Someone sure got lucky!


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7924309068&ssPage Name=STRK:MEWA:IT

60 to 150 HP...... is that a hot Juice?

a one day auction from a guy with no feedback...hmmm

a one day auction from a guy with no feedback...hmmm


That might be $305 thrown right out the window!!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif

I'd rather spend a little more and buy from a sponcer here, like J/K or something. ............ thinking about it, that's exactly what I've done. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif





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Perhaps it was just for the box ...cardboard box and nothing inside. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Well we shall see if it was a good deal....http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

The thing with ebay is that the seller can also be the buyer. Since the purchaser's User ID is kept private, I bet this is what happened.

View seller's other items (http://cgi6.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=stroker 96&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50)


Check this guy out he has some good prices and quick to deal with.


I just put my 135 in this past Friday WOW what power. I run it on 90 HP then Sat morning I just had to go ahead and put it on the 135HP to see the difference, It is alot. I dropped it back down to the 90Hp and still happy. Just a plug for VanEdited by: BUCKSHOTjr

The thing with ebay is that the seller can also be the buyer. Since the purchaser's User ID is kept private, I bet this is what happened.


Ah, somehow I don't think that is what happened...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clown.gif

Hint..hint..hint...

Well the "WHAT A DEAL" turned out to be WHAT A HOAX!!!! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif


After paying for the auction using paypal and american express (to cover my a$$) I have tried to contact this person and having not received product and contacting ebay and paypal have filed a fraud report against this person.


Just so you know, this person is supposedly a member here and his ebay name is "smokey_burn_out".... All his auctions are private bidder listed and he will not respond to all emails sent. When he does he lies and says what you want to hear. Do not purchase from him and if you have an encounter with him report it to Ebay, Paypal and anyone else you know purchasing items from ebay. His paypal company is for a business in Miami and he is using 2 different names, one for selling on ebay and one for his paypal account. This person is a liar and a thief.......


This was my own fault and those deals that are too good to be true usually are. I thought that this person being a member here would keep something like this from happening. Just do yourself a favor and buyer beware..... Please tell anyone you know....

Sorry to hear that. It's hard to trust Ebay due to the anonymous nature of it.


For what it's worth, I've sold and bought about $50,000 worth of stuff on Ebay with only minor problems. Highest was 17K.


Tips:


Get a WORK phone number and talk to the guy. Give him yours. Jobs are harder to get than cellphones.


If something is "too good to be true", WATCH OUT. It probably is.


Never send money to an anonymous target. Paypal, PO boxes, etc, need to be backed up with solid contact info. Never send a money order or cashier's check.

Ya I used paypal and Amex, so I am covered. I got a number and it was to an answering machine. Guy has no concept of answering emails and when he does, they contradict the ones prior. I hate dealing with scum like this. I know they are out there and I somehow seem to find them...

First off you should of found out WHO he was here as we do not need any alleged crooks hanging around here.


If anyone is shafted here by a member on a private sale through the DieselPlace pages ,that cannot be resolved, please bring it to a staff members attention.





Mac Edited by: Mackin

Well when I find out who he really is then I will post his name... I know of a few other people who saw the post before it was either removed or deleted... I have one witness who saw it. So when I know more I will post it... Thanks Mac....

Not so much the zero feedback, but I think that little yellow dude next to the zeromeans he recently changed his ebay handle. That to me is always a telltale. Why would someone change their handle on ebay if they already had a good rep?

Marc

Actually I think it means that he just signed up. I usually try to give those people the benefit of the doubt as we all had to start somewhere on ebay... I just think this was a bad way to do it, personally...

Here was another one http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7925141778) ;item=7925141778

Post everything you can! Run to the other sites and fill them in as well. I know several folks that have been hooked...... they all got their money back.........it just took time and effort. Ebay seems to be a good thing. I don't know how much I've spent total, wife uses my account, but I've busted the 18k single purchase mark without a problem. It's not the venue, it the vendor.





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Here was another one http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7925141778) ; ;item=7925141778





What was the deal with that one? I see nothing wrong with that seller, nice feedback and phone numbers listed...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif

UPDATE!!!


Well I got an email from this guy, he said he plans on sending my money back... Will keep everyone posted on this matter. Still trying to find out for sure who or whom these people are.... I just hope that I am the only one he has done this too and no one else gets burned this way... Edited by: GMC2500HD

Here was another one http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7925141778) ; ; ;item=7925141778





What was the deal with that one? I see nothing wrong with that seller, nice feedback and phone numbers listed...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif





I meant in price, isn't $299 for a power pup (the 150hp version) a good deal?

Here was another one http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7925141778) ; ; ; ;item=7925141778





What was the deal with that one? I see nothing wrong with that seller, nice feedback and phone numbers listed...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif





I meant in price, isn't $299 for a power pup (the 150hp version) a good deal?





