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: 2 stroke oil for lubricity?


JohnnyO
09-30-2004, 06:18 AM
With all our concern about increasing fuel lubricity is there any reason why we cant add a few ozs of 2-stroke oil to each tank? would it clog anything? Anyone currently doing it?
Thanks!

a64pilot
09-30-2004, 07:28 AM
I've heard of a few people doing it. I don't. I think you would be better served using an additive specifically made for Diesel.

Max Owner
09-30-2004, 07:23 PM
Someone I ran into a bunch of years ago was adding transmission fluid to his Fhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley35.gifd.
But it was an older one. I'm sure it will create some bad
emmissions. I personally would run nothing, than the oil.

Max Owner
09-30-2004, 07:24 PM
Wouldn't the diesel fuel break down the oil? Kinda making it uneffective?

marky
09-30-2004, 07:38 PM
I've heard of a few people doing it. I don't. I think you would be better served using an additive specifically made for Diesel.


Effectiveness seems to be a big unknown. It seems like cost would be the only up side to two cycle oil. However with the current cost of diesel, the additive is getting to be a smaller and smaller percentage of the cost per gal.

a64pilot
10-01-2004, 07:16 AM
Someone I ran into a bunch of years ago was adding transmission fluid to his Fhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley35.gifd. But it was an older one. I'm sure it will create some bad emmissions. I personally would run nothing, than the oil.


USED to do it all of the time on my VW, Mercedes and still do on farm equipment. the reason is that tranny fluid is high in detergents, (or so I'm told) and keeps the injectors clean of varnish. You could tell on the older engines when they were getting dirty. The engine would pick up an irregular knock and shake at idle as if it had a miss. One quart or so of tranny fluid per tank of fuel would clear it right up. Now I wouldn't do it on my Dmax, but it did work well on the older engines.

Jason S
10-01-2004, 08:29 AM
Have poured trany fluid down the carb of an old beater car I had one time to clear the carbon out of it. Man ran rough for a little while but worked good.


Wouldn't think of doing it to a new diesel rig I have just invested 40-50K in and then have something go wrong and have GM/Dodge/Ford void out the warrenty claim because I did something stupid not called for in the manual.


Run a cleaner/injector lube. Its $5 a bottle 1/2 bottle a fill up. Spend that much money on a truck what does a little bit more a fill up hurt.

jbplock
10-01-2004, 06:12 PM
Jason,


What brand cleaner/injector lube are you using?

letsgo
10-02-2004, 10:14 AM
HAW!!! JUST PUT TRANSMITTION FLUID IN THE TANK and save some money or you could spend some money to save a lot and buy proper additive, home remedies are not the way to go with a $40,000 truck,


good luck

NWDmax
12-12-2004, 06:32 PM
Jason,


What brand cleaner/injector lube are you using?

Well?

diesel66
12-13-2004, 02:29 AM
Power Service and only Power Service, but i seem to be alone on this one. Maybe it's only popular in this region(MN)?

Kartattack
12-13-2004, 07:27 AM
It's made here in Texas and is at all of the truck stops, Wal-Mart, etc. down here. I use it about half the time because that's all I can readily find.

Norske
12-13-2004, 08:11 AM
I do not think regular oil is the type of "lubricant" that this modern injection system needs to keep it functioning correctly. It is more complicated than that.

Bill Gisse
12-13-2004, 08:48 AM
[QUOTE=jbplock]Jason,


What brand cleaner/injector lube are you using?[/QUOTE



Some of the parts houses are carrrying "DELCO" brand dieel injector cleaner, in fact two different kinds, same brand.

02dmax
12-13-2004, 09:01 AM
Power Service because as Diesel66 said; it is available here :o

Black Max
12-13-2004, 09:39 AM
I've been using Power Service also; Diesel Kleen in the summer, and Diesel Supplement during the cold months. If I shop the sales, I can get the Supplement for $8 @ 3 qt bottle. Maybe it's just a "feel good" thing, but I'm hoping it helps. It came highly recommended by the owner of the local Mobil station where I fuel. I'd have to know more about the effects of using the 2 cycle oil before I'd pour it in my tank, although I can't see where it would hurt.

JohnnyO
12-13-2004, 05:40 PM
I am using Stanadyne Performance Formula most of the time or Shell DFA if I can find it in the store.

JDTRIP
12-13-2004, 05:52 PM
Rotella DFA for 50,000mi.

BigRedD/A
12-13-2004, 05:56 PM
diesel66 I live here in mn. and i use stanedyne performance formula. you can pick it up at just about any injector shop. BigRedD/A

modified
12-16-2004, 10:29 AM
With all our concern about increasing fuel lubricity is there any reason why we cant add a few ozs of 2-stroke oil to each tank? would it clog anything? Anyone currently doing it?
Thanks!I remembered one of Georges posts below. He is one of our experts. Be sure to read #13 and #16.

http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1449&page=1&pp=10 (http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1449&page=1&pp=10)

Fred G
12-16-2004, 11:58 AM
I usually run Standadyne Perf Formula, am now running PowerService "winter" blend. Have also used Delo injector cleaner. Standadyne is the only one that is GM-approved. It is a religion with me, I run additive in every tank. Increasing cetane seems to help maintain my MPG in the winter months.

Henryf
12-16-2004, 08:12 PM
Johnnyo, For what it is worth I have used 2 cycle oil in a dodge cummins for 70000 miles. Never had any problems,the v44 injector pump is a weak link and I think the extra lubes had to help. I have now traded for Duramax and will use it. Just hope the Cat .doesn`t plug up. Two stroke oil is made to burn,and is used in injected engines at up to 100 to one. Love this NEW TRUCK.

Lennox69
12-21-2004, 06:53 PM
I agree wuth HenryF...

ktm520
12-22-2004, 07:20 AM
what about the high pressure foaming that George mentioned in that link in post #20? do you all think that it is really an issure? that would be the only problem that i would see with running 2-smoke oil in the fuel.

henryf - how high was the fuel pressure in that cummins you had? i don't know much about the dodges.

Henryf
12-22-2004, 12:08 PM
I really don`t know what thr pressures were. It was a 98.5 24 valve,one of the first ones. Lift pump pressure was around 14 lbs idle and 10lbs wide open throttle. Good running truck until I was forced into a reflash, mpg dropped by 3mpgs,and some loss of power. Plug & play fixed that.

dmax lover
12-22-2004, 01:17 PM
It takes very little lubricity additive to provide the protection needed. If you purchase stanadyne lubricity additive - it costs 20% less than "performance formula" and treats twice as much fuel. One pint treats 120 gallons. It's more cost effective to use than two stroke oil and probably works a helluva lot better too - so why mess with anything else?

fwiw - I buy mine from usdieselparts.com;

- jeff