UL>
<LI>Engine oil Cooler: integral in block
<LI>Cooling: 203 degrees F (95 degrees C) thermostat, 15 lbs. (6.8 kg) pressure cap, low coolant level light and alarm, surge tank and all-season coolant protected to -40 degrees F (-40 degrees C).
<LI>DEX-COOL: Long Life Coolant.
<LI>Drain Plug: Magnetic
<LI>Primary fuel filter: Full flow paper element (coalescing type)
<LI>Single full-flow, spin-on type engine oil filter, Oil System Capacity: 6.5 qt (6.2L) with filter, 6 qt (5.7L) without filter change </LI>[/list]

You are really funny!

A quart is 0.94635 liters - therefore 6.5 qt = 6.151275 liters and 6 qt
= 5.6781 liters. That happens if you count all your life in some kind
of confusing system and now you are confronted to the metric system.

I guess its about time that this country really changes to metric. I am
happy that GM did realize that already and I don't need new standard
tools for the Dmax...

I haven't had any tire issues on my 04.5 c4500 yet but only have 10K.
The only issue so far is a rough idle and my marker light defeat switch
doesn't work but I think that is due to incorrect wiring by Monroe.
What I like about the C4500 is a two year unlimited mileage bumper to
bumper warranty. When you drive 140K miles a year up and down the
Alaska Highway, this looks real good!!!

http://users.tc3net.com/jbrown/MVC-014S.JPGNo problems here on our C-4500 with the front tires.Only have 7K on it though....JB. Edited by: 4500/LLY

Woohoo! I bought a c5500 4x4 152" Wheelbase... on Monda. Duramax, allison, snow plow prep, 150amp alternator, ac, remote mirros, uplevel appearance and a few other niceties.

I just changed my oil in my DMAX the other night and I put in about 10 quarts.

Don't leave me hanging, pm with your phone number so can ask more questions.





Howard











You got a PM sorry for not responding sooner I just got back from being out of town. Give me a call at the office 8:00am-5:00pm I'll be glad to talk to you.