I bought my powerpup from that seller and was treated great. The 150
tune is not unlocked , even though his ad makes it seem like it is.



But they shipped fast and had the best price i could find on my tuner. I was impressedhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif

Here was another one http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7925141778) ; ; ; ; ;item=7925141778





What was the deal with that one? I see nothing wrong with that seller, nice feedback and phone numbers listed...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif





I meant in price, isn't $299 for a power pup (the 150hp version) a good deal?





I bought my powerpup from that seller and was treated great. The 150 tune is not unlocked , even though his ad makes it seem like it is.

But they shipped fast and had the best price i could find on my tuner. I was impressedhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif



Must be false advertisement, I even emailed him and he never answered me completely. Oh well still a good deal I think.

I hope members from here aren't scammers on ebay. I love this site it has helped alot. I suggest scammers be blackballed and exposed.

I know that when you purchase a Bully Dog programmer you have the option to pay the extra money to unlock the 150hp tune. They advertise it on all the pages but you still have to pay for it.

I hope members from here aren't scammers on ebay. I love this site it has helped alot. I suggest scammers be blackballed and exposed.


I Agree 100% ........ hurt them! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley15.gif





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GMC2500HD


Sorry to hear about your misfortune. I sincerely hope you get reimbursed.


I must say that I fell for an Edge ad that looked VERY similar to the one you posted. Thankfully (i guess) I was outbid:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33597&item=7926487 658&rd=1) ;category=33597&item=7926487658&rd=1


Another that may or may not be fishy:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33597&item=7924307 796&rd=1) ;category=33597&item=7924307796&rd=1

WOW!!!! CSTONE... thanks man you have just pointed something out to me.... Amazing how this works out...


STAY AWAY FROM "SMOKEY_BURN_OUT" AND "BOSS_BIGGIS" ON EBAY..... BOSS BIGGIS IS WHO I GOT THE EMAILS FROM WHICH IS W5342@AOL.COM..... AND SMOKEY_BURN_OUT USES THE EMAIL ADDRESS ARMOEDST4R@AOL.COM ..... IF ANYONE KNOWS OR CAN FIND OUT WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE FOR SURE, WE ALL NEED TO KNOW SO WE CAN BLACKBALL THEM AND MAKE PEOPLE AWARE...... I WILL POST MORE INFO AS I FIND IT......

UPDATE!!!


The two ebay thiefs are Arthur Fenring, and Michael Aviles.... If you know of them stay away from them... This has been CONFIRMED by 3 sources.... Just got the email back....

Word to the wise.........


We have supporting vendors here.........yeah ya might pay a little more, but you'll get what you paid for.........


Support the people that support all of us in one way or another.......


Sometimes we have all stepped over dollars to pick up pennies http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif





Thttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gifNY

You said it Tony! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif

<DIV>well i must say they who cheat should be blackballed, and dealt with </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> as for the tunners i still have two brand new powerpups in the box for 300 dollarshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif</DIV>

<DIV>well i must say they who cheat should be blackballed, and dealt with </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> as for the tunners i still have two brand new powerpups in the box for 300 dollarshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif</DIV>





Didn't anyone tell u that u can't stack 3 of the SAME tuners http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/hihi.gif

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733 Amsterdam Ave,
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Edited by: BUCKSHOTjr

Thanks for the info, Paypal and ebay are working together on this and my money should be returned in 7-10 days. I should have known this was a bad idea from the start but sometimes it is hard to pass up a good deal, but when it turns out to be something that is this much trouble it is not worth it...

2500 CALL BRYCE AT EDGE 1-888360-EDGE HE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS

GMC2500HD



Look familiar?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;rd=1&amp;item=7927849771&amp;ssPage Name=STRK:MEWA:IT) ; ; ;rd=1&amp;item=7927849771&amp;ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;rd=1&amp;item=7927849875&amp;ssPage Name=STRK:MEWA:IT) ; ; ;rd=1&amp;item=7927849875&amp;ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp; ;rd=1&amp;item=7927849954&amp;ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT ) ; ; ;rd=1&amp;item=7927849954&amp;ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT


If you do digging, the seller is: Michael Aviles in MIAMI, FL! Apparently he gets around.


On Edit: How interesting! He's gone now.


http://feedback.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFee (http://feedback.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&amp;userid=aaron_wilkenson&amp; item=7927849954&amp;iid=7927849954&amp;frompage=0&amp;fromasq= 1) dback&amp;userid=aaron_wilkenson&amp;item=7927849954&amp;iid =7927849954&amp;frompage=0&amp;fromasq=1


If you're wondering, I know one of the winners http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif of the above auctions...Edited by: CStone

He is using the same format just different user names and getting away with it. Sorry that happened to you as well, just glad you are not out any money.... But I think in time he will get his... http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif

Well, he's been reported to the EBay authorities in all three account names. I guess we'll see if EBay police are paper tigers.


Information and data such as that shared in this thread are one of the main reasons I read and respect this forum. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Rock On.gif Keep it up, guys and gals.

ok. i am from bully dog. i want you all to know what is being done. first of all we do have a MAP(minimum advertised price) policy. if anyone is selling below this level i would be very leary and run away. the policy states nobody can advertise at more than 10% below retail list. ebay pricing is considered advertising, either the buy it now or the reserve must be at least that price. secondly those that abuse this will be getting zapped off of ebay in the near future, if the practice continues bully dog will pull it's trademark off of ebay completely. and everybody loses. if you see anyone advertising below MAP either on ebay or on any web site, or paper ads please email info@bullydog.com. i appreciate all of you, thx. steve

<DIV>well i must say they who cheat should be blackballed, and dealt with </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> as for the tunners i still have two brand new powerpups in the box for 300 dollarshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif</DIV>





IF THAT'S $300.00 FOR BOTH I WILL BUY THEM

Well just an update as to what is going on here.


I contacted Ebay and Paypal. They were able to recover $12.85 of my money at this time. I was thinking I would get more but they said that was all that was in the account of the seller. I have contacted American Express and they are going to cover the charge and fight it out with Ebay/Paypal on my behalf. So in the long run I will be covered but Ebay/Paypal will not be happy about it because they will not get their money unless they collect from the fraudulent seller...


The sellers are Arthur Fenring and Michael Aviles and Aaron Wilkenson. So beware of those sellers on ebay. They use many different accounts and are located in Miami and other lower Florida cities. They use the company name of J C B Halifax in Miami...

Another Update.....


Well now the FBI and American Express are involved completely. I talked to the FBI and they are going after this, so they say and we keep me posted as to the outcome. American Express is filing criminal charges and will also let me know the outcome. I am not being charged any money for this and the money that was collected will be credited to my account... Guess this guy picked the wrong person to mess with....http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif

GMC2500HD,



All I gotta say is this:





<font style="font-weight: bold;" size="7">HELL YEAH!

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Well I am just not going to stand by and let this guy continue to do this. He is breaking the law and needs to be stopped. I know there is not a whole lot I can do but, I can bring the heat down on him and at least make him sweat some... Make him think twice about doing this again...

Skeeter Bass Boat on eBay brand new (2004 never been in water) with 225 efi merc. said he could not register it in G.B. so he has to get rid of it for $8900 USD and he would pay freight. But he wanted 1/2 down wired to him via Western Union. Told him I would put money in Escrow .com (recommended by eBay) is only way I would do this. Supprise---- boat not on eBay any longer an no reply from him. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

Yup, that is how they get you. They want you to wire money and then they can pick it up and not be traced.. That happens all the time...

If that happens all the time then why is Ebay such a lucritive business?


Can't they deny money orders or wire methods on there site?


It makes honest people loose out on sells with trusting people because they open it up to a$$holes like this.

Bullydog Pups on eBay starting at $50.00

If that happens all the time then why is Ebay
such a lucritive business?


Can't they deny money orders or wire methods on there site?


It makes honest people loose out on sells with trusting people
because they open it up to a$$holes like this.


Simple, eBay doen't give a crap about any thing but Money. Don't
ever buy on eBay without a Credit Card. I almost got screwed big
time when I bought something that didn't work. eBay and Pay Pal did
nothing...Visa put a hold on the charge for 30 days giving the
dirtbag time to refund my money. When it didn't happen, they
credited my account and went after him.
I've also been screwed as a seller. A guy won an auction of mine and
never even contaced me,. I still had to pay the listing fees and they
did nothing, nothing but make money that is.

First off never buy from someone with no history. The chance s of a
good deal come from people with at least a few good feedbacks.



I purchased a train horn from a zero feedback individual a couple of weeks ago.



When I won I emailed and told them I would only pay for shipping. Once
I recieved the item I would pay the balance. I have 59 transactions and
she had none. She agreed. The balance was $251. I recieved the horn. It
was junk. Manifold was cracked and the horns were not correct for the
model. I emailed and offered to send them back for $50 (my shipping and
to ship back) I also offered as an alternative to pay $100. She took
the $100. I got a good deal. (It's an old horn)



You just have to be wise.

Hoot gonna scare hell outa trains wit all dim hornshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

A buddy of mine did the western uniun thing for $1000.. Got screwed.. After they got their money, they wouldn't reply.. Ebay got involved and so did the FBI... No money has ever returned to his pocket.....

HOOT WHAT KIND OF HORNS WERE THEY I HAV NATHAN P 5 CHIMES